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    Gigio Donnarumma to PSG is almost done apparently. He will be earning a mere 12m a year by all accounts.


    ... And the big clubs complain about a system that can't support itself.



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    Both the Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana have reached the round of 16 stage. Both competitions will play 1st legs 13-15 July and 2nd legs 20-22 July. Draws with seeds are as follows:
    Copa Libertadores:
    (13)Defensa y Justicia - Flamengo (5)
    (16)Olimpia Asuncion - Internacional Porto Alegre (8
    (12)Cerro Porteno - Fluminense (7)
    (11)Velez Sarsfield - Barcelona Guyaquil (4)
    (10)Boca Juniors - Atletico Mineiro (1)
    (14)River Plate - Argentinos Juniors (6)
    (15)Univeridad Catolica - Palmeiras (2)
    (9) Sao Paulo - Racing (3)

    Copa Sudamericana:
    (11)Nacional Montevideo - Penarol (4)
    (16)Sporting Cristal - Arsenal Sarandi (8
    (15)America de Cali - Athletico Paranaense (2)
    (10)LDU Quito - Gremio (1)
    (14)Independiente del Valle - RB Bragantino (6)
    (9) Deportivo Tachira - Rosario Central (7)
    (13)Santos - Independiente (3)
    (12)Junior de Barranquilla - Libertad (5)


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    Well, here’s an interesting tale, and another case of an African Player being exploited by a European agent.

    VfB Stuttgart‘s exciting attacking player Silas Wamangituka - a personal favourite of mine, who I’ve raved about on here - well, isn’t Silas Wamangituka.

    His real name is Silas Katompa Mvumpa, and he’s a year older than his previous papers described. It seems that in an effort by his former agent to break Silas‘ contract with his former Congolese club, when Silas came to Europe, the agent procured new papers in the name of Silas Wamangituka (one of Silas‘ fathers‘ names) and changed his date of birth by one year. The agent then arranged a transfer to Paris FC (from where he subsequently joined VfB).

    In France, he was issued a work permit and visa in this „new“ name.

    The agent then blackmailed the player into keeping quiet, apparently keeping from
    him his wages, and insisting he lived with him, or - it is reported - the agent told him he would lose his football career, and probably be jailed.

    Only after his transfer to Stuttgart and his establishment in the first-team, did Silas pluck up the courage to tell the club what had happened. The DFL and DFB were involved, and legal action could well be taken (both by the player and the club) against the agent concerned.

    Here’s the official story from the VfB website:

    https://www.vfb.de/de/vfb/aktuell/ne...stellungnahme/

    It’s a bit shocking that something like this can happen in the modern game.

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    It's all going off in the Bundesliga.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Well, here’s an interesting tale, and another case of an African Player being exploited by a European agent.

    VfB Stuttgart‘s exciting attacking player Silas Wamangituka - a personal favourite of mine, who I’ve raved about on here - well, isn’t Silas Wamangituka.

    His real name is Silas Katompa Mvumpa, and he’s a year older than his previous papers described. It seems that in an effort by his former agent to break Silas‘ contract with his former Congolese club, when Silas came to Europe, the agent procured new papers in the name of Silas Wamangituka (one of Silas‘ fathers‘ names) and changed his date of birth by one year. The agent then arranged a transfer to Paris FC (from where he subsequently joined VfB).

    In France, he was issued a work permit and visa in this „new“ name.

    The agent then blackmailed the player into keeping quiet, apparently keeping from
    him his wages, and insisting he lived with him, or - it is reported - the agent told him he would lose his football career, and probably be jailed.

    Only after his transfer to Stuttgart and his establishment in the first-team, did Silas pluck up the courage to tell the club what had happened. The DFL and DFB were involved, and legal action could well be taken (both by the player and the club) against the agent concerned.

    Here’s the official story from the VfB website:

    https://www.vfb.de/de/vfb/aktuell/ne...stellungnahme/

    It’s a bit shocking that something like this can happen in the modern game.
    It happens all the time with African players. There is loads that aren't as good as Silas so just carry on without saying anything because they know the club might not protect them like Stuttgart have.

    Agents all over Africa will pretty much bribe families for money to take their kid to European clubs whether they are good enough or not. Even if they are ridiclously talented that is the only way out. The percentage of players playing for African national teams that actually grew up in Africa is pretty tiny.


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    Just an ordinary lower league game in Poland:

    https://twitter.com/wmzpn/status/1402197395492966401


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    Quote Originally Posted by klinsi View Post
    Just an ordinary lower league game in Poland:

    https://twitter.com/wmzpn/status/1402197395492966401
    Top banter from the Referee, issuing a card there, thoroughly deserved you have to say.


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    Looks like Viola are going on a massive purchasing spree with some Chiesa left-overs.

    Sergio Oliveira (Porto)
    Goncalo Guedes (Valencia)
    Nico Gonzalez (Stuttgart)

    Will be at least 50-60m for those 3.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy View Post
    Looks like Viola are going on a massive purchasing spree with some Chiesa left-overs.

    Sergio Oliveira (Porto)
    Goncalo Guedes (Valencia)
    Nico Gonzalez (Stuttgart)

    Will be at least 50-60m for those 3.
    The price for Nico G is €25m, that I can tell you.

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    Jadon Sancho news:

    Man U have bid €78m for the winger. Dortmund want more than €90m, and the money to be paid over three years, not five (which was what United offered).

    There is apparently an unofficial deal done with the player on wages, it is just waiting for the two clubs to agree a fee and terms. It does feel like this one could happen, and if so, it might mean that Die Schwarzgelb hold on to young Håland for another season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Jadon Sancho news:

    Man U have bid €78m for the winger. Dortmund want more than €90m, and the money to be paid over three years, not five (which was what United offered).

    There is apparently an unofficial deal done with the player on wages, it is just waiting for the two clubs to agree a fee and terms. It does feel like this one could happen, and if so, it might mean that Die Schwarzgelb hold on to young Håland for another season.
    Wamangituka to replace him perhaps?


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    Quote Originally Posted by RealRed85 View Post
    Wamangituka to replace him perhaps?


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    Sergio Oliveira is another one we were trying to sign just after he finished the loan to PAOK


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    Talking of Silas, after the frankly mind boggling recent events around his identity (see post further up) the DFB have handed down a three month ban, effectively immediately, and a €30.000 fine for the player.

    He’ll be ineligible to play now until September 11th, 2021.

    As he’s currently injured (and not expected back until October) this is far from a bad outcome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Talking of Silas, after the frankly mind boggling recent events around his identity (see post further up) the DFB have handed down a three month ban, effectively immediately, and a €30.000 fine for the player.

    He’ll be ineligible to play now until September 11th, 2021.

    As he’s currently injured (and not expected back until October) this is far from a bad outcome.
    Haha straight out of the EFL “let’s fine them 1 point less than it would take to relegate them” book of useless punishments.


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    Despite winning titles it seems all change at Bayern, Inter and Lille with all potentially parting company with their coach (just waiting on Galtier)

    Bayern let Boateng & Javi Martinez go. David Alaba to Real Madrid. Tolisso and Coman want to leave too.

    Hakimi to Chelsea ?

    Maignan to AC Milan. Soumare to Leicester and probably others too.

    Even at City with Kun leaving. Laporte and Bernardo Silva want to leave too.


 

 

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