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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    Money talks.

    Barnsley won't finish in the top six and he can double, perhaps triple, his wages by coming here.

    He's an established player at this level not an unknown. There isn't a shop window for him by staying at Barnsley.
    The better he plays for Barnsley between now and the end of the season, the better choice of club he'll have in the summer when he is out of contract. Staying at Barnsley until the end of the season makes a lot more sense than chaining himself to a club that might be in League One next season.

    As for the financial side of things, I'd be surprised if there wasn't interest from other clubs higher in the league table who can at least match what we can offer.

    He won't be coming here this month.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest ash View Post
    Has it been?
    Time will tell, I suppose. Who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Redd'un View Post
    Really?
    There was a piece in (I think) The Athletic suggesting that Brazil had put forward a list of upcoming British-based players, and someone else in recruitment had scrapped it and said a different strategy was required. It could be bullshit.

    Edited to add - having reread the article it doesn't sound quite as damning. I've posted a few excerpts here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    There was a piece in (I think) The Athletic suggesting that Brazil had put forward a list of upcoming British-based players, and someone else in recruitment had scrapped it and said a different strategy was required. It could be bullshit.

    Edited to add - having reread the article it doesn't sound quite as damning. I've posted a few excerpts here.
    Top work sir


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Redreason View Post
    We don't need another midfielder. We have Bachirou waiting to burst onto the scene

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    Thats as may be but but priority will is a midfielder whether it is this guy or someone else I have no doubts that a midfielder will be targeted in this window


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    There was a piece in (I think) The Athletic suggesting that Brazil had put forward a list of upcoming British-based players, and someone else in recruitment had scrapped it and said a different strategy was required. It could be bullshit.

    Edited to add - having reread the article it doesn't sound quite as damning. I've posted a few excerpts here.
    I also just noticed the article also contradicts itself with regards to that, it says: "Brazil’s remit is to highlight and scout domestic talent, particularly within the younger age groups. Modesto will continue to look for targets overseas." then says that given Grosicki and Krovinovic are targets "it feels as though targets identified by Modesto are the more likely arrivals." Neither of those players are playing overseas so if Modesto's job is to find targets overseas why would either of those two arriving suggest Modesto's targets are more likely?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rockabilly View Post
    Went to Mowatt Forest...
    I bet he misses a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    There was a piece in (I think) The Athletic suggesting that Brazil had put forward a list of upcoming British-based players, and someone else in recruitment had scrapped it and said a different strategy was required. It could be bullshit.

    Edited to add - having reread the article it doesn't sound quite as damning. I've posted a few excerpts here.
    Sounds more like Brazilís targets arenít ready but the Greeks are Modesto


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    I also just noticed the article also contradicts itself with regards to that, it says: "Brazilís remit is to highlight and scout domestic talent, particularly within the younger age groups. Modesto will continue to look for targets overseas." then says that given Grosicki and Krovinovic are targets "it feels as though targets identified by Modesto are the more likely arrivals." Neither of those players are playing overseas so if Modesto's job is to find targets overseas why would either of those two arriving suggest Modesto's targets are more likely?
    It is inconsistent.

    "It feels as though" = "I'm speculating".

    Whoever wrote the article doesn't know, but doesn't want to write, "I dont know the details of how the club makes transfer decisions".

    THE TRUTH IS THERE AND WITH IT I GO TO THE END OF THE WORLD .

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    I donít know how you could read that article and come to the conclusion that Brazilís targets are being ignored for Modestoís.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheRed View Post
    I don’t know how you could read that article and come to the conclusion that Brazil’s targets are being ignored for Modesto’s.


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    It gets whipped up on Twitter, every other post on the NFFC timeline is people slagging the club off about us probably signing "shit, foreign Modesto players". People read the article, twist certain points to suit those types of posts, it gets shared and taken as fact, when actually if that article was black and white you'd have to assume the likes of Taylor, McKenna, Colback, Arter, Blackett, Freeman and Christie (the bulk of our summer business) are Brazil suggestions with him doing the domestic market, I doubt it is as black and white as that though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheRed View Post
    I don’t know how you could read that article and come to the conclusion that Brazil’s targets are being ignored for Modesto’s.


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    It looks as though they are both trying to find targets but in different markets. Brazil is looking here and Modesto abroad. Don't see the conflict especially if Hughton then says it's his decision anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Statto View Post
    It looks as though they are both trying to find targets but in different markets. Brazil is looking here and Modesto abroad. Don't see the conflict especially if Hughton then says it's his decision anyway.
    Quite.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    ... the NFFC timeline is people slagging the club off.
    Some things never change.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    Some things never change.
    It is funny, my favourites are when people say "we'll probably sign some Prem reject on massive wages ffs #NFFC" which is a fair criticism but then you see a journalist saying something like "Aston Villa are prepared to let Conor Hourihane leave the club on loan in January" and the same people say "would defo take him at #NFFC!"

    Essentially when people moan about that kind of thing on Twitter they're actually saying "Forest should sign only the players I want them to sign, I know best!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    I also just noticed the article also contradicts itself with regards to that, it says: "Brazilís remit is to highlight and scout domestic talent, particularly within the younger age groups. Modesto will continue to look for targets overseas." then says that given Grosicki and Krovinovic are targets "it feels as though targets identified by Modesto are the more likely arrivals." Neither of those players are playing overseas so if Modesto's job is to find targets overseas why would either of those two arriving suggest Modesto's targets are more likely?
    I think this is where I took it as meaning 'foreign targets' instead of going for British talent. Not foreign as 'playing overseas' but as not British.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    I think this is where I took it as meaning 'foreign targets' instead of going for British talent. Not foreign as 'playing overseas' but as not British.

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    Yeah it might mean that, probably does but surely it should say that if it means that, it's quite an important distinction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    It is funny, my favourites are when people say "we'll probably sign some Prem reject on massive wages ffs #NFFC" which is a fair criticism but then you see a journalist saying something like "Aston Villa are prepared to let Conor Hourihane leave the club on loan in January" and the same people say "would defo take him at #NFFC!"

    Essentially when people moan about that kind of thing on Twitter they're actually saying "Forest should sign only the players I want them to sign, I know best!"
    Fans always know best.

    Which was the club which had fans making football decisions such as team selection? I wonder how that's going...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    Essentially when people moan about that kind of thing on Twitter they're actually saying "Forest should sign only the players I want them to sign, I know best!"
    Actually HP, I'd suggest that there are people not too far from here who share that stance.


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    Lots of speculation, as there is in any window. Who eventually does/doesn't come here will paint the truer picture.

    I do think one of our biggest problems at the club has been people such as Marthur, Fawaz, and now EM's staff thinking they know better than the manager tho.

    Sign the players the likes of SOD & Billy etc. want, instead of having make-do's like Abdoun & Da Costa forced on them, and we stand a far better chance of going up. I get the logic of them being involved, but right down to Gurerro being forced on Lamouchi lately, it seems the chain of command is topsy turvy when it comes to making the footballing decisions.

    Can anyone think of a time where a CEO/Owner/Scout/Etc. has dropped a player into the side, and he's been a top signing?


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    Alf, you are speculating over something you nor I have any knowledge over. We don't know who signed what players. Taking your example of Eddie, who was 'forced' on Sabri. We hear one story saying that SL was impressed with him in the preseason game against Oly and wanted to bring him in, if you believe another story EM asked SL twice to take him and the third time he accepted. Which is the truth?

    Likewise, if you take what is written as gospel, Samba is a Modesto signing. So there you go, Samba was dropped in to the side and voted the best keeper in the league last season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    It is funny, my favourites are when people say "we'll probably sign some Prem reject on massive wages ffs #NFFC" which is a fair criticism but then you see a journalist saying something like "Aston Villa are prepared to let Conor Hourihane leave the club on loan in January" and the same people say "would defo take him at #NFFC!"

    Essentially when people moan about that kind of thing on Twitter they're actually saying "Forest should sign only the players I want them to sign, I know best!"
    The difference there is that Conor Hourihane is a player who is absolutely capable of coming into the NFFC side and making a real difference in an area of the pitch where Forest are woeful - the centre of Midfield. Heís still only 29.

    Instead, Forest end up with players who are the wrong side of 30, havenít been playing much, and - most often - just seem to be going through the motions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    The difference there is that Conor Hourihane is a player who is absolutely capable of coming into the NFFC side and making a real difference in an area of the pitch where Forest are woeful - the centre of Midfield. Heís still only 29.

    Instead, Forest end up with players who are the wrong side of 30, havenít been playing much, and - most often - just seem to be going through the motions.
    Iíd have Conor Hourihane over Fouad Bachirou everyday day of the week



    WHOOOOOOOO?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    The difference there is that Conor Hourihane is a player who is absolutely capable of coming into the NFFC side and making a real difference in an area of the pitch where Forest are woeful - the centre of Midfield. He’s still only 29.

    Instead, Forest end up with players who are the wrong side of 30, haven’t been playing much, and - most often - just seem to be going through the motions.
    There's no guarantee Hourihane wouldn't be exactly the same though, for example he's played less football than Arter has over the last couple of seasons, I would guess he's on similar (or knowing Villa more) money and is only a year younger, turns 30 in a couple of weeks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    There's no guarantee Hourihane wouldn't be exactly the same though, for example he's played less football than Arter has over the last couple of seasons, I would guess he's on similar (or knowing Villa more) money and is only a year younger, turns 30 in a couple of weeks.
    Hourihane was a much more aggressive player though, as anyone who recalls him running the midfield in games against Forest will tell you.

    I never saw Arter doing that, different kind of player.

    Hourihane, or the way he plays the game, is the kind of player Forest should be looking at.


 

 

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