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    Default Patrick Bamford

    Looks the real deal these days. Some of his finishing looks lethal albeit it in League one. Think this one is going to come back and bite us on the butt in a big way. Can't help but think he would be starting or at least coming off the bench in our current side. A natural finisher and looks certain to go onto bigger and better things.

    Hey ho....


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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    How can this come back to bite us on the butt? We had no choice in the matter - we made him a good offer (according to Frank Clark the best ever to a player of his age), he turned it down because he wanted to go to Chelsea and would have left for nothing at the end of the season.

    Maybe we should have tried to loan him.


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    It is still one of the most mind boggling things I have seen at Forest. In the midst of a record breaking goal drought - this free scoring kid could not get in the side.

    It would be like complaining about not having any defenders at all, and then releasing two and selling one...

    Oh Cotterill

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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    You're forgetting that we had Marlon "goal machine" Harewood on our books at the time.


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    We really let another gem go here.

    At least we got some money for him however he'll probably be worth 4 times that in a year or so.


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    Him and his family wanted the move to London and who can blame them.

    Last edited by TheDudeII; 21-10-13 at 15:52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sheldon Cooper View Post
    You're forgetting that we had Marlon "goal machine" Harewood on our books at the time.

    The thought of MarLol makes it worse


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    Quote Originally Posted by SwinnyPig View Post
    Looks the real deal these days. Some of his finishing looks lethal albeit it in League one. Think this one is going to come back and bite us on the butt in a big way. Can't help but think he would be starting or at least coming off the bench in our current side. A natural finisher and looks certain to go onto bigger and better things.

    Hey ho....
    Well he wanted game time and he's getting it now, should have been given a chance the previous season, if the coaches at the club had seen his potential he would have been here still, we needed a striker that year and got Boyd in, maybe we should have given him a run but oh well. Hopefully the club will learn from their mistakes, although we had a similar situation with freeman.

    If we're not gonna play them someone else will.


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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    At the time we were broke and needed the money. We got a very good offer. He wanted to go even though we offered him a better contract. What can you do? You can't make players play for you if they want to go. He didn't move to Chelski because he thought he was going to get in their first team straight away. We could have played him fair enough but if Chelsea come calling most teenagers would go. Thats what Chelsea have been doing since Abramovich's money came in, they take punts by buying up young talent and hoping some of the investment pays off. Most top prem clubs do the same. That's why there are so few young English top talented players playing in the lower leagues unless they are loaned out.

    Last edited by Trickie Trees; 21-10-13 at 16:57.

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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    I never said games for Chelsea, I'm pretty sure he knew he wasn't that good, but if he'd been given a chance earlier maybe he would have stayed, well atleast longer than he did.


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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    We were broke.
    He wanted to move to Chelsea - for probably a lot more money than he was offered here.
    Cotterill was our manager.

    Who can blame him for going?


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    I think people are missing my point. If he had played earlier maybe he would have signed before there was Chelsea interest. I don't think he went from crap to that level in a few months?


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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    Bamford wouldn't be any where near our side.

    Look at 5mil rated Lascelles played 2 cup games hasn't he.


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    I dont blame Cotterill for selling him we were in the pits financially I would however like to get the director or chairman who thought that paying 250k to release Cotterill from his contract and then went on to sell players because we needed money to answer for his stupidity, especially Mark Robbins was on a free and a much better manager


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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    Two seasons later and he is now up to League One level. He'll go on to play in the Premier League at some point, but he wasn't anywhere near ready for a Championship relegation battle when he was sold to Chelsea. Either he left for £1.5 million in January and we had money to reinvest, or he'd leave in the summer for compensation decided through a tribunal. Selling him was the right move at the time to save the club.


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    "Wes' Organ" used to post on here quite a bit and he went to a lot of youth games. He was adamant that Bamford was still far too raw and lightweight for a relegation dogfight even though he was banging them in for the youth team.


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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    We let Will Hughes go too.
    They're both ex-players now. Move on.

    THE TRUTH IS THERE AND WITH IT I GO TO THE END OF THE WORLD .

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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    We got a decent deal for him and we were desperate for the money. He may have come into the side when we were struggling and scored goals, who knows? He clearly wanted to go to Chelsea so at that time it was the best thing to do for him and our club.


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    We got £1.5m for Bamford
    We paid £1m for Lansbury

    That makes me feel a whole lot better. As Ravi said - move on.


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    We had no choice in the matter. He wasn't ready for the first team when we sold him and he had six months left before he was available on a nominal. Just one of those things.


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    He'd have been more effective than Marlon fucking Harewood whose loan move was apparently facilitated by his sale.


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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    We can only hope the club gets better at making the most of it's gems


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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    Quote Originally Posted by nffc-rob View Post
    Well he wanted game time and he's getting it now, should have been given a chance the previous season, if the coaches at the club had seen his potential he would have been here still, we needed a striker that year and got Boyd in, maybe we should have given him a run but oh well. Hopefully the club will learn from their mistakes, although we had a similar situation with freeman.

    If we're not gonna play them someone else will.
    I don't post much on here, prefer to read, but sometimes some things that 'fans' come out with is ridiculous. How can you honestly say you have spotted a talent that the coaches who see these players every day miss. They worked with the lad, they are the professionals, they are the ones that know. How can you say that you know better than they did. Ok, make the point that you think he should play, but you can't question whether they know the player has potential. They obviously new, they tried to keep him. We had no money, he wanted a move, not much could have been done. And, should we have played him? Maybe. Was he ready though? Probably not. He's only young and the difference of a year is huge. We signed Boyd ages ago, just because he's currently good enough for league 1 now, in no way means he was good enough back then.

    Have a bit more trust, think about it and stop trying to run the whole club from an armchair.


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    Default Re: Patrick Bamford

    Bamford could well be the next Grant Holt


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    It is easy to say 'why did we let him go' or ' he went on the cheap' etc but irrespective of his contract position at the time Chelsea paid for potential, not guarenteed quality or success. It looks like they have got the better end of the deal and have a quality player in the making but for every youth that makes it there are plenty that don't. Craig Westcarr was in a similar position, scoring for fun and a run out in the first team...Would have loved £1.5M for him!! We got good money for him, think there are add ons and a sell on fee too.


 

 

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