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    Default Re: The Big BREXIT discussion!

    Or that octopus sort. They have their fingers in many pies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    Or that octopus sort. They have their fingers in many pies.
    Inky bastards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phooey View Post
    When we joined the EU we had some of the best fish stocks in the world but that quickly vanished as the mainland Europe fishing fleets moved in and we ended up having our waters over-fished. You then have quotas being applied which hit the UK fishing industry hard and then those quotas being handed out equally to applicants so you have foreign boat owners registering in the UK even though they don't come anywhere near the mainland.

    The thing is though that if we hadn't been in the EU the same things would have happened anyway, we would have overfished the waters ourselves if there had been a market for the fish caught and foreign boat owners could have gotten around the restrictions.
    I would just add, that one of the agreements the U.K. made to join the (then) Common Market was to open up U.K. waters to other European countries‘ fishing fleets, which in previous years was never really a „thing“.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phooey View Post
    When we joined the EU we had some of the best fish stocks in the world but that quickly vanished as the mainland Europe fishing fleets moved in and we ended up having our waters over-fished. You then have quotas being applied which hit the UK fishing industry hard and then those quotas being handed out equally to applicants so you have foreign boat owners registering in the UK even though they don't come anywhere near the mainland.

    The thing is though that if we hadn't been in the EU the same things would have happened anyway, we would have overfished the waters ourselves if there had been a market for the fish caught and foreign boat owners could have gotten around the restrictions.
    I learned about EU fishing law at some point (can’t remember if it was A-Level politics or EU Law module) but all I can remember from it was that it was a fucking mess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob1965 View Post
    But how do we know if they are British fish and not EU imigrant fish?

    Coming over here eating all our plankton...
    Blue fish passports.

    Have you not been paying attention at all ?


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    I'll be happy to say british fish for British people but we don't eat much of what's in our waters. We export it or sell our quotas to foriegn boats anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD. View Post
    Blue fish passports.

    Have you not been paying attention at all ?
    Yes of course, what was I thinking?


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    Trade deal with Antarctica to be announced today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo View Post
    Trade deal with Antarctica to be announced today.
    Looks like international relations are starting to thaw now we're out of the icy clutches of Brussels

    EXACT SAME BENEFITS

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    This is the kind of delusional fantasy that fuels a false prospect of the post brexit uplands.



    I'm sure there's value in fish processing waste if you can extract it.

    But short of some kind of magic, there is no waste from any product that can act as an industrial multiplier to increase the value of the primary sector by even double let alone by some order of magnitude.

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    If Hull and Grimsby can be reborn as Pharma hubs (and the word if is doing a lot of heavy lifting there), then perhaps the Vote Leave government should have spent the past 4.5 years building up both locations to do so, putting in place infrastructure around transport, training for local residents.

    Also, if you want to run specialised businesses, it kind of helps not to cut them off from a market of 500 million people, either as trade or as potential employees, by pursuing a no deal strategy.


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    Well we should know the final outcome of Brexit next week I reckon, after the US election concludes.

    A Trump win means a Boris mate in the White House still and the possibility of of pursuing a free trade deal with the US, which increases the chances of a no-deal exit.

    A Biden win means an anti-Brexit/pro-EU Democrat party in charge who won't race to do any deal with the UK, which you'd assume would mean Boris needs to pivot to securing at minimum a light touch deal with the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    Well we should know the final outcome of Brexit next week I reckon, after the US election concludes.

    A Trump win means a Boris mate in the White House still and the possibility of of pursuing a free trade deal with the US, which increases the chances of a no-deal exit.

    A Biden win means an anti-Brexit/pro-EU Democrat party in charge who won't race to do any deal with the UK, which you'd assume would mean Boris needs to pivot to securing at minimum a light touch deal with the EU.
    I’d agree with this; Biden is passionate about his Irish roots, and his potential administration will take a very dim view of anything that might upset the peace process.

    If he wins, there’ll be some bridge building to be done for Boris, or his government will be become a minor player (despite its upcoming G7 chairmanship).


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    Quote Originally Posted by DanR View Post
    If Hull and Grimsby can be reborn as Pharma hubs (and the word if is doing a lot of heavy lifting there), then perhaps the Vote Leave government should have spent the past 4.5 years building up both locations to do so, putting in place infrastructure around transport, training for local residents.

    Also, if you want to run specialised businesses, it kind of helps not to cut them off from a market of 500 million people, either as trade or as potential employees, by pursuing a no deal strategy.
    I’m looking forward to living in the next up and coming place. How exciting..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Redemption View Post
    This is the kind of delusional fantasy that fuels a false prospect of the post brexit uplands.



    I'm sure there's value in fish processing waste if you can extract it.

    But short of some kind of magic, there is no waste from any product that can act as an industrial multiplier to increase the value of the primary sector by even double let alone by some order of magnitude.

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    Will these 'Pharma' companies be the same ones that so desperately want our NHS?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GOBIAS View Post
    I’m looking forward to living in the next up and coming place. How exciting..
    You can look forward to the builders waste flytipped at your back gate becoming clinical waste soon


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob1965 View Post
    Will these 'Pharma' companies be the same ones that so desperately want our NHS?
    They're most likely theone ones that were based in Hull but have moved their operations elsewhere to take advantage of better trading conditions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    Well we should know the final outcome of Brexit next week I reckon, after the US election concludes.

    A Trump win means a Boris mate in the White House still and the possibility of of pursuing a free trade deal with the US, which increases the chances of a no-deal exit.

    A Biden win means an anti-Brexit/pro-EU Democrat party in charge who won't race to do any deal with the UK, which you'd assume would mean Boris needs to pivot to securing at minimum a light touch deal with the EU.
    It sure does sound like we hold all the cards.

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    Unfortunately we seem to be playing uno


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    It is peak Brexit that the deciding factor in our great claiming of our national sovereignty is the result of a basket case election in an even less healthy democracy on the other side of the planet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    It is peak Brexit that the deciding factor in our great claiming of our national sovereignty is the result of a basket case election in an even less healthy democracy on the other side of the planet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redemption View Post
    They're most likely theone ones that were based in Hull but have moved their operations elsewhere to take advantage of better trading conditions.
    Smith and nephew and Reckitt Benckiser?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GOBIAS View Post
    Smith and nephew and Reckitt Benckiser?
    And a couple of smaller ones too.

    I can't recall which Pharma it was that used to process their Cod Liver Oil in Hull, they moved that processing capacity to the far east and their HQ to London.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Redemption View Post
    And a couple of smaller ones too.

    I can't recall which Pharma it was that used to process their Cod Liver Oil in Hull, they moved that processing capacity to the far east and their HQ to London.
    Probably Seven Seas


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    Very nice of the DIT to admit last night that leaving on WTO terms would be a bad thing.


 

 

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