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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    That's why they're in a catch 22 situation now. Any decent business person would wait to see the punishment for the amortisation thing and for them to go into admin which pretty much confirms their relegation... Any business person who wouldn't is an idiot and would be a shit football club owner.
    Hence Gabay, Fake Sheikh and Alonso. Derby are fucked.


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    "NOW LISTEN HERE BOY! YEAH I'M A TALKIN' TO YOU KID! THE CHICKENS, I SAY CHICKENS ARE COMIN' HOME TO ROOST!"

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    Maybe Kim Jong-un will come in and really test the EFLs 'fit and proper person' regs.

    'Your imperial majesty, who will be manager next season?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockabilly View Post


    "NOW LISTEN HERE BOY! YEAH I'M A TALKIN' TO YOU! THE CHICKENS, I SAY CHICKENS ARE COMIN' HOME TO ROOST!"
    That is Brill can I nick it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by forestzoe View Post
    That is Brill can I nick it?

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    Cf course you can.


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    The more shaggers that see it the better


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    Quote Originally Posted by rockabilly View Post


    "NOW LISTEN HERE BOY! YEAH I'M A TALKIN' TO YOU KID! THE CHICKENS, I SAY CHICKENS ARE COMIN' HOME TO ROOST!"


    "ASHLEY! I SAY OUR ASHLEY, WE'VE GOT A NICE PEICE OF LAMB, I SAY WE'VE GOT A PIECE OF LAMB FOR OUR TEA!"


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    I walked past my local chippy today, it's up for sale. I'll put money on it selling before wayne Rooney's derby lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagman View Post
    So that'll be administration next month then....
    Isn't the administration penalty 12 points or 20? I mean it's not so much a rock and hard place for derby, either admin or Perpetual mel with all the ramifications that brings


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    What are the chances of the following. EFL find Derby in breach of FFP and deduct them points sending them down and rescuing Wycombe.

    In League One, Derby then go into administration to wipe off debt and attract a buyer, incurring an additional 12 or deduction to start the season in the 3rd tier?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy the snake View Post
    Isn't the administration penalty 12 points or 20? I mean it's not so much a rock and hard place for derby, either admin or Perpetual mel with all the ramifications that brings
    Administration is 12 points on its own.

    Of course, if the EFL decides to levy a points penalty on the sheep for their Player-valuation financial shenanigans, that would be in addition to any set-penalty for administration.

    So, conceivably, even if they manage to dodge a retrospective points penalty for this season, if they are forced into admin (or go into admin themselves) then any EFL points penalty would be added to a deduction for administration.

    It is not therefore inconceivable they could start next season on something like -18 points.

    As Clarkson would say:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr RayReardon View Post
    What are the chances of the following. EFL find Derby in breach of FFP and deduct them points sending them down and rescuing Wycombe.

    In League One, Derby then go into administration to wipe off debt and attract a buyer, incurring an additional 12 or deduction to start the season in the 3rd tier?...

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    See above post, it’s possible but probably unlikely given the potential legal challenges.

    In all truth, the EFL finding that Derby enjoyed an illegal financial advantage between 2015-2018 means that really, they should be docked points this season, which would relegate them.

    Then, given their finances, administration is not unlikely, so they might well start in League One on -12 points.

    However, given the EFL have the backbone of a jellyfish, I could foresee a deduction of maybe 6 points for the start of next season; but if they go into admin, they’d get another 12, but they’d still be in the Championship.


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    Lol Their valuation went from
    60mill in Jan... definitely no administration

    50 mill in March...dead cert

    40 mill now for an American consortium

    To me....fucking priceless ��


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    See above post, it’s possible but probably unlikely given the potential legal challenges.

    In all truth, the EFL finding that Derby enjoyed an illegal financial advantage between 2015-2018 means that really, they should be docked points this season, which would relegate them.

    Then, given their finances, administration is not unlikely, so they might well start in League One on -12 points.

    However, given the EFL have the backbone of a jellyfish, I could foresee a deduction of maybe 6 points for the start of next season; but if they go into admin, they’d get another 12, but they’d still be in the Championship.
    Yep, cheers for confirming.

    Given their squad is crap, their manager has the intellectual capacity of a Paleolithic man and they have zero money to re shake things this season it might be in their benefit to take the hit and go down. Without serious reinforcements, a 12, potentially 18 point deduction will almost certainly relegate them next season.

    It's a shame the clubs are in messes like these but, well, we've had very little to enjoy for 15 months so....

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    The thing is, what’s going to hurt them financially is the valuation of DCFC, which is - frankly - fuck all, because they’re paying significantly over 100% of that company’s turnover in wages, and that company’s only assets - the players - aren’t worth much.

    The shifty way Morris sold the ground to another company would have worked (in a kind of Scooby Doo villain way) if they’d have gotten promoted.

    They didn’t. So, now, they’re looking at a commercial enterprise that turns over around £29m a year, but crucially more than that goes out on wages, and they have precious few assets (because the ground is owned by Mel Morris).

    So, any prospective purchaser is going to have to pay for not only the holding company of the football club (and that does have an intrinsic value, as it owns the golden share of league membership) but they’d also have to try to buy out Morris‘s company that owns the ground - a ground, remember, he valued at £81m when he sold it to himself.

    Even if Morris were willing to take a haircut to be rid of the football club (maybe give it away for £1, like Chelsea went for, back in the day), if you’re Morris, you sit on the investment in the stadium and extract a fat rent.

    Sometimes that works, sometimes it does not (see Coventry City for one example).

    The problem is for any prospective new owner is that you’re paying potentially £40m and getting a scraggy group of players and that’s it. There are ver few other tangible assets that have value.

    Unless of course you get promoted, with the guaranteed £100-200m that brings. But, if the club gets a points deduction, then you’re going to struggle to get anywhere near promotion.


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    Subject: The glorious Derby
    Date: Fri 14th may 2021
    From: Padilia421@bankofbuntutu.com
    To: Melthepuppetmaster@derbyfootball.com

    Dear friend,

    I am Mrs Padawa Mutusi, one of the wives of the Late Primeminister Winston Nelson Mutusi of the Democratic Region of Buntu.

    After the poisoning of my husband, I am in possession of $75,000,000 dollars, being funds earmarked for speciality project. This has been deposited in the most secure and trusted bank of our wonderful nation, where I live with my children.
    We want to buy the footballing club, players and King Rooney with understanding you home us in Chad.

    A most generous offer we look to hear soon.

    Padawa

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    Seems legit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Penguin View Post
    Subject: The glorious Derby
    Date: Fri 14th may 2021
    From: Padilia421@bankofbuntutu.com
    To: Melthepuppetmaster@derbyfootball.com

    Dear friend,

    I am Mrs Padawa Mutusi, one of the wives of the Late Primeminister Winston Nelson Mutusi of the Democratic Region of Buntu.

    After the poisoning of my husband, I am in possession of $75,000,000 dollars, being funds earmarked for speciality project. This has been deposited in the most secure and trusted bank of our wonderful nation, where I live with my children.
    We want to buy the footballing club, players and King Rooney with understanding you home us in Chad.

    A most generous offer we look to hear soon.

    Padawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rzarecteh View Post
    Almost every club in this division is unsustainable & a poor investment but most will still find buyers. The problem for them Admin is pretty much the only option if they wanna sell.

    You add in they don't own their stadium anymore, the short term legal battles, almost non-existent playing squad & financial mess they find themselves in (how many more "clever" accoutnancy tricks have they done?).

    Why would any reasonable human buy that club apart from at a cut rate price?
    You have look at the assets or brand of derby county. Joking aside it genuinely isn't a very popular club. Mention derby abroad and nobody knows what is is, where it is. There's no brand, just a pile of liability in a very high risk buisness. Of course all clubs share the same problem but what assets are liquid and tangible? Nothing


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    All looks good to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    The thing is, what’s going to hurt them financially is the valuation of DCFC, which is - frankly - fuck all, because they’re paying significantly over 100% of that company’s turnover in wages, and that company’s only assets - the players - aren’t worth much.

    The shifty way Morris sold the ground to another company would have worked (in a kind of Scooby Doo villain way) if they’d have gotten promoted.

    They didn’t. So, now, they’re looking at a commercial enterprise that turns over around £29m a year, but crucially more than that goes out on wages, and they have precious few assets (because the ground is owned by Mel Morris).

    So, any prospective purchaser is going to have to pay for not only the holding company of the football club (and that does have an intrinsic value, as it owns the golden share of league membership) but they’d also have to try to buy out Morris‘s company that owns the ground - a ground, remember, he valued at £81m when he sold it to himself.

    Even if Morris were willing to take a haircut to be rid of the football club (maybe give it away for £1, like Chelsea went for, back in the day), if you’re Morris, you sit on the investment in the stadium and extract a fat rent.

    Sometimes that works, sometimes it does not (see Coventry City for one example).

    The problem is for any prospective new owner is that you’re paying potentially £40m and getting a scraggy group of players and that’s it. There are ver few other tangible assets that have value.

    Unless of course you get promoted, with the guaranteed £100-200m that brings. But, if the club gets a points deduction, then you’re going to struggle to get anywhere near promotion.
    That is an excellent post. However, it does come down to Morris’s intentions - which nobody but him will know.

    For instance, he may sell the stadium to any new buyer for a much lower figure than the £81m he bought it for. We don’t know. He could be happy to wear the loss as the price of his exit.

    He could also keep the stadium and extort rent from the football club in perpetuity (or until they got to the premier league... so perpetuity is more accurate). We don’t know this either.

    If DCFC sells for £1 after administration and he sells the stadium for let’s say £20m? All of a sudden any new owner has a reasonable chance, in either league and with points deductions. Not immediately but there is a chance.

    I suppose it comes down to how Morris wants to play it, how desperate he is to get out, and how much of a haircut he can take during exit. The bald twat.

    What is obvious is that DCFC in its current form with its current financials is a toxic investment. So administration you would think is a foregone conclusion, whether shortly or in a year.

    I hope they get the EFL stuff for the 2015-18 period this year to send them down, then a -12 penalty for administration next year in league one. But I think they will get -6 next season, and -12 next summer, at which point Morris leaves and someone else comes in. Even then, I can’t see how a buyer can repurchase Pride Park for DCFC in one transaction, I think the ground and the club will have to remain separate entities unless and until DCFC become profitable enough to buy it from turnover. So that’s another risk they face.

    But again, it is 100% up to that bald twat and how he wants to play it.


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    "The bald twat".


 

 

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