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    Default Re: The Big BREXIT discussion!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hughton,we have a problem View Post
    U.K.- EU cross border e-commerce physical trade has more or less dried up. I only do about 50k per year but companies like the one in my street , a mail order European hub have given up sending into EU until they can figure out what to do. So a European hub canít send into Europe, donít need to be Einstein to figure out what is going to happen there.


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    Sadly you don't have to look far to find dozens of stories about hauliers having problems. Not just going into Europe but traveling to the uk as well. I heard because a lot of European drivers getting paid by the Kms and not by the hour they are refusing to come for fear of delays.
    The most maddening thing is, while small hauliers
    are going to the wall Boris is still putting out the story that maybe there are a few teething problems but everything is running smoothly.
    Even the DUP mp Ian Paisley has called Boris,s remarks an insult to his intelligence.

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    What amazes me is that people still believe these are issue to be resolved through 'renegotiation' or new process/systems that haven't been implemented yet.
    This is what we voted for, it's what we have and it will now remain like this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by congo_red View Post
    What amazes me is that people still believe these are issue to be resolved through 'renegotiation' or new process/systems that haven't been implemented yet.
    This is what we voted for, it's what we have and it will now remain like this.

    It'll be resolved as people get used to the papaerwork. And people business closing and people losing their jobs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by congo_red View Post
    What amazes me is that people still believe these are issue to be resolved through 'renegotiation' or new process/systems that haven't been implemented yet.
    This is what we voted for, it's what we have and it will now remain like this.
    The transport manager at Whites Transport is convinced it will get worse. January is a well known time for being quiet in the transport industry as a lot of people use up stock that was over ordered for Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughton,we have a problem View Post
    It'll be resolved as people get used to the papaerwork. And people business closing and people losing their jobs.
    I suspect it will be more the latter than the former - as paperwork, in terms of filling out the correct forms, is not the only issue here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Redemption View Post
    It had limitations and you had the right to decline. Yes, there was still duress. But also there was a remedy.

    And you could only opt out of the 48 hours limit of the directive. Work time breaks and holiday entitlement, for instance, were still intact. The provisions are scheduled to go.

    At the end of the day, workers will be worse off after the new rules. Given that for the last 5 years we told UK worker's had the best rights in Europe and this would be the same after brexit seems a bit rich on just 2 weeks into soverignty, etc
    Let's not forget it did only apply to constantly working over 48 hours. It had to be averaged over a certain timeframe to be a breach, most didn't and those that did, signed it away. For me, zero hour contracts are woefully more an attack on workers rights.

    I'm not trying to defend them, just don't necessarily see it as a problem. Maybe I'm just hoping this part of project fear doesn't come to fruition.

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    I, for one, am shocked and appalled that the country voting to increase trade barriers and red tape has resulted in an increase in trade barriers and red tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    You could give your rights away, but the question is, why should you?

    Why should you have to give up your right to a better work/life balance, just because your employer says so?

    Several hundred million EU citizens seem to manage pretty will with the amount of time they have to be at work being capped in this way.
    We had to sign if we wanted to do or claim overtime but all overtime is "voluntary" in fact most people I work directly with seem to want more hours. I do realise I'm quite lucky in my position though, wage is shit but perks, although eroded are still better than most.


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    I can confirm Brexit is real. My go-to supplier of cycle gear is Italy based and they have just released a statement on the website saying they have suspended all UK orders/deliveries. No indication as to how long this lasts and, hopefully, is only a temporary measure until the border issues are resolved. Nonetheless, I'm f***ing raging as they have a a 30% off sale on a jersey I have coveted for 6 months.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo View Post
    I can confirm Brexit is real. My go-to supplier of cycle gear is Italy based and they have just released a statement on the website saying they have suspended all UK orders/deliveries. No indication as to how long this lasts and, hopefully, is only a temporary measure until the border issues are resolved. Nonetheless, I'm f***ing raging as they have a a 30% off sale on a jersey I have coveted for 6 months.
    Nothing in Primark then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefkasman View Post
    Nothing in Primark then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    You could give your rights away, but the question is, why should you?

    Why should you have to give up your right to a better work/life balance, just because your employer says so?

    Several hundred million EU citizens seem to manage pretty will with the amount of time they have to be at work being capped in this way.
    I can only speak from a personal point of view but I donít feel I can do my job if limited to a 48hr week.

    Typically I will leave home at 18:30 so I can get to site for the briefing usually at 19:30. Traffic management is on for the 20:00. If we are doing something like resurfacing, Iíll usually wonít be walking back through my front door till 05:00 or 06:00 in the morning.

    If I left site early, I wouldnít be able to manage/supervise the site till the end of the shift, and if something went tits up, something like an accident or the traffic management is late coming off, I wouldnít be doing my job.

    The only solution would be split shifts, but to be quite honest Iíd much rather work a 12hr shift than do a split shift.

    There is absolutely zero advantage to me when Iím working nights to be doing a 48hr week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheRed View Post
    I can only speak from a personal point of view but I donít feel I can do my job if limited to a 48hr week.

    Typically I will leave home at 18:30 so I can get to site for the briefing usually at 19:30. Traffic management is on for the 20:00. If we are doing something like resurfacing, Iíll usually wonít be walking back through my front door till 05:00 or 06:00 in the morning.

    If I left site early, I wouldnít be able to manage/supervise the site till the end of the shift, and if something went tits up, something like an accident or the traffic management is late coming off, I wouldnít be doing my job.

    The only solution would be split shifts, but to be quite honest Iíd much rather work a 12hr shift than do a split shift.

    There is absolutely zero advantage to me when Iím working nights to be doing a 48hr week.
    But then, clearly, you donít have enough people to cover the amount of work required?

    Or, if your work pattern require 12-hour shifts, why donít you only work four days a week?

    ĄI believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialismď

    ĄDon't forget you're alive. 'Cause sometimes when you walk around the city and you're in a bad mood, you can think, hey, wait a minute, we're alive! We don't know what the next second will bring and what a fantastic thing this is. This can get easily forgotten in the routine of life, and that's something I'm trying to bring to my attention at all times. Don't forget you're alive. We're not dead, you know. This is the greatest thing.Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheRed View Post
    I can only speak from a personal point of view but I don’t feel I can do my job if limited to a 48hr week.
    You need to learn the art of delegation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    But then, clearly, you donít have enough people to cover the amount of work required?

    Or, if your work pattern require 12-hour shifts, why donít you only work four days a week?
    Does anybody these days? If we wanted to get picky you could say that the lads who are lying are working similar hours, should be split shift those so they donít going over the working time directive? Do we double our overhead costs for everything we do and who is paying for it? Do we also hire someone specifically to come in and cover a Friday shift? Also you canít just be expected to be dropped on a site and crack on, there are handovers etc that need to be done.

    As an individual I am more than happy when I am out on site to do those sorts of hours. I also know if I feel fatigued I can call my boss and we can put cover in place if needs be. The balance is when I am not on site (probably a third of the year) my work life is very relaxed, I generally work from home and have little to do bar set up or close out schemes which isnít the most taxing work.


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    Laying* in the above post. Canít edit.

    Quote Originally Posted by congo_red View Post
    You need to learn the art of delegation.
    Tell that to the HSE if I left site and something went tits up.

    But in all seriousness, I am just a cog in the machine that gets things built. From my side, unless there is another client rep on site the stuff I do canít be delegated.


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    Here is an extract from an email I received from an Irish distributor I work with it just confirms how well Brexit is going.

    We are working with transport companies to sort out delivery from Ireland and Uk

    As we speak major Uk suppliers cannot sup to Ireland or anywhere really

    Its really bad . Quadzilla - Storm buggies we have around € 75000.00 worth of goods they cant ship to us . The regulations are making it impossible . This is going to end badly . Tesco Ireland have empty shelves same with all Uk retail in Ireland . Most transport companies have taken 2 to 3 weeks off no point nothing is getting through .


    That's real front line stuff. I would just like to say thank you to every one who voted leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo View Post
    I can confirm Brexit is real. My go-to supplier of cycle gear is Italy based and they have just released a statement on the website saying they have suspended all UK orders/deliveries. No indication as to how long this lasts and, hopefully, is only a temporary measure until the border issues are resolved. Nonetheless, I'm f***ing raging as they have a a 30% off sale on a jersey I have coveted for 6 months.
    Do they not realise they need your order more than you need their stuff?


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    It'll be right.

    The German car industry will be here soon to save the day.

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