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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-engelos Mindminackers View Post
    Totally agree mate. The fringe-selling is definitely idealistic, but I hope that we're at least giving it a go.

    I don't want us to go "shit or bust", but I think we need to be prepared for potentially going all-in to get us over the line.

    Hopefully it won't come to that, but I'm not against dangerous gambles if they're considered and timed right.
    I think if Worrall does go it will be towards the end of the window. I'd imagine the club's preference is to sell players we don't want rather than cash in on a prized asset, and they'll try to do that first.

    Fingers crossed that we can raise enough money through the sales of Grabban, Lolley, Carvalho and Arter (assuming that Hughton isn't keen on them) to enable us to both keep Joe and strengthen enough in the summer. It very unlikely but stranger things have happened.


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    Problem is, off the back of a whole season with no ticket revenue, I’m not sure there will be much by way of fees at all, apart from sales to PL teams.

    Could go either way for us I suppose. Might mean we can shift some players out on loan easier, or get the likes of Knockaert and Garner back on loan, or could mean that we have to sell Worrall just to get by.

    Also, if EM was ever going to flex his muscles in the market, might be a good time to do it as others without a benefactor reel spending in. I guess only Marinakis knows the plan and our financial situation.


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    It was pleasing to hear Garner commenting on how Joe made sure the team knew the added relevance to last night's game.


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    Joe, Please captain us into the Premier league. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    At what age do "kids" become adults in your eyes? 14/15 or when they are classed as adults by the rest of the world at 18?

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    In footballing terms 18 is a kid, 38 is an old man.


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    Unless you are a keeper than 22 is officially not a kid in footy for me. Over 34 is old for me as well besides keepers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
    Non-parachute payment clubs have gotten promoted without gambling the clubs future though. It will require us to operate in a much smarter manner than we have so far under EM though, and will require us to keep the faith with the current manager for a few years at least.

    Part of the reason we struggle to keep hold of players is our massive wage bill, thanks to our scattergun transfer policy of signing an entire new squad every summer. The club bleeds ludicrous amounts of money paying players who contribute little to nothing.

    Unless we somehow raise enough money from selling fringe players, we won't have much choice but to sell Worrall. It is unlikely we will be able to raise the money we need otherwise, unless we can get another club buying Grabban and Lolley for decent money based on their past reputation or some club is willing to pay mental money for Mighten.

    If we don't raise enough money through sales in the summer, Hughton won't have the funds to rebuild over the summer and we'll tread water anyway. Unless we go the 'shit or bust' route, which is far more likely to land us in League One (or worse) in a few years then see us promoted.

    Going forward, we need to be much smarter in the transfer market; quality over quantity, not signing players we don't need and when we do have to sell (which should hopefully be less often if we don't clog up the wage bill with crap) we need to make sure that money is spent wisely (unlike how we spunked the Matty Cash fee on mostly crap).
    Precisely....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
    I think if Worrall does go it will be towards the end of the window. I'd imagine the club's preference is to sell players we don't want rather than cash in on a prized asset, and they'll try to do that first.

    Fingers crossed that we can raise enough money through the sales of Grabban, Lolley, Carvalho and Arter (assuming that Hughton isn't keen on them) to enable us to both keep Joe and strengthen enough in the summer. It very unlikely but stranger things have happened.
    I'm sorry Ashley but you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think there will be fees of any significance for any of the above.

    Grabban is well past the age where fees apply-hes at the "greatest hits" stage of his career.

    Joe Lolley is a quality player IMO but if the medical issues are to be believed I can't see anyone taking a risk on him, if fees are involved he'll have to pass a medical, which he will fail. Its a huge gamble and my guess is he'll stay here (which I have no problem with)

    Carvalho-we might get a couple of Mill for him if he's done a good job at his loan club but it doesn't sound like his ripped it up in Spain. Sadly I suspect any buying club will know we want shot and will work that angle to reduce the cost. I can see him back with us next year.

    Arter-see Grabban, over 30 with a wasted season under his belt. Frankly he may be beyond his sell by date. I suspect he'll end up at a poorer bottom championship side or in L1. These clubs don't pay much in fees. 500k if we are lucky.

    Sad as it is I'm afraid Worrall is our only saleable asset so unless there is some financial origami from our Greek benefactors or perhaps more likely a pass on FFP due to Covid I think it will come to pass....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
    Non-parachute payment clubs have gotten promoted without gambling the clubs future though. It will require us to operate in a much smarter manner than we have so far under EM though, and will require us to keep the faith with the current manager for a few years at least.

    Part of the reason we struggle to keep hold of players is our massive wage bill, thanks to our scattergun transfer policy of signing an entire new squad every summer. The club bleeds ludicrous amounts of money paying players who contribute little to nothing.

    Unless we somehow raise enough money from selling fringe players, we won't have much choice but to sell Worrall. It is unlikely we will be able to raise the money we need otherwise, unless we can get another club buying Grabban and Lolley for decent money based on their past reputation or some club is willing to pay mental money for Mighten.

    If we don't raise enough money through sales in the summer, Hughton won't have the funds to rebuild over the summer and we'll tread water anyway. Unless we go the 'shit or bust' route, which is far more likely to land us in League One (or worse) in a few years then see us promoted.

    Going forward, we need to be much smarter in the transfer market; quality over quantity, not signing players we don't need and when we do have to sell (which should hopefully be less often if we don't clog up the wage bill with crap) we need to make sure that money is spent wisely (unlike how we spunked the Matty Cash fee on mostly crap).
    Precisely....


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    Precisely....
    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    I'm sorry Ashley but you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think there will be fees of any significance for any of the above.

    Grabban is well past the age where fees apply-hes at the "greatest hits" stage of his career.

    Joe Lolley is a quality player IMO but if the medical issues are to be believed I can't see anyone taking a risk on him, if fees are involved he'll have to pass a medical, which he will fail. Its a huge gamble and my guess is he'll stay here (which I have no problem with)

    Carvalho-we might get a couple of Mill for him if he's done a good job at his loan club but it doesn't sound like his ripped it up in Spain. Sadly I suspect any buying club will know we want shot and will work that angle to reduce the cost. I can see him back with us next year.

    Arter-see Grabban, over 30 with a wasted season under his belt. Frankly he may be beyond his sell by date. I suspect he'll end up at a poorer bottom championship side or in L1. These clubs don't pay much in fees. 500k if we are lucky.

    Sad as it is I'm afraid Worrall is our only saleable asset so unless there is some financial origami from our Greek benefactors or perhaps more likely a pass on FFP due to Covid I think it will come to pass....
    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    Precisely....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    Can you say that again please mate for us at the back? We didn't catch it
    Yes if you like....


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    Quote Originally Posted by marshal99 View Post
    The picture of Worrall trying to fit into his Mini reminded me of a basketball legend of ours, Panagiotis Fasoulas, who had a Fiat 500 when he was young, had ripped off the front seat and drove from the back.

    His height was 2.13.

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    All this talk of Joe being sold; is there any actual evidence that Forest intend to sell him or that Joe actually wants to leave? At 24 he is still not at his peak and probably hopes he’ll reach his peak by leading Forest to promotion next season when financial pickings will be far greater ��


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    Did he crack his rib getting in to his car?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    The picture of Worrall trying to fit into his Mini reminded me of a basketball legend of ours, Panagiotis Fasoulas, who had a Fiat 500 when he was young, had ripped off the front seat and drove from the back.

    His height was 2.13.
    Reminds me of an Aunt of mine who took her driving test in the late 40s in an Austin 7. The examiner got into the front seat which promptly collapsed, so they took the seat out and she took her test with the examiner sitting in the back seat! She passed.

    Different times and it was in rural Norfolk.


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    I thought it was a decent watch and nice insight. You can see the likes of Joe and Yates care more about the club. That's not to say that the rest don't, but it's just naturally going to mean more to these guys who have been around the place a long time


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    If I was treated like that, the club would mean alot more to me too.

    Interesting Joe had that down as a "tough day".

    Fucking hell these players wouldnt last two minutes in a real job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MASE View Post
    If I was treated like that, the club would mean alot more to me too.

    Interesting Joe had that down as a "tough day".

    Fucking hell these players wouldnt last two minutes in a real job.
    It looked like a dream to me. I love keeping fit but struggle for time with job and kid etc..

    Sauntering in, having your breakfast made for you. Pissing about with your mates for a bit, few hours of training, all the facilities. Any niggles seen to straight away by trained medical staff rather than collecting niggle upon niggle and never having the time or money to get them sorted.

    Then having your dinner made and disappearing off to your mansion to play PlayStation the rest of the day.

    Anyway I like Joe and he comes across well and I did enjoy the video.


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    Quote Originally Posted by justnotjase View Post
    I thought it was a decent watch and nice insight. You can see the likes of Joe and Yates care more about the club. That's not to say that the rest don't, but it's just naturally going to mean more to these guys who have been around the place a long time
    Dawson always comes across as a great character. Hopefully he sticks around the club in a coaching capacity.


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    Steve Sidwell!


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    Quote Originally Posted by valspoodle View Post
    Reminds me of an Aunt of mine who took her driving test in the late 40s in an Austin 7. The examiner got into the front seat which promptly collapsed, so they took the seat out and she took her test with the examiner sitting in the back seat! She passed.

    Different times and it was in rural Norfolk.
    Brilliant.

    My ex sister in law, ran a woman over in Ticknall, whilst taking her driving test back in 1984. She passed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by redforest View Post
    All this talk of Joe being sold; is there any actual evidence that Forest intend to sell him or that Joe actually wants to leave? At 24 he is still not at his peak and probably hopes he’ll reach his peak by leading Forest to promotion next season when financial pickings will be far greater ��
    He won't leave, he loves the club and would be happier captaining us. If it was the club forcing it then somebody like Mighten will go instead. This ownership have only sold Matty Cash that is a key player and that was always gonna happen.

    All he did at Rangers was talk about coming back to play for Forest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MASE View Post
    Interesting Joe had that down as a "tough day".
    Was my first thought as well! Awake at 08:15, oh the horror.

    Nice to see Yates gets in an hour early. He may not be the most naturally gifted player but he's going to make it through determination to succeed. They get slated but those players are important to have on the pitch and in the dressing room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    Was my first thought as well! Awake at 08:15, oh the horror.

    Nice to see Yates gets in an hour early. He may not be the most naturally gifted player but he's going to make it through determination to succeed. They get slated but those players are important to have on the pitch and in the dressing room.
    Putting that extra effort in is how those supposed „bang average“ players excel and improve.

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