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  1. #1476
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    Maybe, but people said similar about the Premier League. The main driver is the TV revenue and to get the most number of viewers the fans of the lower clubs need to feel they have a stake in the competition, however tenuous. The counter to that, is as you point out, the US model, and I imagine the American owners in the EPL are pushing for a closed system.
    The difference with a super league though, is that the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool never considered for a minute that they’d ever get relegated out of the PL.

    It’s a different kettle of fish with a European super league. There have been times in the last 20 years when big clubs have been hopelessly behind their rivals in Europe.

    Without bottom of the league fodder like Palace, Newcastle and Brighton to beat up every so often, the prospect of an Inter Milan, Arsenal or Atletico type team getting relegated out of the money league is very real and something none of those teams would sign up for without the guarantee of a closed shop.

    Fans in Asia and the US don’t give two shits about promotion and relegation. They just want to watch Barca vs Man Utd every week (and probably “support” both teams). They are the audience here, because there’s more of them, and they rely on TV (so the money from TV deal is huge). Clubs don’t give a fuck about John from Islington who can’t afford to take his kid to watch Arsenal, when you’ve got 18 million “fans” in China paying £14.99 a month to watch them on telly.

    Then they will start playing games all round the world or kick off at silly times to placate foreign audiences.

    Football has always been about having the most money, but this Euro league talk is just greed to the nth degree. No wonder the Yank owners are all over it, they love creating obscene wealth to the detriment of everything and everyone else.

    As you can probably tell, I’m not in favour of it. But if it happened, I don’t think I’d watch it at all. The sheer number of CL games currently plus the cost of BT Sport already turns me off the CL as it is. It’s not like Forest would be there anyway


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    Quote Originally Posted by RealRed85 View Post
    The difference with a super league though, is that the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool never considered for a minute that they’d ever get relegated out of the PL.

    It’s a different kettle of fish with a European super league. There have been times in the last 20 years when big clubs have been hopelessly behind their rivals in Europe.

    Without bottom of the league fodder like Palace, Newcastle and Brighton to beat up every so often, the prospect of an Inter Milan, Arsenal or Atletico type team getting relegated out of the money league is very real and something none of those teams would sign up for without the guarantee of a closed shop.

    Fans in Asia and the US don’t give two shits about promotion and relegation. They just want to watch Barca vs Man Utd every week (and probably “support” both teams). They are the audience here, because there’s more of them, and they rely on TV (so the money from TV deal is huge). Clubs don’t give a fuck about John from Islington who can’t afford to take his kid to watch Arsenal, when you’ve got 18 million “fans” in China paying £14.99 a month to watch them on telly.

    Then they will start playing games all round the world or kick off at silly times to placate foreign audiences.

    Football has always been about having the most money, but this Euro league talk is just greed to the nth degree. No wonder the Yank owners are all over it, they love creating obscene wealth to the detriment of everything and everyone else.

    As you can probably tell, I’m not in favour of it. But if it happened, I don’t think I’d watch it at all. The sheer number of CL games currently plus the cost of BT Sport already turns me off the CL as it is. It’s not like Forest would be there anyway


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    This just about sums it up

    As far as I'm concerned i'm pretty much past caring, they can shove it up their bollocks


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    The big clubs don't actually want a European Super League for the reasons given above. Arsenal won't fill a 60k stadium and sell shirts around the world when they are permanently in the bottom three and getting a hiding on a regular basis.

    It's been a threat used to grab an even larger slice of the pie for a quarter of a century. It's amazing that it still works.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RealRed85 View Post
    The difference with a super league though, is that the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool never considered for a minute that they’d ever get relegated out of the PL.

    It’s a different kettle of fish with a European super league. There have been times in the last 20 years when big clubs have been hopelessly behind their rivals in Europe.

    Without bottom of the league fodder like Palace, Newcastle and Brighton to beat up every so often, the prospect of an Inter Milan, Arsenal or Atletico type team getting relegated out of the money league is very real and something none of those teams would sign up for without the guarantee of a closed shop.

    Fans in Asia and the US don’t give two shits about promotion and relegation. They just want to watch Barca vs Man Utd every week (and probably “support” both teams). They are the audience here, because there’s more of them, and they rely on TV (so the money from TV deal is huge). Clubs don’t give a fuck about John from Islington who can’t afford to take his kid to watch Arsenal, when you’ve got 18 million “fans” in China paying £14.99 a month to watch them on telly.

    Then they will start playing games all round the world or kick off at silly times to placate foreign audiences.

    Football has always been about having the most money, but this Euro league talk is just greed to the nth degree. No wonder the Yank owners are all over it, they love creating obscene wealth to the detriment of everything and everyone else.

    As you can probably tell, I’m not in favour of it. But if it happened, I don’t think I’d watch it at all. The sheer number of CL games currently plus the cost of BT Sport already turns me off the CL as it is. It’s not like Forest would be there anyway


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    Good post.
    Does anyone else only watch Forest and not any Premier League football?
    I gave up with all that overhyped shit years ago.
    I can barely muster any excitement for England matches now and only watch them in tournaments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Pope View Post
    Good post.
    Does anyone else only watch Forest and not any Premier League football?
    I gave up with all that overhyped shit years ago.
    I can barely muster any excitement for England matches now and only watch them in tournaments.


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    To be honest I haven’t watched the Premier League for about four years.

    I only watch Forest and the Bundesliga regularly, and maybe the odd game from Ligue Un and Italy streamed via DAZN.

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    Nicely weighted back pass by Fred.

    Leics 1 Man U 0

    THE TRUTH IS THERE AND WITH IT I GO TO THE END OF THE WORLD .

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    Default Re: The FA Cup Thread

    Leicester the better side for 90 mins. Comfortable 3-1 win.

    Semis:

    Leicester v Southampton
    Chelsea v Man City


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    Leicester have a great squad and a great manager as well. I hope they win it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rzarecteh View Post
    Leicester have a great squad and a great manager as well. I hope they win it.
    They've good, they're not great Raza

    I hope they don't win it & that Brandon Wodgers fucks off to Spurs or summat


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    Chelsea beat Sheff U, but Forest old boys were out there again. Ben Osborne playing his socks off, McGoldrick missing a virtually open goal at 1-0 and Oliver Burke running around madly to no great effect.


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    It'll be good if Southampton win it. Any of the other three and I'll have probably switched off before the end.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    Leicester the better side for 90 mins. Comfortable 3-1 win.

    Semis:

    Leicester v Southampton
    Chelsea v Man City
    The biggest surprise with that draw is that Chelsea are playing Man City meaning an “unfashionable” club has to get to the final. There will be an inquiry into how that’s happened


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    Quote Originally Posted by redforest View Post
    The biggest surprise with that draw is that Chelsea are playing Man City meaning an “unfashionable” club has to get to the final. There will be an inquiry into how that’s happened
    The draw was made at HT, while Man U were 1-1

    Leicester have ruined the plan for a Manchester cup final


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    I can hear the bin dippers crawling out the woodwork all around me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughton,we have a problem View Post
    I can hear the bin dippers crawling out the woodwork all around me.


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    Yep they’re slime


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    I think we’ll all be Southampton fans for a day


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    They all keep on about the FA Cup being this marvellous old historic competition and they have the draw at ridiculous times, games spread over four days and various times of the day and night and, worst of all, on about four different channels so it's almost impossible to find the games unless you know what is going on beforehand.

    Bit like the Six Nations; that, too, is all over the shop.


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    Chelsea make the Cup Final. They've been in eleven of the previous twenty-six. All of them anti-classics.


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    After all the NHS have done in the past year, they now have to go watch Chelsea versus Leicester. Can't catch a break.


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    I thought it would be a good thing that neither Manchester team or Liverpool are going to win it.


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    Don't think I'll bother watching


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    I don't think this scheduling has anything to do with the funeral or the covid thing, but this semi-final thing illustrates so clearly why the FA Cup is now a minor competition in the whole scheme of things.

    That is, of course, after the preliminary rounds when the proper teams battle for the chance to win a few quid to keep themselves going for a few more months.


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    RIP Alan McLoughlin. Best known for scoring the goal that took Ireland to USA '94.

    Better known to Forest fans for this goal.

    https://youtu.be/feWSgXR2J-w


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    Crossley will be mostly remembered for that unfortunately.


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    Crossley holds the Premier League record for most penalty saves in a season. Modern football fans love a Prem-only record. So he could be remembered for that.


 

 

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