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    Quote Originally Posted by Phooey View Post
    The problem is that less than 17 million voted to stay in and we will never get back to where we were.
    Well, when you consider the population of the UK who didn't or couldn't vote, it's about equal proportions each way.

    But then, those who could and didn't could have and maybe the outcome would have been different if they did. So in a way you have to say these had no opinion.

    And whilst I do still think we're better apart, I do think we could have done more to keep things amicable, for instance I would have absolutely been in favour of retaining the access to the single market and freedom of movement, other non EU countries have access to this and it works well for them.

    What really pees me off is all the silliness. There was another one the other day where apparently the EU want to scrap lightning connectors and make all mobiles use USB-C. Which is on the face of it sensible, but doesn't think that all the lightning cables out there at the moment will ultimately need to be thrown away when their owners move to USB-C devices, and that they will need to buy more cables. A bit like when Apple moved to the lightning one and everyone had to throw away the old cables. Also, the lightning connector is better - it's waterproof, stronger than USB-C as it has just a plug which goes into a hole and not a plug within the socket, and it's regulated so fake cables can't steal your data or damage your device as easily. Just makes you wonder what the thought processes are.


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    I know, it's absolutely pathetic, terrible and a ridiculous waste of time and money. I'd much rather food rotting in the fields, shelves bare, petrol rationed and a black passport than have to use a charger cable that everyone but apple (who did work on it) use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OK SpidermAndy! View Post
    I know, it's absolutely pathetic, terrible and a ridiculous waste of time and money. I'd much rather food rotting in the fields, shelves bare, petrol rationed and a black passport than have to use a charger cable that everyone but apple (who did work on it) use.
    Well, not all of that is solely Brexit issues, let's say for example we have a load on UC and a load of jobs they won't go for which would probably help.

    And the HGV issues which most things seem to drop back to are a mixture of covid, Brexit and shit conditions.

    It seems as though they are finally doing the right thing which I said on here weeks ago and are going to allow HGV drivers in to work here temporarily to cover the shortfall. Why this wasn't fucking obvious months ago, I have no idea.


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    And for the record, I think it's fucking daft that anyone should be able to stop a company using a connector they developed for optimal connection on their device.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Statto View Post
    Well, when you consider the population of the UK who didn't or couldn't vote, it's about equal proportions each way.

    But then, those who could and didn't could have and maybe the outcome would have been different if they did. So in a way you have to say these had no opinion.

    And whilst I do still think we're better apart, I do think we could have done more to keep things amicable, for instance I would have absolutely been in favour of retaining the access to the single market and freedom of movement, other non EU countries have access to this and it works well for them.

    What really pees me off is all the silliness. There was another one the other day where apparently the EU want to scrap lightning connectors and make all mobiles use USB-C. Which is on the face of it sensible, but doesn't think that all the lightning cables out there at the moment will ultimately need to be thrown away when their owners move to USB-C devices, and that they will need to buy more cables. A bit like when Apple moved to the lightning one and everyone had to throw away the old cables. Also, the lightning connector is better - it's waterproof, stronger than USB-C as it has just a plug which goes into a hole and not a plug within the socket, and it's regulated so fake cables can't steal your data or damage your device as easily. Just makes you wonder what the thought processes are.
    They're also ridiculously overpriced, just like all Apple products

    Twenty quid for a bloody cable?!! Get outta here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde View Post
    They're also ridiculously overpriced, just like all Apple products

    Twenty quid for a bloody cable?!! Get outta here.
    Amazonbasics amongst others is your friend. I only end up with the official Apple cables when I buy a new device.


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    Only a fool buys official Apple cables.

    And I say that with some confidence, as I have pretty much every Apple product line at the moment.

    Anker is the way to go. Available online.

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    To be fair I'm an Android man (somewhat fittingly given my love of Douglas Adams and downbeat nature) so I don't know much about USB-C vs Lightning

    My wife and kids* are both iPhone users and it seems to me like every time they buy any kind of accessory it costs the Earth! And that's before you get to how much the phones themselves cost, although my kids have probably the most basic model from about five years ago or something.

    Maybe I should step in to oversee purchases of cables and the like...?

    *NB. I would much rather neither of my kids had phones, however at least if they are ones I've sanctioned I can assert a degree of control over what they can do / see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Statto View Post
    What really pees me off is all the silliness. There was another one the other day where apparently the EU want to scrap lightning connectors and make all mobiles use USB-C. Which is on the face of it sensible, but doesn't think that all the lightning cables out there at the moment will ultimately need to be thrown away when their owners move to USB-C devices, and that they will need to buy more cables. A bit like when Apple moved to the lightning one and everyone had to throw away the old cables. Also, the lightning connector is better - it's waterproof, stronger than USB-C as it has just a plug which goes into a hole and not a plug within the socket, and it's regulated so fake cables can't steal your data or damage your device as easily. Just makes you wonder what the thought processes are.
    Personally think it is a great idea, I hate the fact I have a draw full of a million cables with different connections but I can never find the one I want when I want it.

    Don't you usually get some sort of charging cable when you buy a product anyway? So it isn't like you are shelling out on more cables, just slowly replace when you buy more tech etc?


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    Harmonisation would indeed help.

    Even with Apple, I’ve got the daft situation that my iPad Pro and MacBook are USB-C, but my iPhone is still Lightning.

    Although when travelling, I only have a single Anker power adapter and that’s it (which helps). But still have to carry two types of cable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Harmonisation would indeed help.

    Even with Apple, I’ve got the daft situation that my iPad Pro and MacBook are USB-C, but my iPhone is still Lightning.

    Although when travelling, I only have a single Anker power adapter and that’s it (which helps). But still have to carry two types of cable.
    Exactly. Apple already use USB-C.

    This is just another bendy Banana bollocks that people use to justify shooting all of us in the foot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Only a fool buys official Apple products
    Ftfy

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    Didn't they take the piss out of Apple in GTA5 liken it to a cult?

    They might have had a point


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Didn't they take the piss out of Apple in GTA5 liken it to a cult?

    They might have had a point
    Think there was a mission to kill someone who looked like Jobs. Should have just played the long game


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    You leave an explosive phone in the Lifeinvader office. Lifeinvader CEO uses it on stage and it blows his head off.

    Lifeinvader is the Facebook pisstake. The Apple pisstake is the iFruit products [though they are basically the same]

    Last edited by Freddie; 25-09-21 at 10:58. Reason: Michael in that gilet though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie View Post
    You leave an explosive phone in the Lifeinvader office. Lifeinvader CEO uses it on stage and it blows his head off.

    Lifeinvader is the Facebook pisstake. The Apple pisstake is the iFruit products [though they are basically the same]
    ^^^ this.

    The Lifeinvader spoof is hilarious though. And there are loads of iFruit devices knocking about in-game.


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    The phones in GTA are really interesting, showing the difference in the characters status in society.

    Michael's iFruit is immaculate.
    Franklin's Android (Badger) is a bit beat up.
    Trevor's Windows (Facade) phone is knackered and old (iirc, you see it advertised in The Ballad of Gay Tony)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Harmonisation would indeed help.

    Even with Apple, I’ve got the daft situation that my iPad Pro and MacBook are USB-C, but my iPhone is still Lightning.

    Although when travelling, I only have a single Anker power adapter and that’s it (which helps). But still have to carry two types of cable.
    I have one of those Anker blocks which you can power multiple usb-c and usb devices off, charges everything I need anyway, decent piece of kit. Still need 1 cable per device though to leave the macbook on and charge airpods/phone/ipad overnight.

    Suppose the outlier there is why the ipad pro uses usb-c, when the other ones use lightning, and the new iphone 13 range still does (it's not as if they're transitioning to usb-c anyway). It makes sense in the macbooks because unlike a lightning connector on a phone you're going to be connecting all sorts to the usb-c ports on a laptop more than just things like chargers. So you can get things like usb-c memory card readers which you probably wouldn't be able to plug into an iphone or ipad anyway (though saying that, I have a lightning micro SD reader). So there isn't much of an argument to move those devices over.

    But I don't disagree with the whole "well you end up with a drawer full of cables even if you don't buy any and they're all different types which is silly" argument. But the thing is, most of us have probably been at that stage anyway for years. I have boxes full of the stuff and also those mains to USB bricks you get (which I don't really use) and someone (doesn't really matter if it's the government, EU, US or Apple) deciding not to make devices with lightning connectors on them any more means that ultimately when all those devices have been replaced the cables will need to go into the bin anyway, which is the situation they're trying to avoid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Statto View Post
    I have one of those Anker blocks which you can power multiple usb-c and usb devices off, charges everything I need anyway, decent piece of kit. Still need 1 cable per device though to leave the macbook on and charge airpods/phone/ipad overnight.

    Suppose the outlier there is why the ipad pro uses usb-c, when the other ones use lightning, and the new iphone 13 range still does (it's not as if they're transitioning to usb-c anyway). It makes sense in the macbooks because unlike a lightning connector on a phone you're going to be connecting all sorts to the usb-c ports on a laptop more than just things like chargers. So you can get things like usb-c memory card readers which you probably wouldn't be able to plug into an iphone or ipad anyway (though saying that, I have a lightning micro SD reader). So there isn't much of an argument to move those devices over.

    But I don't disagree with the whole "well you end up with a drawer full of cables even if you don't buy any and they're all different types which is silly" argument. But the thing is, most of us have probably been at that stage anyway for years. I have boxes full of the stuff and also those mains to USB bricks you get (which I don't really use) and someone (doesn't really matter if it's the government, EU, US or Apple) deciding not to make devices with lightning connectors on them any more means that ultimately when all those devices have been replaced the cables will need to go into the bin anyway, which is the situation they're trying to avoid.
    Long term, Apple are going wireless for charging, for iPhones anyway.

    The new iPad Air and Mini are USB-C now also.

    It’s only the standard iPad and the iPhone that remain on Lightning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Long term, Apple are going wireless for charging, for iPhones anyway.

    The new iPad Air and Mini are USB-C now also.

    It’s only the standard iPad and the iPhone that remain on Lightning.
    Yes that's true, I've charged mine wireless for ages now, it's overnight so doesn't really matter how quick it is, only time I plug it in is if it's in the car and I need some more charge or if it's being synchronised with something (which again, something like iMazing can do over wifi).


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    Didn't they take the piss out of Apple in GTA5 liken it to a cult?

    They might have had a point
    When I used to work in Leicester, one of my colleagues would go down to the Oxford Circus Apple Store once a year and camp outside of it overnight so he could get the new iPhone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    When I used to work in Leicester, one of my colleagues would go down to the Oxford Circus Apple Store once a year and camp outside of it overnight so he could get the new iPhone.

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    I don't get that, though it's probably the same instinct as buying whole shelves full of pasta/toilet paper (or fuel at the moment, though that's much easier limited).

    It's almost as though they have to have the latest device as soon as possible no matter how much inconvenience you have to put yourself through.

    And it's not as though they're going to make more iphones if they come across some hardware defects, but I suppose they could maybe work around in software with some of them, but I'd almost like others to get the initial use done and find out what the issues are (like it was evident from the start that the iphone 4 had that antenna issue which they fixed in the 4s) especially the ones you're only going to find having used it for a week or two.

    I'll probably no doubt grab a 13 at some point (the new pink colour is stylish) but I usually only tend to change devices when they break (like one of my phones decided to pop the screen when I was on a plane, wasn't even sitting on it, it still worked but wasn't sure about really using it) or when the battery life becomes a pain in the neck.


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    What a fucking cheek the Daily Mail have.

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    How many people do we have on universal credit?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    What a fucking cheek the Daily Mail have.

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    I'd say three of them jobs are mostly zero hour minimum wage jobs..... easy problem to solve really. Give em a contract and pay em properly.

    Two of the others are long hours, affecting family life and your health, both stressful one you shit in lay bys and the final one you have to do 3 years at uni and 30 grands worth of debt for, can't think why folk arent climbing over themselves to do them.


 

 

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