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The Peter Whittingham Saga
.........tweeted at 22:08 tonight by one of the Guardian's sports journalists, Daniel Taylor. Ties in with Chippers' earlier tweets.
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Re: £1.5m bid tabled in writing today for Whittingham
Good news if true but i won't believe anything until its been offcial by Forest.
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I doubt this will be enough to get Cardiff to sell even with their financial worries. We will need to bid in excess of 2m I would have thought to force their hand.
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I'd be fairly confident it's true - he's normally pretty reliable. What comes of it is anyone's guess, though...
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Re: £1.5m bid tabled in writing today for Whittingham
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Originally Posted by
Kier
I doubt this will be enough to get Cardiff to sell even with their financial worries. We will need to bid in excess of 2m I would have thought to force their hand.
We could be saving ourselves 500k > 1m if they accept a smaller bid though. It's not worth rushing in with wallets blazing.
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its a step in the right direction, hopefully we will go in with a higher offer as theres no way cardiff will accept it.
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he's in a similar position to pratley with 12 months left on his contract, cardiff should accept this
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Please accept, you blatently need the money!
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this could be enough to get him there is not loads of money being splashed about and Cardiff need the money so it might be enough
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Re: £1.5m bid tabled in writing today for Whittingham
Burnley bidded 1.75 mill tho ???
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oh ok i didn't know Burnley had made a bid
i suppose alot depends on the player himself, and who he wants to play for
i think Cardiff will definitely sell him but who to is anyones guess
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Re: £1.5m bid tabled in writing today for Whittingham
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Originally Posted by
Raymondo Ponte'
Burnley bidded 1.75 mill tho ???
My guess is that this means that one or both stories are inaccurate. Or that burnley were offering players or magic beans instead of cash.
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Re: £1.5m bid tabled in writing today for Whittingham
Hopefully us because Burnley are crap ;/
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Burnley have their "parachute" money, so I suppose a £1.75m bid isn't out of bounds for them; I suppose we would have to match whatever Burnley bid, and then - if the bid is accepted - it's up to the player.
The other issue then is money, and I would worry that Burnley might offer him more cash (they'd have to offer some incentive for someone to go and live in a dump like Burnley!)
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tbh would you want to go burnley?
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One word, begins with D and ends with Erisory...
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It's a decent bid as he on;y has 12 months left on his contract. If Cardiff accept that bid then I think he will be coming our way.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/8761853.stm
I know, lets offer £250,000 less than the one bid that's already been rejected.
OK as a toe in the water exercise but unlikely to succeed, having said that the TAP did well in this kind of thing last year.
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Re: £1.5m bid tabled in writing today for Whittingham
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Originally Posted by
yamyam
BBC = Press.
Daniel Taylor = Press.
There's no way of knowing how much either club has offered, or whether either have tabled a bid at all? Or if Peter Whittingham even exists?
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Originally Posted by
tomharding
Or if Peter Whittingham even exists?
i would like to confirm now that i am a believer.
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Someone on another site is speculating that the the Burnley bid was actually about 750k with add ons and clauses making a total of 1.75m. apparently this is the first cash up front bid that is close to there valuation.
Also when it comes to the choice between Forest or Burnley, Whittingham was on loan at Burnley when he played for Villa. So there may be some degree of loyalty there.
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Originally Posted by
Henry Lee
This is bullshit
are you doubting my faith?? i'll have you know that there are plenty of peter whittingham references on the bbc sport website. for example: "Peter Whittingham got the first in an early sign that Derby's offside trap would be exposed, then he set up Chopra for his first strike since August." Caericon, 10,9-29
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Re: £1.5m bid tabled in writing today for Whittingham
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Originally Posted by
luker1980
Also when it comes to the choice between Forest or Burnley, Whittingham was on loan at Burnley when he played for Villa. So there may be some degree of loyalty there.
Or not, he's witnessed 1st hand that its a dump!
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Re: £1.5m bid tabled in writing today for Whittingham
On the Cardiff forums they are saying he must be worth 3m!!
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haha my favorite comment on their board;
"take the money.we need it .
would he ever have another season like the last one?"
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Originally Posted by
soulmalarki
On the Cardiff forums they are saying he must be worth 3m!!
Two ways of looking at this.
He MAY be worth £3M with a lengthy contract tying him to the club for a number of years. With a year to go before he walks away for nothing his market value would be closer to half that.
On the other hand only they know what he is worth to them. He may be worth more to them than he is to us. Brave call if they turn it down though, as they really can't afford to see him walk away next year.
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Originally Posted by
andover red
Brave call if they turn it down though, as they really can't afford to see him walk away next year.
I agree with this.
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Cardiff aren't as financially in the pooper as some may think - they could reject this bid if they want, just depends if they're ready to gamble on losing him on a free in 12 months.
On a different note, the Burnley bid wasn't cash up front. There was a good million or so made up in future payments and bonuses. Our offer, should it actually exist, may be less on the face of things, but would be significantly improved on Burnley's bid. Burnley don't have the cash to pay up front.
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Originally Posted by
RobbieLePop
Cardiff aren't as financially in the pooper as some may think - they could reject this bid if they want, just depends if they're ready to gamble on losing him on a free in 12 months.
On a different note, the Burnley bid wasn't cash up front. There was a good million or so made up in future payments and bonuses. Our offer, should it actually exist, may be less on the face of things, but would be significantly improved on Burnley's bid. Burnley don't have the cash to pay up front.
how can Cardiff not be in the crap when the following is being reported
The Bluebirds are still under a transfer embargo because of a £500,000 debt for Mark Hudson, signed from Charlton, while they also need to sort out their tax bill and have wages to pay on July 28.
Ideally, the Bluebirds need to find £2m before the end of this month to ensure the transfer embargo is lifted
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Forests offer is bang on
He's a gamble, one season does not make a striker.
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On the subject of Cardiff's finance, I thought Risdale had 'investment' lined up? There's been 'big news' from the badly run Welsh club on at least two occasions that some disreputable millionaire was ready to start shoveling the cash in. What happened to that?
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being reported on SSN that Dave Jones is favorite to get the Fulham job, so this deal could defiantly come off
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Originally Posted by
sammy the snake
He's a gamble, one season does not make a striker.
Indeed. Especially as he's a winger/midfielder.
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Originally Posted by
fil
being reported on SSN that Dave Jones is favorite to get the Fulham job, so this deal could defiantly come off
..or Whittingham could follow him to Fulham?
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Originally Posted by
fil
how can Cardiff not be in the crap when the following is being reported
The Bluebirds are still under a transfer embargo because of a £500,000 debt for Mark Hudson, signed from Charlton, while they also need to sort out their tax bill and have wages to pay on July 28.
Ideally, the Bluebirds need to find £2m before the end of this month to ensure the transfer embargo is lifted
Don't they also owe £1.5M outstanding debt for Chopra as well?
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Originally Posted by
yamyam
Don't they also owe £1.5M outstanding debt for Chopra as well?
i'm not sure about that, one thing i do remember is reading alot about before the play off final was that if Cardiff didn't win and get the premiership millions then they would be is serious trouble and looking at going into admin.
i keep reading stories about new investment for them but have seen no proof of it (it's almost as good as the clownty saga)
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Originally Posted by
fil
(it's almost as good as the clownty saga)
If Counteh's financial woes is a saga, this is more like the Neverending Story. Cardiff should have been docked points or wound up years ago.
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Re: £1.5m bid tabled in writing today for Whittingham
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Originally Posted by
congo_red
On the subject of Cardiff's finance, I thought Risdale had 'investment' lined up? There's been 'big news' from the badly run Welsh club on at least two occasions that some disreputable millionaire was ready to start shoveling the cash in. What happened to that?
Malayasian business man, I think will only invest once the club settle the outstanding debt with their previous chairman, I cannot remember the sum, posted it once :confused:, but it is an amount not to be sniffed at.