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    Quote Originally Posted by ben_b View Post
    So we can't question any team tactics or players because we're supporting the manager, isn't the point of the forum to discuss different opinions.

    We have to agree with Hughton that Figuerido playing 80% of the games since he's took over has been a good idea?

    A lot of us are sick of the recruitment going on at Forest and this just looks like another similar signing, if you are happy with that Gandalf then fair enough.


    I have questioned Hughton, I have questioned him in this very thread... but the point is very valid. If you believe Hughton is the right man, then how can you write off Gosling as a signing? Zero consistency but hey ho.

    And still recruitment gets bashed... if this is a Hughton signing, and everything points to it being so (unless Modesto has been watching season highlights from about 5 years ago), it will be his third signing. You are sick of signing the likes of Knockaert and the Croat on loan?


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    Is this a Hughton signing, Brazil signing or a Modesto? Saying that Hughton has final day by all accounts so if he signs Hughton surely okayed it?

    Uninspiring signing and his injury record is poor. Hey Ho let’s see how he gets on. Hughton looks like he wants to rebuild the midfield. Who are the 2 that miss out for krovinonic and Gosling if it happens?


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    Quote Originally Posted by EmmersonForest4 View Post
    Is this a Hughton signing, Brazil signing or a Modesto? Saying that Hughton has final day by all accounts so if he signs Hughton surely okayed it?

    Uninspiring signing and his injury record is poor. Hey Ho letís see how he gets on. Hughton looks like he wants to rebuild the midfield. Who are the 2 that miss out for krovinonic and Gosling if it happens?
    Hughton choice according to Nixon who broke the story.


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    So if we safely assume this is a Hughton choice, and those from recruitment/above Hughton say no, who do we piss blood at?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
    Won't be the last under the current ownership either. We add at least one every window without fail. Usually with the same results too.

    I can forgive the club for making mistakes, but it really annoys me when they don't learn from them.
    If the club are leaving this window to Hughton, which seems likely given the targets and only addition so far, does that not signify they have learnt? It's just that Hughton is also adding players you don't want, in which case would you rather the club tell him no? Genuine question, I'm not being snarky because this is exactly the reason I'd rather a DoF oversee recruitment but I know others think the manager should have the absolute power.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheRed View Post
    So if we safely assume this is a Hughton choice, and those from recruitment/above Hughton say no, who do we piss blood at?


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    At Hughton and quite rightly so if it dosen’t work out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheRed View Post


    I have questioned Hughton, I have questioned him in this very thread... but the point is very valid. If you believe Hughton is the right man, then how can you write off Gosling as a signing? Zero consistency but hey ho.

    And still recruitment gets bashed... if this is a Hughton signing, and everything points to it being so (unless Modesto has been watching season highlights from about 5 years ago), it will be his third signing. You are sick of signing the likes of Knockaert and the Croat on loan?
    I Agree.

    It is possible to trust the manager to get it right eventually even if you loathe the way he's setting us up to play at the moment. If that's the case then we have to trust him that this signing will add to the squad in a positive way and hopefully enable us to start playing, well, more positively.

    Have to give Gosling a chance if we sign him.


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    Great posts Heff and Erik, exactly the points I am trying to get across.

    If you believe Hughton is the guy, you have to let him bring in his players and if he fails, the buck stops with him and the ability of his team to identify and coach talent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    If the club are leaving this window to Hughton, which seems likely given the targets and only addition so far, does that not signify they have learnt? It's just that Hughton is also adding players you don't want, in which case would you rather the club tell him no? Genuine question, I'm not being snarky because this is exactly the reason I'd rather a DoF oversee recruitment but I know others think the manager should have the absolute power.
    I'd be fine if the club are going to commit to sticking with Hughton, but history shows that they probably won't.

    Given that we never seem to stick with a manager long, I agree that the DoF approach makes more sense.

    If recent talk in the press is to be believed, we have the current manager, Modesto and Brazil all with their own list of players, as well as agents offering players to the club on top of that. If we assume Anigo also had his own ideas, that's potentially five approaches to signing players. If that's true, then there's no wonder our transfer policy is so messy. Too many cooks IMO.


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    Hughton is setting us up to be resolute and not concede. Either draw 0-0 or win 1-0 ideally

    It isnít going to pretty yet. Heís firefighting

    If most of us think a lot of our players are shit then you can bet Hughton is thinking the same

    Some folk in this forum need to get some perspective and moan about things that need moaning about not how we donít take the cup seriously etc etc


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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheRed View Post

    You are sick of signing the likes of Knockaert and the Croat on loan?

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    Knockaert and Gosling yes, interested to see how the Croat gets on. Im willing to give any signing a chance, but as i was sceptical about us selling Silva and replacing with Arter, im not optimistic about Gosling either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    If the club are leaving this window to Hughton, which seems likely given the targets and only addition so far, does that not signify they have learnt? It's just that Hughton is also adding players you don't want, in which case would you rather the club tell him no? Genuine question, I'm not being snarky because this is exactly the reason I'd rather a DoF oversee recruitment but I know others think the manager should have the absolute power.
    This is what I have been saying

    Finally they look like they are currently learning there big lesson. The is real life not a computer game. The season is spread over months not by a click of a button

    Recruitment needs to change and it looks, just that it maybe changing

    For the better or worse Is yet to be seen


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest ash View Post
    Some folk in this forum need to get some perspective and moan about things that need moaning about not how we donít take the cup seriously etc etc
    Iíve been moaning about the frankly shite state of the coffee at the WFCG for the best part of a decade.

    And in that time, Forest - under three different owners - have completely failed to do anything at all about that.

    All I want is a decent cup of coffee.

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    ĄDon't forget you're alive. 'Cause sometimes when you walk around the city and you're in a bad mood, you can think, hey, wait a minute, we're alive! We don't know what the next second will bring and what a fantastic thing this is. This can get easily forgotten in the routine of life, and that's something I'm trying to bring to my attention at all times. Don't forget you're alive. We're not dead, you know. This is the greatest thing.Ē

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    It's a loan till the end of the season at the moment, we have 3 injured midfeilders, 1 that overweight so will take a while to get fit, Bach that maybe good but may not be. It's a short term loan move to fill a gap, what exactly is there to complain about?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Iíve been moaning about the frankly shite state of the coffee at the WFCG for the best part of a decade.

    And in that time, Forest - under three different owners - have completely failed to do anything at all about that.

    All I want is a decent cup of coffee.
    Hahahaha


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry1982 View Post
    It's a loan till the end of the season at the moment, we have 3 injured midfeilders, 1 that overweight so will take a while to get fit, Bach that maybe good but may not be. It's a short term loan move to fill a gap, what exactly is there to complain about?
    My point entirely


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    I'm just hoping he doesn't turn out to be another lame duck.


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    We need to put into perspective that this window's first priority is signing players to keep us up.

    Given that our midfield is an absolute mess currently due to injuries, form, fitness & shitness, we do need someone in there this window. If not a couple.

    And as one Bournmouth fan says.......

    I think Eddie once said that if he was climbing Everest he'd want Dan alongside him....pretty much sums him up....fantastic character and a fantastic player for us but these box to box midfielders don't last long unless they can adapt their game to a deeper role....don't think Dan has that in his locker tbh.


    Chracter, effort & reliability are very much key to helping keep teams in our position up. Whether he'll be good enough for a promotion push next season if we stay up is another matter, but we're desperate for players who don't let their heads drop, and give it 100% all game.


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    I got him confused with John Gosling.

    (Really obscure reference that only I got)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
    I'd be fine if the club are going to commit to sticking with Hughton, but history shows that they probably won't.

    Given that we never seem to stick with a manager long, I agree that the DoF approach makes more sense.

    If recent talk in the press is to be believed, we have the current manager, Modesto and Brazil all with their own list of players, as well as agents offering players to the club on top of that. If we assume Anigo also had his own ideas, that's potentially five approaches to signing players. If that's true, then there's no wonder our transfer policy is so messy. Too many cocks IMO.
    Fixed that for you


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    More chance of Ray Gosling.


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    Talk to me, Goose.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheRed View Post
    No?

    When managing a team, you evaluate the talent you have and their skill sets, then you put them in a system to be successful. Howís that initial evaluation any different?

    Why do we trust Hughton to be selecting the right players on a match day? Why do we trust his evaluation of players we let go?

    This isnít aimed at anyone in particular, but in the Hughton thread people keep saying trust the process, he has a proven track record of success etc. If you have absolute faith in his ability to manage, coach and lead this team, you have to trust his ability to evaluate the team.

    And we have tried the route of letting someone else deal with transfers and that has been as popular as a red headed step child.
    The evaluation is different because one is based upon day-to-day involvement, on the training pitch/in the dressing room, etc. The other is from a distance, based on scouting, analysis, etc. Plus how much time has a manager/head coach got to go & watch potential targets?

    I'm also totally against the notion of a manager bringing in his 'own players'. The club should have an overarching 'DNA' that dictates the way we play & the types of coaches/players we recruit. However we dont, so we'll end up with a new manager splurging out on a raft of new signings every other transfer window.


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    Not lower league enough, not young enough and not scouted by some magical transfer panel enough for Nottingham Forest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    Not lower league enough, not young enough and not scouted by some magical transfer panel enough for Nottingham Forest.
    Those were the days.


 

 

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