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  1. #3751
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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Quote Originally Posted by puds1970 View Post
    I personally don't think Britts replacement is at the club atm.
    Talk of Velios, Cummings or Brereton replacing his goals are a big gamble to me esp for a club that stayed up by the skin of their teeth.
    Velios would be gone for me anyway. I know it probably won't be popular but for me he's not for us.


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    It's quite right to say that relying on Cummings, BB, Clough etc is a gamble. But so was relying on Britt. Any side that relies excessively on one player is just a single injury away from a crisis. We saw that with Britt: one split second and his season is gone.
    It's obvious, surely, that Warburton is trying to build a team ethic in which we'll play the same way regardless of which members of the squad are fit and picked. That's the road to consistency. It will take time to create such a squad but it's absolutely the right path to be on.
    The key piece of recruitment in that regard will be on-field leaders. Our dreadful record of losing games from winning positions and our hopeless game management come down to a lack of leadership on the field. Cohen and Vaughan can no longer impose themselves on games enough to lead by example. We need to recruit , not soldiers, but officers.

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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCarey View Post
    It's quite right to say that relying on Cummings, BB, Clough etc is a gamble. But so was relying on Britt. Any side that relies excessively on one player is just a single injury away from a crisis. We saw that with Britt: one split second and his season is gone.
    It's obvious, surely, that Warburton is trying to build a team ethic in which we'll play the same way regardless of which members of the squad are fit and picked. That's the road to consistency. It will take time to create such a squad but it's absolutely the right path to be on.
    The key piece of recruitment in that regard will be on-field leaders. Our dreadful record of losing games from winning positions and our hopeless game management come down to a lack of leadership on the field. Cohen and Vaughan can no longer impose themselves on games enough to lead by example. We need to recruit , not soldiers, but officers.
    Spot on.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Gutted to lose a man who I was always confident would find the scoresheet when his name was on the team sheet, however the silver lining for me is that the sale has happened before the season has started so hopefully won't disrupt the season plans too much. Chris Cohen says Warburton is the most organised man he's ever met so I'm sure he would have prepared for this possibility anyway.

    Maybe he already had an idea having spoken with Britt at the end of season and that's why Cummings was brought in quite early in the summer?

    If Cummings steps up to the plate and starts delivering with Brereton, then we can safely say it didn't have the same shock impact as losing Oliver Burke suddenly, when the season was in full swing and he's looking like our most dangerous weapon, without any plan in place.

    Let's wait for the plan. Warburton is a very organised and methodical man and the owner appears to be the same. I'm trusting them.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCarey View Post
    It's quite right to say that relying on Cummings, BB, Clough etc is a gamble. But so was relying on Britt. Any side that relies excessively on one player is just a single injury away from a crisis. We saw that with Britt: one split second and his season is gone.
    It's obvious, surely, that Warburton is trying to build a team ethic in which we'll play the same way regardless of which members of the squad are fit and picked. That's the road to consistency. It will take time to create such a squad but it's absolutely the right path to be on.
    The key piece of recruitment in that regard will be on-field leaders. Our dreadful record of losing games from winning positions and our hopeless game management come down to a lack of leadership on the field. Cohen and Vaughan can no longer impose themselves on games enough to lead by example. We need to recruit , not soldiers, but officers.
    That's a brilliant post.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCarey View Post
    It's quite right to say that relying on Cummings, BB, Clough etc is a gamble. But so was relying on Britt. Any side that relies excessively on one player is just a single injury away from a crisis. We saw that with Britt: one split second and his season is gone.
    It's obvious, surely, that Warburton is trying to build a team ethic in which we'll play the same way regardless of which members of the squad are fit and picked. That's the road to consistency. It will take time to create such a squad but it's absolutely the right path to be on.
    The key piece of recruitment in that regard will be on-field leaders. Our dreadful record of losing games from winning positions and our hopeless game management come down to a lack of leadership on the field. Cohen and Vaughan can no longer impose themselves on games enough to lead by example. We need to recruit , not soldiers, but officers.
    Quality


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Johnny@s post is what we all HOPE happens. Personally, I believe we'll be in trouble unless we make some significant signings. The players to push the team on are not in the squad atm.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    You could also argue that at one stage we were relying heavily on Antonio, and when he departed it left us very bare on the attacking front. Were we relying on Burke when he was sold last summer? I think we'd put a LOT of expectation on his shoulders, and when he was sold we were all left wondering, ok what next?
    We need a team of contributors and a team that link together well and compliment each other's style of play.

    Cummings is very much a question mark at the moment, but for all we know we have a 15/20 goal a season striker in our possession.
    Then of course there's one of England's brightest prospects fresh off an under 19 European Championship victory, hungry to prove himself in the league.

    The sale of Britt, let's face it, we all saw coming so it's not surprise, and the money we generated in exchange is more than generous. Nobody can grumble at the £15m fee.
    It's not what we do with it that's the important thing. We actually have a proper scouting team set in place now as well as the correct people with the knowledge to strengthen our weakest areas.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    You all have to remember Warburton is/was an investment banker. He's literally the pinnacle of buy low, sell high and improve overall performance/reduce risk through diversification.

    I bet you he's delighted we got 15m for Britt, rather than wishing the guy would have stayed.

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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Whatever happens guys we must stay calm and give the management team a chance to sort this out,i will never forget the way Britt react.
    ed when Lansbury and him had the spat over that penalty


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran View Post
    You could also argue that at one stage we were relying heavily on Antonio, and when he departed it left us very bare on the attacking front. Were we relying on Burke when he was sold last summer? I think we'd put a LOT of expectation on his shoulders, and when he was sold we were all left wondering, ok what next?
    We need a team of contributors and a team that link together well and compliment each other's style of play.

    Cummings is very much a question mark at the moment, but for all we nknow we have a 15/20 goal a season striker in our possession.
    Then of course there's one of England's brightest prospects fresh off an under 19 European Championship victory, hungry to prove himself in the league.

    The sale of Britt, let's face it, we all saw coming so it's not surprise, and the money we generated in exchange is more than generous. Nobody can grumble at the £15m fee.
    It's not what we do with it that's the important thing. We actually have a proper scouting team set in place now as well as the correct people with the knowledge to strengthen our weakest areas.



    Antonio's departure still left us with Burke, Olivera, Lansbury, Paterson (who we chose to loan out), Williams etc. We just chose not to play them either in attacking positions/formations or at all because Dougie was a wank manager.





    Had you given the post Antonio squad to a decent manager we'd have been fine. We had a manager not capable/intent of making attack work, not a lack of attacking options.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    You all have to remember Warburton is/was an investment banker. He's literally the pinnacle of buy low, sell high and improve overall performance/reduce risk through diversification.

    I bet you he's delighted we got 15m for Britt, rather than wishing the guy would have stayed.

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    Even more importantly I bet he is delighted to get it done in mid July.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    15 mill is a great price considering how often he plays.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    We stayed up by the skin of our teeth because we let in 70+ goals not because Britt scored a few. Is there any reason to say Velios or Brereton won't get 10-15 goals with more games? Plus we now have Clough, Cummings, McKay and hopefully Osborn and Cash can chip in with a few.

    If we can have a solid base, it gives more freedom for midfielders and full backs to attack and for goals to be spread around. We got caught on the break no end of times last season. It's no wonder players like Osborn don't score many, they spend the majority of most games defending near their own corner flag. Give Warburton time to adjust these things in our favour.

    It's similar to where we were before Britt and Antonio came in where we were average but needed the extra bit of quality and obviously injuries killed that. Now we have quality up front but need the talent behind and in the middle especially.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    Yes, but the statement clearly implies that the club could have said no. If a release clause was met, it could certainly not.
    Quote Originally Posted by It's Baggio View Post
    Arsenal/Suarez/Liverpool
    Can you explain this to a Greek?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Googler View Post
    Whatever happens guys we must stay calm and give the management team a chance to sort this out...
    Fuck that, it's time to PANIC!!

    AAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!

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    „Don't forget you're alive. 'Cause sometimes when you walk around the city and you're in a bad mood, you can think, hey, wait a minute, we're alive! We don't know what the next second will bring and what a fantastic thing this is. This can get easily forgotten in the routine of life, and that's something I'm trying to bring to my attention at all times. Don't forget you're alive. We're not dead, you know. This is the greatest thing.”

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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Quote Originally Posted by adam09 View Post
    We stayed up by the skin of our teeth because we let in 70+ goals not because Britt scored a few. Is there any reason to say Velios or Brereton won't get 10-15 goals with more games? Plus we now have Clough, Cummings, McKay and hopefully Osborn and Cash can chip in with a few.

    If we can have a solid base, it gives more freedom for midfielders and full backs to attack and for goals to be spread around. We got caught on the break no end of times last season. It's no wonder players like Osborn don't score many, they spend the majority of most games defending near their own corner flag. Give Warburton time to adjust these things in our favour.

    It's similar to where we were before Britt and Antonio came in where we were average but needed the extra bit of quality and obviously injuries killed that. Now we have quality up front but need the talent behind and in the middle especially.
    Another cracking post, definitely seems everyones settling on the positives that will emanate from the sale of Assombalonga.

    Gives us the funds to become a proper football team under a thoroughly decent manager.

    Grate point on Benny too, he definitely gets dragged all round the park defending for some of the more physically challenged players in the side.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    Can you explain this to a Greek?
    When Suarez was at Liverpool Arsenal allegedly bid £40,000,001 to activate his £40m release clause. Liverpool told them to piss off.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    It seems as though the move to Middlesboro was led by God no less.

    Does he have a twitter account?


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    Quote Originally Posted by J'Psycho'C66 View Post
    When Suarez was at Liverpool Arsenal allegedly bid £40,000,001 to activate his £40m release clause. Liverpool told them to piss off.
    I still don't understand. Release clauses are supposed to work independently of the wishes of the club owning the player. If Suarez did indeed have a release clause of 40m, then Arsenal could put the 40m bid on Liverpool's table and tell them to shut up and wrap up the player please, I'll take him with me as I go through this door.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Quote Originally Posted by the mask of zorro View Post
    It seems as though the move to Middlesboro was led by God no less.

    Does he have a twitter account?
    I bet he doesn't like Nirvana either.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    I still don't understand. Release clauses are supposed to work independently of the wishes of the club owning the player. If Suarez did indeed have a release clause of 40m, then Arsenal could put the 40m bid on Liverpool's table and tell them to shut up and wrap up the player please, I'll take him with me as I go through this door.
    Yeah I know. I don't think it was true anyway because Suarez ended up going for a lot more than £40m to Barca.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Here it says that Wenger was misinformed and that there was no release clause.

    Here (same papers three years before) it says that there was a release clause and that Liverpool's denial was more or less illegal.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Hard to see where 15 goals will come from at the moment, however I'm confident that this does represent good business when you consider MW is building a capable squad rather than a few capable players.
    A gamble for sure, but what choice do the club have? At least he leaves the club with his credibility in fact, the way he's conducted himself, even throughout some criticisms from fans has been great. Losing a professional is a shame.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    Unhappy to see him go, but that is a lot of money. I wish him well at Boro.


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    Default Re: Britt Curtis Assombalonga

    I am sorry to see him go, I do not wish him any ill will now he has moved on, I also could not give a toss if he does well. Not a Forest player any more.

    The only time him playing football that I will look out for him is when he plays agiainst Forest or I will raise a glass if he scores the winner against the sheep.


 

 

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