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  1. #7151
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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    Whats playing out is a damining indictment on the Hughton tenure. Thats indisputable. He bought a system here the players just didnt buy into, that doesnt make him a shit manager, he's proven that with success elsewhere.

    Buck stops with him, but it is laughable from some that a supposed deep dislike for Hughton is a blatant points scoring wind up.

    We talk far too much about ex managers on here.


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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    Quote Originally Posted by MASE View Post
    Whats playing out is a damining indictment on the Hughton tenure. Thats indisputable. He bought a system here the players just didnt buy into, that doesnt make him a shit manager, he's proven that with success elsewhere.

    Buck stops with him, but it is laughable from some that a supposed deep dislike for Hughton is a blatant points scoring wind up.

    We talk far too much about ex managers on here.
    I walked out after an hour Vs Middleborough and planned not to return until he was removed from position.

    It was not a 'supposed' deep dislike nor is it point scoring. His Forest side was completely unwatchable and it was destroying my love for the club. I suspect I am not alone.

    30/09/2021: It's only 8 points to the play-offs. Doesn't matter if we're 20th having lost three times as many games as we've won so far. I fancy us now that Hughton's gone.

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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    I walked out after an hour Vs Middleborough and planned not to return until he was removed from position.

    It was not a 'supposed' deep dislike nor is it point scoring. His Forest side was completely unwatchable and it was destroying my love for the club. I suspect I am not alone.
    You certainly are not.

    Hughton made watching Forest an unenjoyable chore. God knows it was excruciating remotely, let alone in person.

    Anyway, there’s a possibility Steve Cooper has ended Hughton‘s Club management career, at this point.

    „I believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialism“

    „Don't forget you're alive. 'Cause sometimes when you walk around the city and you're in a bad mood, you can think, hey, wait a minute, we're alive! We don't know what the next second will bring and what a fantastic thing this is. This can get easily forgotten in the routine of life, and that's something I'm trying to bring to my attention at all times. Don't forget you're alive. We're not dead, you know. This is the greatest thing.”

    — Joe Strummer

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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    You certainly are not.

    Hughton made watching Forest an unenjoyable chore. God knows it was excruciating remotely, let alone in person.

    Anyway, there’s a possibility Steve Cooper has ended Hughton‘s Club management career, at this point.
    100%

    What kept me coming back was knowing the quality & talent we had compared to the other non-parachute payment teams.

    A lot of credit goes to Murphy too. It would have been a tough bastard not to give Hughton a chance this season but also just changing him for anybody may not have helped.

    It also feels impressive and unique as we normally don't look to pay money for any coach/manager but he knows the importance of what a good one can do in creating a team greater than the sum of their parts which is what non-parachute payment teams who mix it at the top need.


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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    It was two radar charts comparing our attacking stats under Cooper and under Hughton. Hughtons chart was a tiny tiny circle in the middle (if you're not familiar with radar charts it basically meant we didn't do it).

    Anyway, now catharsis: absolutely fucking wank. Sorry if not gracious, my contempt for him runs very deep.
    Fair enough. I'm the same with Megson.


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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde View Post
    Fair enough. I'm the same with Megson.
    Yes, agreed.

    Megson is the special case for the old conundrum:

    „You are locked in a room with Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot and Gary Megson. You have a gun, with two bullets left.“

    „Who do you shoot?“


    The answer of course is Megson, twice, just to be safe.


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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    at the end of the day , hughton is too old school stubborn hard headedness to adapt and change his ways and methods , what worked before at brighton doesn't mean it'll work with different set of players.


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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    Quote Originally Posted by marshal99 View Post
    at the end of the day , hughton is too old school stubborn hard headedness to adapt and change his ways and methods , what worked before at brighton doesn't mean it'll work with different set of players.
    This. He was a good manager at this level once upon a time, but that time has been and gone. His methods no longer work at this level anymore.


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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    Quote Originally Posted by MASE View Post
    Whats playing out is a damining indictment on the Hughton tenure. Thats indisputable. He bought a system here the players just didnt buy into, that doesnt make him a shit manager, he's proven that with success elsewhere.

    Buck stops with him, but it is laughable from some that a supposed deep dislike for Hughton is a blatant points scoring wind up.

    We talk far too much about ex managers on here.
    I also think that its not got anything to do with philosphy. Listening to the players Hughton wanted to score goals and keep the ball. However it was telling what Lolley said that Hughton tried to manage them with fear.

    The problem with Hughton was the players were shit scared of making mistakes and that naturally makes you more conservative. We can see with Cooper that there are still plenty of mistakes but the players are trying things as well.

    Dont get me wrong the mistakes will hurt us in the end and we will need to eliminate some of those if we want promotion but as a foundation its been absolutely superb.


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    Ian Storey-Moore
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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    I think Cooper has effectively announced Hughtons retirement.


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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    As Cloughie once said - you can't do anything to the best of your abilities unless you're relaxed

    If it's true that Hughton ruled by fear then he was doomed to fail from the start


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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde View Post
    As Cloughie once said - you can't do anything to the best of your abilities unless you're relaxed

    If it's true that Hughton ruled by fear then he was doomed to fail from the start
    Exactly and I notice it when I manage people. The last thing you need is that fear you are going to get a bollocking.

    Lolley said and I am paraphrasing that when they used to loose the ball Hughton would have a big enquiry about.


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    Default Re: Christopher William Gerard Hughton is no longer the manager.




 

 

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