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    Ahem; with apologies to George Harrison:

    1, 2, 3, 4Ö.

    Let me tell you sheep, how it will be
    There's one for you, nineteen for me
    Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

    Should 5p in the pound appear too small
    Be thankful I don't take it all
    Cos I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

    If you own a ground, I'll tax the street
    If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat
    If you want a player, I'll tax his feet
    If you try to dodge, I'll have you beat

    Taxman!
    Cos I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

    Don't ask me what I want it for (Aahh Mr. Morris)
    If you don't want to pay some more (Aahh Mr. Rooney)
    Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

    Now my advice for clubs who die
    Declare the pennies on your eyes
    Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

    And you're working for no one but me
    Taxman!


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    Default Re: The demise of Wayne Rooney's D***y County (in Administration)

    How about a bit of Mel-tacllica? (someone should photoshop that cover!)




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    We could make a playlist just from Fleetwood Mac tracks and in this order:
    Little lies, Shake your money maker, Go your own way, Landslide, Never going back again, oh well

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    Dear Mel

    I have just paid HMRC north of 40k for VAT and PAYE

    Thatís how you do it . I knew the bills were due so I paid them

    I didnít keep the money to try and screw an unfair competitive advantage over my competitors , I paid it up, on time and in full.

    And I pay my suppliers on time too, they all have bills to pay, including wages for their staff so they can keep the wolf from the door, I donít pay them late so I can try and screw my competitors over with an unfair advantage.

    I may not be as wealthy as you but I sure as fuck can look myself in the mirror every morning. And I dont own a shit football team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by adam09 View Post
    How about a bit of Mel-tacllica? (someone should photoshop that cover!)
    Challenge accepted.



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    I see the agent spin is already in full flow with reports of Premiership and top level Championship interest in Tom Lawrence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughton,we have a problem View Post
    Dear Mel

    I have just paid HMRC north of 40k for VAT and PAYE

    That’s how you do it . I knew the bills were due so I paid them

    I didn’t keep the money to try and screw an unfair competitive advantage over my competitors , I paid it up, on time and in full.

    And I pay my suppliers on time too, they all have bills to pay, including wages for their staff so they can keep the wolf from the door, I don’t pay them late so I can try and screw my competitors over with an unfair advantage.

    I may not be as wealthy as you but I sure as fuck can look myself in the mirror every morning. And I dont own a shit football team.


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    You may be misunderstanding things though. Derby is a special case and deserves different rules according to their supporters. In the normal world tax evasion is a criminal offence...not in Derby.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy the snake View Post
    You may be misunderstanding things though. Derby is a special case and deserves different rules according to their supporters. In the normal world tax evasion is a criminal offence...not in Derby.
    Thatís libellous
    They havenít evaded tax
    They declared it and knew they owed it and then went and spent it elsewhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy the snake View Post
    In the normal world tax evasion and incest are criminal offences...not in Derby. They're past times
    FTFY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughton,we have a problem View Post
    That’s libellous
    They haven’t evaded tax
    They declared it and knew they owed it and then went and spent it elsewhere.


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    evasion


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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy the snake View Post
    evasion
    No

    Evasion is stopping the imposition of taxes from by moving money around.
    I doubt Mel is daft enough to try that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughton,we have a problem View Post
    No

    Evasion is stopping the imposition of taxes from by moving money around.
    I doubt Mel is daft enough to try that.


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    In case he forgot where he'd moved it too?


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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm Red Till Dead View Post
    In case he forgot where he'd moved it too?
    Well, he certainly hadn't moved it into the HMRC's bank account.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughton,we have a problem View Post
    And I dont own a shit football team.


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    Neither does he any more

    He does own an £80m stadium though, so thereís always thatÖ.


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    Derby Christmas Card

    Oh FFS.

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    The HMRC debate is rolling on with the baa lambs tonight. They are actually now in agreement that HMRC will not make any exceptions for them as all clubs in trouble would look to strike a deal in the future.

    Well when I say all in agreement I should say nearly all. Our friend Pistoldpete isn't having it at all. He's still confident they'll strike a deal.


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    Default Re: The demise of Wayne Rooney's D***y County (in Administration)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hughton,we have a problem View Post
    No

    Evasion is stopping the imposition of taxes from by moving money around.
    I doubt Mel is daft enough to try that.


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    'Misappropriation of funds' might be the phrase you are looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by football post View Post
    The HMRC debate is rolling on with the baa lambs tonight. They are actually now in agreement that HMRC will not make any exceptions for them as all clubs in trouble would look to strike a deal in the future.

    Well when I say all in agreement I should say nearly all. Our friend Pistoldpete isn't having it at all. He's still confident they'll strike a deal.
    Pistoldpete has a level of optimism relating to dealing with HMRC that even Harry Redknapp would find excessive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by football post View Post
    The HMRC debate is rolling on with the baa lambs tonight. They are actually now in agreement that HMRC will not make any exceptions for them as all clubs in trouble would look to strike a deal in the future.

    Well when I say all in agreement I should say nearly all. Our friend Pistoldpete isn't having it at all. He's still confident they'll strike a deal.
    I've just been on there myself, PistoldPete is like a dog with a bone.


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    One of them on there ("SBW" - which one of you on here is it?!) is trying to explain the situation to PisspantsPete in a surprisingly rational way!

    He's having none of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughton,we have a problem View Post
    Dear Mel

    I have just paid HMRC north of 40k for VAT and PAYE

    Thatís how you do it . I knew the bills were due so I paid them

    I didnít keep the money to try and screw an unfair competitive advantage over my competitors , I paid it up, on time and in full.

    And I pay my suppliers on time too, they all have bills to pay, including wages for their staff so they can keep the wolf from the door, I donít pay them late so I can try and screw my competitors over with an unfair advantage.

    I may not be as wealthy as you but I sure as fuck can look myself in the mirror every morning. And I dont own a shit football team.


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    You 100% never had the chance to have Martyn Waghorn as an employee so can't compare... imagine having Martyn in your warehouse or running your website.. got to be worth missing a few silly tax bills for for all the money he could make you?

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    Some of them still think that a new manager could just throw money about to get back up from League 1. Some have realised that they will be under tight constraints for two years because they went into admin. I don't think any of them understand that there wage bill will be linked to their turnover and will be closely monitored by the EFL regardless of the admin situation.

    I thought of setting up an account Red In Peace and post this link - http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php explaining it, but thought the initials might upset them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm Red Till Dead View Post
    Some of them still think that a new manager could just throw money about to get back up from League 1. Some have realised that they will be under tight constraints for two years because they went into admin. I don't think any of them understand that there wage bill will be linked to their turnover and will be closely monitored by the EFL regardless of the admin situation.

    I thought of setting up an account Red In Peace and post this link - http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php explaining it, but thought the initials might upset them.
    I'm sure all of that will need to be included in the financial forecast any prospective number owner needs to submit to the EFL as part of the fit and proper test.

    The problem they have is that's pretty much impossible with so much uncertainty still lingering as to what the financial situation will be when they take over. I'm surprised the EFL haven't told Boro & Wycombe to do one yet as their claims will no doubt get thrown out as some point. Looks like HMRC are digging heels in so that would have to be some sort of payment plan spread over years. Then they have a CVA to look at if they ever come out of admin.

    The wages at 60% of turnover is a max in League 1. Derby would be forced into signing up to a much lower % until debts paid. It's a mess, one I'm surprised anyone is still looking to buy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trents View Post
    I'm sure all of that will need to be included in the financial forecast any prospective number owner needs to submit to the EFL as part of the fit and proper test.

    The problem they have is that's pretty much impossible with so much uncertainty still lingering as to what the financial situation will be when they take over. I'm surprised the EFL haven't told Boro & Wycombe to do one yet as their claims will no doubt get thrown out as some point. Looks like HMRC are digging heels in so that would have to be some sort of payment plan spread over years. Then they have a CVA to look at if they ever come out of admin.

    The wages at 60% of turnover is a max in League 1. Derby would be forced into signing up to a much lower % until debts paid. It's a mess, one I'm surprised anyone is still looking to buy.
    I doubt anyone bus seriously looking to buy. As someone that works in the industry, I've said right from the outset that it's highly likely that they will be liquidated. Nothing has changed my mind since then and details emerging since have only strengthened that position.

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