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    Forest being Forest again

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    Finally gone for option 2. Dark days indeed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by T.B.T. View Post
    I wasnít able to watch on iFollow despite them saying I could, because according to Gemma NFFC didnít send iFollow my email address.

    Still no response from NFFC, the ticket office or iFollow.
    The saga continues.....

    I have, at least, received an email from the Ticket Office.

    The ticket office say I have to contact iFollow as they supplied my email address to them for the match. So itís iFollowís fault.

    IFollow said, they couldnít provide me with video to the Cardiff game because NFFC didnít supply my email address to them. So itís NFFCís fault.

    Now what?

    What has everyone else done? The ST holders who couldnít watch iFollow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.B.T. View Post
    What has everyone else done? The ST holders who couldn’t watch iFollow?
    Gone for option 2 so you don't have to worry about shit like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    Gone for option 2 so you don't have to worry about shit like this.
    What about the Cardiff game?

    I was never given the choice for the Cardiff game.

    Todays deadline relates to all home games following the Bristol match on 3rd October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.B.T. View Post
    What about the Cardiff game?

    I was never given the choice for the Cardiff game.

    Todays deadline relates to all home games following the Bristol match on 3rd October.
    Don't know. I assumed Forest would try and pull a fast one if anyone watched on iFollow on Saturday and then tried to select Option 2 afterwards, saying something like "You chose option 1 by using the code"

    So I didn't watch it.

    Bad that I don't trust the club...


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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    Don't know. I assumed Forest would try and pull a fast one if anyone watched on iFollow on Saturday and then tried to select Option 2 afterwards, saying something like "You chose option 1 by using the code"

    So I didn't watch it.

    Bad that I don't trust the club...
    I assumed the same. They pulled that trick last year so safe to say theyíll do the same now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.B.T. View Post
    The saga continues.....

    I have, at least, received an email from the Ticket Office.

    The ticket office say I have to contact iFollow as they supplied my email address to them for the match. So it’s iFollow’s fault.

    IFollow said, they couldn’t provide me with video to the Cardiff game because NFFC didn’t supply my email address to them. So it’s NFFC’s fault.

    Now what?

    What has everyone else done? The ST holders who couldn’t watch iFollow?
    give them 14 days to sort out & threaten trading standards/court action? They haven't supplied something you paid for


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    Have just read an article on *that sports website* where they interviewed people who went to watch Norwich at the ground but in one of the club bars. So it was an iFollow stream but shown in club premise.

    It got me thinking why Forest don't offer that. Is it due to tier restrictions? Or just that Forest haven't got their arse in gear to offer it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by FBS View Post
    Have just read an article on *that sports website* where they interviewed people who went to watch Norwich at the ground but in one of the club bars. So it was an iFollow stream but shown in club premise.

    It got me thinking why Forest don't offer that. Is it due to tier restrictions? Or just that Forest haven't got their arse in gear to offer it?
    Clubs like Norwich are streets ahead of us with stuff like that. Even my local club Hull have been doing that.


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    So is it a club thing then?
    We just haven't pulled our finger out of our arse and got the Castle Club open for something like that.


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    Anyone on here still think we'll see 20,000 in the WFCG in the next couple of years? All the scientists who are allowed to spout on the mainstream media are telling us that masks and social distancing are here to stay. Fauci says we'll get used to not congregating in big crowds.

    Have we actually seen the end of spectator sports as we know it?


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    Probably not given that the virus will probably end up like seasonal flu at the worst case, it's more likely it will probably either die out by itself like other viruses eventually do, or we'll either have sufficient immunity by a combination of getting it and a vaccine.

    But you would potentially think that activities which gather large numbers of people in smaller spaces would happen less. Even if they say they are fine, people may be less inclined to go to them.

    The clubs have showed that you can watch matches online via pay per view, I'd like to see this continue, in fact you could buy a pass to watch all the matches on iFollow like you can with the audio.

    What I don't understand though, is that at the weekend, West Ham fans were allowed to watch the Man City game in a nearby cinema (inside) yet it wasn't considered safe for them to do it outside in the ground.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Statto View Post
    The clubs have showed that you can watch matches online via pay per view, I'd like to see this continue, in fact you could buy a pass to watch all the matches on iFollow like you can with the audio.
    Is that a permanent solution do you think? I'm less likely to watch games now than ever before. The complete lack of any atmosphere spoils it somewhat for me. How do others feel about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Statto View Post
    What I don't understand though, is that at the weekend, West Ham fans were allowed to watch the Man City game in a nearby cinema (inside) yet it wasn't considered safe for them to do it outside in the ground.
    It's all a mess isn't it? No consistency.


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    I, along with 9.500 other hardy souls, went to watch VfB Stuttgart against Bayer Leverkusen three weeks ago.

    We were all socially distanced inside an arena that normally seats between 55.00-60.000 for home games, and no away fans were present.

    And it was weird. There was some atmosphere, singing and suchlike, but it was so alien compared to a normal matchday environment. A ban on alcohol didnít help either.

    Iíd probably go again, as long as it was safe, but it was nothing like the rabid heat of a usual VfB match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    I, along with 9.500 other hardy souls, went to watch VfB Stuttgart against Bayer Leverkusen three weeks ago.

    We were all socially distanced inside an arena that normally seats between 55.00-60.000 for home games, and no away fans were present.

    And it was weird. There was some atmosphere, singing and suchlike, but it was so alien compared to a normal matchday environment. A ban on alcohol didn’t help either.

    I’d probably go again, as long as it was safe, but it was nothing like the rabid heat of a usual VfB match.
    I think that illustrates it perfectly. Apart from the fact you'll have to build enormous stadiums just to seat a small number of fans, the social distancing would deter many rather shy fans from singing anyway. I for one would feel rather odd singing on my own next to a completely silent family, for instance, plus the voice is one to die for, quite literally; it's horrible when heard in isolation!


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    I’ll be honest if football limps on like it has with nil or limited crowds it is sad but I’m done. Post lockdown football has made me realise how a massive part is the fans being there. I am just not interested without it. I’m obviously interested in Forest doing well at the moment as the hope is normality returns soon but if it doesn’t what is the point?

    I started watching Forest 87/88 so a decent team to watch but I was young and used to look down on the antics in the old Trent end with amazement. As I got older going to away games, all my adult life we have been shit. I didn’t just go for the football. It was mainly about being hemmed in with a load of like minded idiots, getting drunk, singing and celebrating any little success (often a goal would do) we got. Sometimes the football was a reason to be there but got in the way of a good session! Both go hand in hand.


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    Itís not just the match of course, itís the Journey to the Stadium, the Bier before with acquaintances old and new, taking your seat, the buildup of the atmosphere, the passion of the crowd that can lift a side and the exhortation from the supporters driving their team on.

    Itís just not the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    It’s not just the match of course, it’s the Journey to the Stadium, the Bier before with acquaintances old and new, taking your seat, the buildup of the atmosphere, the passion of the crowd that can lift a side and the exhortation from the supporters driving their team on.

    It’s just not the same.
    And that's what concerns me. It's not just football, it's other sports, gigs and cultural events. Can we really kiss goodbye to them all? It is sure looking that way.

    I'm not interested in going to watch Forest if the ground is 20& full. Just as I'm not going to Lord's to watch a Test Match if it's 20% full. The enjoyment stems from being here, being somewhere special and 80% empty is nothing close to special.


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    Agree with much of the above. I just canít help thinking without a crowd tnere, whatís the fucking point?

    The other thing this has done for me has really turned me off watching football on the tv. At first, the wall to wall football while cooped up in the house was great, but it soon got tiresome.

    I barely bother now, didnít watch any of the Prem games last weekend, and when i do i get bored and turn off pretty quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkshire Red View Post
    Is that a permanent solution do you think? I'm less likely to watch games now than ever before. The complete lack of any atmosphere spoils it somewhat for me. How do others feel about it?



    It's all a mess isn't it? No consistency.
    Obviously I'd like to see fans be allowed back in. But all matches should be on iFollow. For those who have limited time and could watch the match but don't have the time to travel to the match along with spending ages getting in and out, parking, etc or simply think the cost of tickets is too much and would rather pay a few quid to watch it.

    It's not diminishing matchday income because those people - or those who live in the UK but far away from the ground - wouldn't go anyway. I've never really agreed with the justification for the 3pm Saturday blackouts.


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    We are one of the clubs who are most reliant on matchday income. This must be hurting nffc financially.

    I hope something is sorted out soon so that crowds can return. I was happy to be involved in the 50% plan which nffc had devised.

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    Don’t see the point in going to watch a stream somewhere that would lack the atmosphere of a packed pub/bar when I could watch in the comfort of my own home. I would be happy to watch socially distanced at the actual stadium though, bit different being at the actual game for me.
    But why aren’t we letting some fans in larger stadiums when they are doing it at small grounds and bizarrely, indoors.


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    I am now starting to struggle to watch the games on TV when it was back and it was on 24/7 it was great and we normally watch every game that's on if we can but the novelty factor has worn off now it's just not the same without the fans in.

    Even the Derby game on Friday i'm normally well up for and nervous at KO but with no fans in the ground I just couldn't get up for it like I normally would it didn't seem rite.

    The fans are football. Without them it's not the same game.

    We all remember our 1st trip the the CG (Derby at home in about '87) we won 1-0 and we were all packed onto the old Bridgford terrace and when Clough scored for us and the place went mental it's an experience you can never replicate. Now I know times and football has changed since then but imagine taking your son/daughter to their 1st game in a 20% full stadium where you are all sat apart it's just not the same.

    Sad times.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GOBIAS View Post
    I’ll be honest if football limps on like it has with nil or limited crowds it is sad but I’m done. Post lockdown football has made me realise how a massive part is the fans being there. I am just not interested without it. I’m obviously interested in Forest doing well at the moment as the hope is normality returns soon but if it doesn’t what is the point?

    I started watching Forest 87/88 so a decent team to watch but I was young and used to look down on the antics in the old Trent end with amazement. As I got older going to away games, all my adult life we have been shit. I didn’t just go for the football. It was mainly about being hemmed in with a load of like minded idiots, getting drunk, singing and celebrating any little success (often a goal would do) we got. Sometimes the football was a reason to be there but got in the way of a good session! Both go hand in hand.
    Same for me.

    Even the proposed 7k capacity for October (which we knew was never going to happen) doesn’t appeal to me, a stadium the size of the CG needs a minimum of 15k in it for any kind of atmosphere.

    I’d probably watch a bit of non league football instead until maximum crowds are allowed again.


 

 

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