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    I feel like Iíve reached a tipping point in this relationship.

    Iíve loved Nottingham Forest with all my heart for as long as I can remember. Almost 40 years. My love has never faltered for one minute. Even when the relationship has been tested. When they spent every penny that we couldnít afford, under David Platt. When they failed to perform under Colin Calderwood. When they were an absolute embarrassment under Megson. My love never faltered, not even for one minute. Yes I got angry. Yes I shouted. But that anger came from a place of love. Because I cared.

    But now. All I have is indifference. I have fallen out of love. And I donít know if this can be fixed. I donít know if I even want to fix it.


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    Sounds like you need Billy Swan




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    I'm the same even though I'm not quite 30 yet. Barely watched us this season, check the results at 5 o'clock see we've lost, check the table see we've slipped further down and just shrug. I don't really care if we get relegated, I don't really care if Joe Worrall is sold tomorrow, I don't really care if Hughton gets sacked tonight, I think the massive bottle job at the end of last season coupled with no supporters and the fact life in general is just boring as fuck at the moment has killed it for me.


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    We have been here before with a shit, poor team. It is probably partly an age thing but for me it is definitely made worse with no fans as the spectacle isn’t worth watching. Also we can’t go anyway so you lose interest. I have barely watched owt this season. Sky wouldn’t offer me a deal for sports so I swanned off. Best think I ever did. Wouldn’t have it back now for free.


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    I recommend having an affair with a foreigner who shows significantly more passion, application, entertainment and who offers much more than inevitably letting you down every single year.

    ĄI believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialismď

    ĄDon't forget you're alive. 'Cause sometimes when you walk around the city and you're in a bad mood, you can think, hey, wait a minute, we're alive! We don't know what the next second will bring and what a fantastic thing this is. This can get easily forgotten in the routine of life, and that's something I'm trying to bring to my attention at all times. Don't forget you're alive. We're not dead, you know. This is the greatest thing.Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by congo_red View Post
    I feel like Iíve reached a tipping point in this relationship.

    Iíve loved Nottingham Forest with all my heart for as long as I can remember. Almost 40 years. My love has never faltered for one minute. Even when the relationship has been tested. When they spent every penny that we couldnít afford, under David Platt. When they failed to perform under Colin Calderwood. When they were an absolute embarrassment under Megson. My love never faltered, not even for one minute. Yes I got angry. Yes I shouted. But that anger came from a place of love. Because I cared.

    But now. All I have is indifference. I have fallen out of love. And I donít know if this can be fixed. I donít know if I even want to fix it.
    The kicker is that, you know the second you do fix it, they will fuck you over and break your heart again.

    It really, really doesn't help how the club operates. With every manager and every player being so disposable, there's very little to develop a connection with.


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    I am 65 years of age and been watching Forest since I was 8 home and away , but this lockdown and the standard of football we are having to watch has made me think do I really need to spend £450 on a season ticket and £100 on most away games.
    I am fed up with this negative football all of these so called managers keep dishing up and I am sorry I se Hughton being no different


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    I'm with you mate. I didn't enjoy last season to be honest, I was bored then and we were top 6 most of the time.
    I hate the way we play, the slow predictable plod until the expected misplaced pass.
    I hate the constant flow of second rate players through the club none of whom improve us at all.
    I hate the club constantly papering over the cracks by releasing something related to a European Cup win.
    I could go on but I just can't be bothered, I'm off for a beer.


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    And it'll be a hundred times worse if we slip down into League One again


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    I'm sorry I dont post very much but like Congo Red Ive loved this team for nearly 50 years and I also feel what can only be described as anaesthetised by not only the team but the whole set up
    over the last few years. It's not the losing (we can all deal with that) but the lack of an identity we seem to have succumbed to. My only hope is that at some point we somehow end up with
    the nucleus of a young team who might lose, get relegated even, but will grow and improve together. Players that will learn to trust each other rather than a shower of strangers passing
    through on the bi-annual City ground transfer lottery. A group of Players that will feel they have a bond with our club and our club with them. I promise its not senility talking. Good players join us
    and don't perform, then go somewhere else and do. Why? Its not just bad luck given the sheer amount of times that this happens but does anyone upstairs ask why? Or is it simply better to buy
    a new overpriced player and hope they make a difference? We need a proper long term vision for this club we all love and like Congo Red, I feel the care draining from me a little more every season...
    Sorry for the ramble but it is just how I feel.


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    Fuckinghell, when crowds return they could make the Fazza-Dougie season look like a packed house at this rate!


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tubby Winger View Post
    I'm sorry I dont post very much but like Congo Red Ive loved this team for nearly 50 years and I also feel what can only be described as anaesthetised by not only the team but the whole set up
    over the last few years. It's not the losing (we can all deal with that) but the lack of an identity we seem to have succumbed to. My only hope is that at some point we somehow end up with
    the nucleus of a young team who might lose, get relegated even, but will grow and improve together. Players that will learn to trust each other rather than a shower of strangers passing
    through on the bi-annual City ground transfer lottery. A group of Players that will feel they have a bond with our club and our club with them. I promise its not senility talking. Good players join us
    and don't perform, then go somewhere else and do. Why? Its not just bad luck given the sheer amount of times that this happens but does anyone upstairs ask why? Or is it simply better to buy
    a new overpriced player and hope they make a difference? We need a proper long term vision for this club we all love and like Congo Red, I feel the care draining from me a little more every season...
    Sorry for the ramble but it is just how I feel.
    Absolutely spot on, that. Nailed it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tubby Winger View Post
    Sorry for the ramble but it is just how I feel.
    No need to apologise chap.

    You articulated what many of us are feeling, very eloquently.


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    Its painful watching and hearing my son get disillusioned by the club too. Young and once enthusiastic now dragged down to a level I was at back in the past under Megson and co. I suppose I care less now than I did but he shouldn't be so pessimistic so soon in his Forest life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk Furtull View Post
    .... he shouldn't be so pessimistic so soon in his Forest life.
    I don't know. It saves time.


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    I can't help but I can sympathise. A couple of my match-going mates gave up the ghost in the last ten or so years. They didn't go mad, they didn't rip up their season tickets. They just lost interest, so much so that they even stopped checking for results.

    I couldn't understand them. I was like, "Come on, it's Forest." I get it now. It's not just the indifferent league form; it's not just the fact that John Major was PM the last time we got to a cup quarter final; it's not just the false dawns. It's also watching lesser clubs go off and have their time in the sunny uplands of the Premier League while we stay behind. Following Forest, well, it's a bit like having a banging party next door which you ain't invited to.

    I've no intention of giving up on Forest completely but I can't say I get as emotional about the club as I used to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    I don't know. It saves time.
    At least he's got a good few years ahead of him (all being well) to maybe see an upturn in fortune. Sadly I don't think I have!

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    Default Re: I Need Help.

    I don’t know whether to take comfort from so many of us feeling the same...or get more depressed about it.


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    We've been a 2nd rate club for 20 years, and have built a reputation as serial bottlers over that time.

    Why now?

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    Probably worth digging this up again as itís appropriate:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    We've been a 2nd rate club for 20 years, and have built a reputation as serial bottlers over that time.

    Why now?
    There's always a point when enough is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    We've been a 2nd rate club for 20 years, and have built a reputation as serial bottlers over that time.

    Why now?
    I honestly don’t know. I’ve been trying to come to a definite reason in my own head. Is it being ground down by so many bottle jobs over the years? Do I feel disconnected from the club because I moved away from Nottingham? Do I feel indifferent because the club has become a soulless rich mans plaything? Do I not feel for the players because they’re largely wealthy mercenaries who show no passion?

    Probably all of the above...and none of those are too recent. I guess...I really don’t know. But I’ve definitely lost that loving feeling. Woe.


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    Welcome to the brotherhood mate, I felt like this a couple of years ago, fucked it all off and now after a bit of time I can "enjoy" it without particularly giving a shit either way. The only time I care now about football in general is for 90 minutes. Outside of that it's curry, boobs and beer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-engelos Mindminackers View Post
    The kicker is that, you know the second you do fix it, they will fuck you over and break your heart again.

    It really, really doesn't help how the club operates. With every manager and every player being so disposable, there's very little to develop a connection with.
    I think that's the worst thing. We all know how the owners run the club, so even if we survive this season I am not particularly confident next season is going to be much better.

    At best we are just going to tread water in the Championship with an ever revolving door of players and managers coming and going. At worst, potential lower league oblivion for many years to come.

    It's not just the fact that we are shit that bothers me, it's the fact that the way we are run offers no real hope of things getting better.

    I'll never walk away from this club, but it does feel like a lost cause at the moment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    Welcome to the brotherhood mate, I felt like this a couple of years ago, fucked it all off and now after a bit of time I can "enjoy" it without particularly giving a shit either way. The only time I care now about football in general is for 90 minutes. Outside of that it's curry, boobs and beer.
    I think it started really dying for me when Psycho was sacked. But like a relationship that used to be great, I kind of carried on regardless, in the hope that one day I’d feel the same as I used to.


 

 

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