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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    Birmingham show what having patience with a manager gets you as they now have a 100% record from their last 1 games.
    And he did it without spending £50m between that game and the previous one.


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Surprised he hasn't had the Megson yet. All the money they spent from selling that overrated squawky Bellingham and in the bottom 3.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Statto View Post
    Surprised he hasn't had the Megson yet. All the money they spent from selling that overrated squawky Bellingham and in the bottom 3.
    Have you seen much of Bellingham play at Dortmund Statto? I know you like a laugh at the expense of kids or poo, but wondered if this opinion was genuine?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    Have you seen much of Bellingham play at Dortmund Statto? I know you like a laugh at the expense of kids or poo, but wondered if this opinion was genuine?
    He was definitely not worth what they paid for him, on the evidence of what he did at Birmingham, hence the overrated comment. Though with any kid who goes for big money they are paying for potential which might not come off (see Ollie Burke) - actually there are probably few who do move at what, 17/18 and are anything like their price tag.

    I haven't seen him since, but in terms of Bellingham, he does have the attributes - he has a good attitude, seems to be an intelligent lad, and will probably get his head down and progress so it's likely that they will get a fair return on what they did invest.

    In actual fact there are very few young players who move for a big fee and end up justifying it - I can think of Rooney as an obvious one, but that was a relatively safe one. John Hartson went from Luton to Arsenal for 1.5m didn't he, then to West Ham and Wimbledon but never got a fair look in at Arsenal. All the young-ish players we sold for a lot haven't really lived up to it - Brereton, Burke, Appiah...


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    He's played quite a bit for a team at the top end of one of the best leagues in Europe, Champions League competition and represented his country, both teams have won more than they have lost, I'd say at 17 he's done quite a bit and probably isn't overrated Statto especially in a position that is a very crucial one.


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    But would you say he was worth 25m?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Statto View Post
    But would you say he was worth 25m?
    Yes without a shadow of a doubt. Andy Carroll went for less than that. A young player that has now had Champions League wins, international wins and a lot of wins in one of the top 3 leagues in Europe, rated highly by fans of both the club and nation all at 17 years of age, I'd say that was a robbery.

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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    I saw Jude Bellingham set up a goal for his team tonight, against their arch rivals.

    For what it’s worth, Dortmund seem very happy with him and his progress. He does not look out of place at this level.

    „I believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialism“

    „Don't forget you're alive. 'Cause sometimes when you walk around the city and you're in a bad mood, you can think, hey, wait a minute, we're alive! We don't know what the next second will bring and what a fantastic thing this is. This can get easily forgotten in the routine of life, and that's something I'm trying to bring to my attention at all times. Don't forget you're alive. We're not dead, you know. This is the greatest thing.”

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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    I saw Jude Bellingham set up a goal for his team tonight, against their arch rivals.

    For what it’s worth, Dortmund seem very happy with him and his progress. He does not look out of place at this level.
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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Always liked that name, Hasan Salihamidžić.

    Ones of those names, I just enjoy repeating. If I was in a band, I'd probably name an album track Hasan Salihamidžić.


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Quote Originally Posted by Statto View Post
    But would you say he was worth 25m?
    Easily worth more than that already.


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Quote Originally Posted by adam09 View Post
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    Now, there was a tidy player in his day!


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    I always liked former champ manager god Zlatan Muslimovic.


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheRed View Post
    I always liked former champ manager god Zlatan Muslimovic.


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    Always surprised Sweden didn't win any major honorus when they had Muslimovic, Bakircioglu and Kallstrom to call on.

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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    Always surprised Sweden didn't win any major honorus when they had Muslimovic, Bakircioglu and Kallstrom to call on.
    Tonton Zola Moukouko as well


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    You could pick up that lot for a couple of million and win the champions league. I always used to sign Guardiola on a free too, he was quality for a season or two.


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    George Weah, on one of the early versions, was plying his trade in one of the Gulf States, and could be had on a „Free“ and cheap wages; even at that age (35?) he was good for 20+ goals a season.


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    Default The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheRed View Post
    You could pick up that lot for a couple of million and win the champions league. I always used to sign Guardiola on a free too, he was quality for a season or two.


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    Was that around the time he was banned in real life for drug use? I don’t think they used to put bans like that in.

    I signed a player once on the more recent games when I was a really low level team. Was very happy with him but only found out after I’d signed him that he was banned worldwide for 2 years for some reason

    Best thing I ever saw on Champ Man was a news story about a player (a real one, I think Hamilton Ricard) getting banned for 8 months or something because he attacked the linesman. Hahahahaha.

    They can’t put things like that in now because they are worried about being sued.

    Ps. Chucks Nwoko, Malta legend. What a signing.


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    There was a player you could sign from someone in League 1 or 2 who had 19 or 20 finishing and nothing much else who would bang in 30 goals a season because back then a striker only needed finishing.

    Can't remember his name but you could get him for like £50k and he'd be worth £50m in a couple of seasons.


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    There was a player you could sign from someone in League 1 or 2 who had 19 or 20 finishing and nothing much else who would bang in 30 goals a season because back then a striker only needed finishing.

    Can't remember his name but you could get him for like £50k and he'd be worth £50m in a couple of seasons.
    Was it the Northampton player? Justin something?


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Quote Originally Posted by Haych View Post
    Was it the Northampton player? Justin something?
    http://www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/n...un-prison/amp/


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Just seen that Brums last home win was end of October, 2020 against Udders.

    Really surprised AK has kept his job so long there.


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-engelos Mindminackers View Post
    Just seen that Brums last home win was end of October, 2020 against Udders.

    Really surprised AK has kept his job so long there.
    Maybe they can't afford to sack him? I don't really know what their financial situation is, but they didn't spend much in the summer despite selling Bellingham for big money.

    I don't think sacking AK at this stage would make any difference anyway. Their squad is shit and they are going down.


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    Default Re: The Rise and Fall of Aitor Karanka

    Have Birmingham ever slipped down into the third tier? Guessing they must have at some point


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
    Maybe they can't afford to sack him? I don't really know what their financial situation is, but they didn't spend much in the summer despite selling Bellingham for big money.

    I don't think sacking AK at this stage would make any difference anyway. Their squad is shit and they are going down.
    They couldn't really have picked a worse manager for a low-budget rebuild could they?

    Someone told me that only Wendies have a higher average age of players than Brum in the Champ too (both av ages being 29 y/o, but Wendies being .something higher)


 

 

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