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    Default Re: MATCHDAY 15: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v WATFORD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    And cafu has shown signs tonight that he can be a creative outlet and make movements that other don't. So an improvement. Needs more game time before being written off or thrown as many pelters as he has had from emmos tally chart.
    I hope you're right. As I said I didn't think he was bad in a poor side, Let's see if he's nailed his place by Christmas and we've moved up the league.


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    Default Re: MATCHDAY 15: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v WATFORD.

    Quote Originally Posted by EmmersonForest4 View Post
    Carlos we are 21st in the league and only won 3 out of 15 games whilst everyone was expecting playoffs and some posters were saying we have a top 2 squad. Considering what our expectations are and where we are I cant believe you are having a go at me for being a bit negative. I dont actively seek out anything Carlos you have to let go of that awful preconception. Once we start winning and scoring my posts will reflect that and once we get near a playoff quality side ill be smiling from ear to ear.
    Yeah alright emmo. It's past midnight here so I can't be arsed anymore. Much more important things to be doing. Night


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Sinister View Post
    I just got lucky...
    When do we find out who we drew?

    Can we rig it by warming our preferred balls before?


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    Shall we put Cafū in the flatter to deceive category rather than the bong average one to save any future disappointment?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagman View Post
    Yates+Arter > Yates+Colback

    Cafu very good. Worrall very good.
    Taylor really wants it, which is good, and Christie looked arsed for once, rather than looking not arsed, which is good.

    Ref? Fucking hell.

    And for people carping about subs - yes Hughton has a habit of not making many, but ask yourself in all honesty, who would you have taken off tactically? The only bloke who underperformed really was Knockaert, but ask yourself.. would you take him off?

    A point against Watford in our current form?
    I'll take that.
    I'd have subbed Knockaert after an hour. He just disappeared out of the game. Passing went to pot and he was stacting to trip over the ball.
    Lolley looked shagged from about 70 minutes in, and Taylor was running on gas at the end,as was Arter. And they're straight back into another game on the weekend. He's missing the chance of winning games by being too cautious. Watford also looked gassed towards the end, especially Cathcart. If we could've got some pace on to really runat them who knows, we might have got a shot on target.


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    Default Re: MATCHDAY 15: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v WATFORD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ray's Redlist View Post
    I'd have subbed Knockaert after an hour. He just disappeared out of the game. Passing went to pot and he was stacting to trip over the ball.
    Lolley looked shagged from about 70 minutes in, and Taylor was running on gas at the end,as was Arter. And they're straight back into another game on the weekend. He's missing the chance of winning games by being too cautious. Watford also looked gassed towards the end, especially Cathcart. If we could've got some pace on to really runat them who knows, we might have got a shot on target.
    Fair comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listen 'ere young man View Post
    Shall we put Cafū in the flatter to deceive category rather than the bong average one to save any future disappointment?
    We could put him in the good start, offers something we haven't seen from our midfield yet and, given time may well bear fruit category.

    Now if only everyone's darling Knockie could put the ball onto someone's head in the box we'd have half a team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ray's Redlist View Post
    I'd have subbed Knockaert after an hour. He just disappeared out of the game. Passing went to pot and he was stacting to trip over the ball.
    Lolley looked shagged from about 70 minutes in, and Taylor was running on gas at the end,as was Arter. And they're straight back into another game on the weekend. He's missing the chance of winning games by being too cautious. Watford also looked gassed towards the end, especially Cathcart. If we could've got some pace on to really runat them who knows, we might have got a shot on target.
    As I said earlier, mighten for Lolley would've been my choice. Sammy's too random and balls at defending, whereas Alex is a bundle of energy and could've made something happen, especially as you say, tired Watford legs.

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    Default Re: MATCHDAY 15: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v WATFORD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley View Post
    As I said earlier, mighten for Lolley would've been my choice. Sammy's too random and balls at defending, whereas Alex is a bundle of energy and could've made something happen, especially as you say, tired Watford legs.

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    100% correct on this Huxley. Mighten would've torn Femina or Ngakia a new one. At the very least be more productive than Lolley.

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    Default Re: MATCHDAY 15: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v WATFORD.

    We didn't concede, we didn't lose but we never looked like scoring either.
    Never got enough bodies in the box, couldn't put a good cross in and didn't get a proper shot in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-engelos Mindminackers View Post
    As others have said, good point esp considering the opposition, the run we're on & the fact we played fairly decent.

    What a difference a Wozza makes.

    I'll take another poiny at Reading too. Scrape by until Jan

    Well done lads, big relief after the recent games.
    The thing for me with that game... Barnsley we played well and lost, two nothing! That would have shattered the boys' confidence. This, although scrappy and far from perfect, was probably as good as we'll get from a team bereft of confidence. More importantly, it'll build confidence going into Reading which is a winnable game.

    Despite what people said, that wasn't a Sabri performance and goals will come as a by product of growing confidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notcher View Post
    Finally we have a genuine box to box midfielder in Cafu. He has some similar attributes to Sow but the ability to break forward and make intelligent runs. Yates let the game bypass him again and I lost count the amount of times Hughton screamed "angles Yatesy".

    A very good solid and encouraging debut from Cafu.

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    Yates could do from playing rugby. I've been a big critic of his but in fairness, he's not been terrible this season.

    However, there is one major part of his game that really gets me. With space in front of him rather than opening up, driving forward and looking for a ball in behind or through a gap, or... draw a man and play a one-two he turns and passes it sideways to a CB who is 3 yards away. Unfortunately, I don't think that's a confidence thing more an ability thing. Teams looking to get out of this league can't carry players whose mantra on the ball is 'panic panic panic don't fuck up!!... PHEW!'



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    Bloody hell , I didn’t realise they could have gone top, that makes yesterday’s result and play much more credible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ray's Redlist View Post
    I'd have subbed Knockaert after an hour. He just disappeared out of the game. Passing went to pot and he was stacting to trip over the ball.
    Lolley looked shagged from about 70 minutes in, and Taylor was running on gas at the end,as was Arter. And they're straight back into another game on the weekend. He's missing the chance of winning games by being too cautious. Watford also looked gassed towards the end, especially Cathcart. If we could've got some pace on to really runat them who knows, we might have got a shot on target.
    Mate's a Cov fan. They brought 5 players on all at once against Norwich and the fresh legs made a huge difference.

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    Sabri first four games four defeats no goals. Hughton last four games three defeats and a draw and no goals. Progress!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Redreason View Post
    Mate's a Cov fan. They brought 5 players on all at once against Norwich and the fresh legs made a huge difference.

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    Default Re: MATCHDAY 15: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v WATFORD.

    I think the change in shape made a world of difference. We looked great with 2 box to box mids getting close to Taylor when he needed support and I think Yates did a fantastic job patrolling the area in front of the CBs.

    Again, I think Yates forward passing game is improving every time he steps on the pitch. He’s starting to find his forward passes with regularity.


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    Default Re: MATCHDAY 15: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v WATFORD.

    I thought Watford were very disappointing last night.
    Forest contained them quite easily and they didn't really put Samba under any real threat.
    That was down to the back 4 looking less panic stricken and the midfield 5 looking generally to want to move the ball forward.
    I also thought that Watford were a cynical bunch, and Chalobar should have been sent off.
    It is a shame we never get to see the Ref's Assessor's reports.
    Last nights ought to have been quite damning of that useless bugger, Webb.
    I recognised him as soon as he came on the pitch - he has previous "form" reffing Forest's games, but I can't remember which game I remember him from.

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    Default Re: MATCHDAY 15: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v WATFORD.

    Quote Originally Posted by MXJ View Post
    Again, I think Yates forward passing game is improving every time he steps on the pitch. He’s starting to find his forward passes with regularity.
    Impossible. End of every game someone will tell me he didn't play a single forward pass. So until I see a figure on Emmo's clicker that he was using to count Yate's forward passes, I don't believe it.


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    Default Re: MATCHDAY 15: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v WATFORD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Sinister View Post
    I thought Watford were very disappointing last night..
    Forest made them look disappointing. They pushed and pressed and harried them at a high-pace, something that Forest haven’t really demonstrated consistently so far this season.

    Had the Reds sat back - as has often happened this term - Watford‘s quality would have shown. But Forest didn’t let them waltz through midfield, which was creditable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Forest made them look disappointing. They pushed and pressed and harried them at a high-pace, something that Forest haven’t really demonstrated consistently so far this season.

    Had the Reds sat back - as has often happened this term - Watford‘s quality would have shown. But Forest didn’t let them waltz through midfield, which was creditable.
    Absolutely. Also Wozza's calming influence and leadership at the back too, which also made a better Figgy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cureboy View Post
    Sabri first four games four defeats no goals. Hughton last four games three defeats and a draw and no goals. Progress!
    We've just played Bournemouth, Swansea and Watford. Sabri didn't play anyone decent, apart maybe from Brizzle Sh1tty.

    My son wanted to watch so I did end up seeing the game. A definite improvement on Sunday and last week's Bournemouth trip. Cafu offered energy and power, something really lacking. Thought the fullbacks did well in getting formawrd. Yuri put in more decent balls than the wingers though. Lolley, for me, produces nothing anymore. Maybe it's playing on the left but he rarely beats a man and his crossing is shocking. Knockaert put a few good balls in but not often enough. Taylor exists on half chances right now. Worrall and Figs kept Deeney quiet. Assume Watford's MOM would be the ref for keeping them at 11 men.


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    How refreshing to wake up and not be beaten

    Lots of positives from last night, hope we can get enough out the Dec games to keep pressure off Hughton, and give the top brass enough faith to back him well in Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ray's Redlist View Post
    I'd have subbed Knockaert after an hour. He just disappeared out of the game. Passing went to pot and he was stacting to trip over the ball.
    Lolley looked shagged from about 70 minutes in, and Taylor was running on gas at the end,as was Arter. And they're straight back into another game on the weekend. He's missing the chance of winning games by being too cautious. Watford also looked gassed towards the end, especially Cathcart. If we could've got some pace on to really runat them who knows, we might have got a shot on target.
    Part of me wonders if he'd doing this with a view to the long term, and getting as much game time into the players legs as possible?

    He is renowned for his erluctance to use subs though. That's just summat I accept.

    Quote Originally Posted by rockabilly View Post
    Absolutely. Also Wozza's calming influence and leadership at the back too, which also made a better Figgy.
    Exactly mate. He carried Figs loads last season, and it's no surprise Figs looks a better player with him back in the team.

    Even if Figs does well from here on with Wozza along side him, I hope that we're looking to upgrade him before next season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkshire Red View Post
    We've just played Bournemouth, Swansea and Watford. Sabri didn't play anyone decent, apart maybe from Brizzle Sh1tty.

    My son wanted to watch so I did end up seeing the game. A definite improvement on Sunday and last week's Bournemouth trip. Cafu offered energy and power, something really lacking. Thought the fullbacks did well in getting formawrd. Yuri put in more decent balls than the wingers though. Lolley, for me, produces nothing anymore. Maybe it's playing on the left but he rarely beats a man and his crossing is shocking. Knockaert put a few good balls in but not often enough. Taylor exists on half chances right now. Worrall and Figs kept Deeney quiet. Assume Watford's MOM would be the ref for keeping them at 11 men.
    I get your point but its the same turgid football as before regardless. We must be experts in the art of creating very little or no clear cut chances in whole games of football and that is worrying. I've watched every game in lockdown and it's got to the point where a goal is a total surprise and a free flowing attack creating a clear cut chance is as rare as rocking horse shit. And we have a better squad this season and now a manager with proven pedigree - so things need to start improving.


 

 

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