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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    Jenkinson was by far and away the worst of the bunch last night. Bong will get the most ire because he miscontrolled a couple of easy passes and gave the ball away, but Jenkinson spent half the night in a centre forward area having made a pointless underlapping run into Lolley's space and then not being arsed to get back to defend. He was also beaten with simple balls over the top time and time again. I was far more worried about our backup right back than our back up left last night, especially considering the right back has been here the full season and knows how we play.

    For me, if people want to overreact based on one game then the overreaction should be towards Jenkinson who joins the Adomah list of expensive signing who's career looks like it's done, so sell at any cost.

    We've got Richardson and Preston to call upon if necessary next season anyway.
    I disagree. He's no Matty Cash, but he's dependable enough. For me, Yates was the most ineffective player on the pitch. We needed a ball player in there.

    The main problem last night was lack of understanding and fluency from players who hadn't played together before.

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    I'm not a Jenkinson fan, but to say he was worse than Bong is mind boggling. Jenkinson was brave enough to get on the ball and get forward. He overlapped and put a couple of decent balls in the box, one which Sarr nearly put in his own net but for the crossbar.

    TBH I think Matty should have come on at left-back, as he can use his left and I think he'd be better hitting the ball in with pace across to the back post than crossing and over hitting when trying to wrap his foot around it.

    Re: calling upon Preston. he's a good footballer, but he's a way off the first team. Alfreton use him in midfield. I suspect he may have to try the Osborn move of becoming a midfielder if he wants to impact the first team. I do rate him as a footballer though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    Not really Rav. Jenks has been here since the Summer and was awful & cost 2m.

    Also, the Jan window is to sign players like Shorey who come straight in and contribute from the off. Like Robinson has done at WBA. Bong looked bollocksed very early.
    As Magic Forest 89 pointed out, Scott Hogan is 'hitting the ground running'. 3 goals in 3 games, they have 9 points from 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    I disagree. He's no Matty Cash, but he's dependable enough. For me, Yates was the most ineffective player on the pitch. We needed a ball player in there.

    The main problem last night was lack of understanding and fluency from players who hadn't played together before.

    We haven't got one.


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    If we're still in the Championship next season, someone I think i'd like to sign as cover/competition for Sow would be Pelly Mpanza at Luton.

    I rate him as a good footballer, but he is also a strong lad who can win a battle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    As Magic Forest 89 pointed out, Scott Hogan is 'hitting the ground running'. 3 goals in 3 games, they have 9 points from 9.

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    I'm sure there'll be some excuse as to why the all powerful & mighty Birmingham can land him, but we can't.


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    It wasnít rocket science. Because Fawaz was so bad people will literally accept any old shite now.


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    Default Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    As Magic Forest 89 pointed out, Scott Hogan is 'hitting the ground running'. 3 goals in 3 games, they have 9 points from 9.

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    I also said we should sign him in like November/December.


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    If a player doesn't want to come, for whatever reason, then you can't sign them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Forest 89 View Post
    I also said we should sign him in like November/December.
    Itís just a crying shame that the pesky transfer window isnít open in like November/December.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redad View Post
    If a player doesn't want to come, for whatever reason, then you can't sign them.

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    What?!

    You mean not every player would crawl over broken glass to play for the world famous Nottingham Forest?

    Get out of here!


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    Default Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window...

    It's every players lifelong dream to play for NFFC, and every agent and football club will agree to fees and wages which we can afford.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Pope View Post
    What?!

    You mean not every player would crawl over broken glass to play for the world famous Nottingham Forest?

    Get out of here!


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    I know, I can't quite believe it myself but it seems to be true. Otherwise we'd be awash with top quality players we could all agree are ace.
    Actually the second part would never happen.

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    Chaps Millwall have just signed Ryan Woods, Birmingham Scott Hogan, Bristol Wells, Charlton Green, etc. etc.

    The way some of you talk is like we're a newly promoted L1 side who sits 24th.

    I get beating top sides like WBA to signings might be tricky, but Andre Green plays on the wing, and has scored 2 already from there for Charlton. Are we so feeble that we can't compete with Charlton now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    Birmingham Scott Hogan
    Makes me laugh how some people are saying we should have signed Scott Hogan on the back of him having a decent start at Birmingham.

    Prior to joining Birmingham, he'd scored 12 league goals in 3 years since leaving Brentford. People would have moaned like fuck if we had signed him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    Chaps Millwall have just signed Ryan Woods, Birmingham Scott Hogan, Bristol Wells, Charlton Green, etc. etc.

    The way some of you talk is like we're a newly promoted L1 side who sits 24th.

    I get beating top sides like WBA to signings might be tricky, but Andre Green plays on the wing, and has scored 2 already from there for Charlton. Are we so feeble that we can't compete with Charlton now?
    Jesus Christ Alf give it a rest.

    We canít sign every fucker who scores a goal every week. And as far as Iím aware, nobody has a hindsight scout like you seem to think we should have.

    Iím sure we could compete with Charlton - we probably werenít in for him


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
    Makes me laugh how some people are saying we should have signed Scott Hogan on the back of him having a decent start at Birmingham.

    Prior to joining Birmingham, he'd scored 12 league goals in 3 years since leaving Brentford. People would have moaned like fuck if we had signed him.
    Anyone who scores a goal will be pointed out, no matter much they wouldn't suit our system or are just generally below par but are in a bit of form. That Green on loan to Charlton is so average. But it's not gonna stop the Football Manager brigade.


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    Iím going for what I do know and what we have currently got.

    We have a very good starting 11 especially when Sow is fit as Sky kept raising during the game against the Baggies if we fail to go up as a minimum we need cover for Sow and a replacement for Watson who has been brilliant this season but age is against him.

    Going to the bench we have Tyler and Carvalho...will Carvalho be sold in the summer?

    The rest of the bench apart from Yates (Maybe) just arenít good enough.

    While Adomah on loan at Cardiff probably wonít be back they seem to love him over there

    Either way realistically I think promotion could be a disaster as we havenít got a big enough squad of decent Championship players yet which hopefully the 12 or so good players we have got can be used by Lamouchi as a building block for next season and a push for Automatic promotion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
    Makes me laugh how some people are saying we should have signed Scott Hogan on the back of him having a decent start at Birmingham.

    Prior to joining Birmingham, he'd scored 12 league goals in 3 years since leaving Brentford. People would have moaned like fuck if we had signed him.
    Meh, either way I think the excuse we can't compete with other clubs like Brum, Charlton, or Millwall for players is bullshit.

    Last year some of those same posters were saying we're a serious club with real ambition/transfer muscle when we spunked 13m on Carvalho

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    Default Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    Meh, either way I think the excuse we can't compete with other clubs like Brum, Charlton, or Millwall for players is bullshit.

    Last year some of those same posters were saying we're a serious club with real ambition/transfer muscle when we spunked 13m on Carvalho
    No one has said we can’t compete with those clubs. You’re arguing with yourself again Alf.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    Meh, either way I think the excuse we can't compete with other clubs like Brum, Charlton, or Millwall for players is bullshit.

    Last year some of those same posters were saying we're a serious club with real ambition/transfer muscle when we spunked 13m on Carvalho
    I don't remember us being linked with any of these players, so we weren't competing for them as far as we know. And even if we were I'm not arsed about "missing out" on the likes of Hogan and Green anyway, and people wouldn't have been happy had we signed them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    No one has said we can’t compete with those clubs. You’re arguing with yourself again Alf.
    Then if we can compete, why aren't we signing better players who hit the ground running like they have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
    I don't remember us being linked with any of these players, so we weren't competing for these players. And even if we were I'm not arsed about "missing out" on the likes of Hogan and Green anyway, and people wouldn't have been happy had we signed them.
    Well that's my point. If we had a better recruitment team, we'd be in for these players.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post

    Well that's my point. If we had a better recruitment team, we'd be in for these players.
    If we had Birmingham's, Charlton's or Milwall's recruitment teams then we'd have players like Charlton, Birmingham or Milwall and we'd be mid table with you complaining our recruitment could, and should be better than shopping around looking only for bargins.


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    Assuming A) we don't go up and B) we're not keeping any of the loanees and C) we can move some of our chuff on...

    Then I would like to see us with this squad:

    GK: Samba, Smith
    RB: Cash, Richardson
    CB: Worrall, ?
    CB: Figgy, Dawson
    LB: Ribeiro, Preston
    DM: Watson, ?
    CM: Silva, ?
    CM: Sow, ?
    RW: Lolley, ?
    LW: Ameobi, Mighten
    ST: Grabban, ?, Walker

    It means Jenkinson, Benalouane, Hefele, Yates and Carvalho on the 'out' pile. Benalouane and Hef for freebies, and hopefully we'd get a combined £10m for the others.

    And it means needing a CB, 2 or 3x CM's, a RW and a striker.

    Ryan Woods, Ben Pearson, Adam Reach could be the CM's (and the latter could play RW too).

    Joe Gelhardt could be the right winger if Wigan go down and there's not PL interest.

    Lyle Taylor out of contract at Charlton is the easiest answer to fill the striker gap.

    All of those players combined could be far less than £10m and then all you need is the backup centre back to complete the squad and whilst I can't think of anyone off the top of my head I doubt we'd need to spend anymore than £1m.

    And that's without even considering the foreign market.

    If we miss out this year I think we'll be in a very good position to go again next year with some smart, cheap targeted additions like above.

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    We'd need a LB to push Yuri. Preston is a good footballer but he's not there right now.

    Not convinced by Smith as back-up. If Samba goes down and we have to rely on Smith, that's lost points for sure.


 

 

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