Why are we losing games?

Brolin

Swedish Meatball
Forest today lost their third away game on the spin and we are now losing touch with the top two. This isn't necessarily a crisis and the ground we have lost is not impossible to gain, but why have we gone from being unbeatable to not getting results?

Billy Davies' team selection
For the first time in months Davies looks fallable as a manager. Inspired selections from left field that we enjoyed earlier in the season, bringing Moussi straight into the starting line up after eight games out for example, have turned to Garner looking ineffective in the midfield and Adebola being isolated at Doncaster.

Today's team selection was the queerest to date. We have lost all three games by one goal to nil, so the immediate suggestion is that a misfiring attack is more to blame than a defence which has only conceded a goal on the road.

With Earnshaw and Blackstock sitting on the bench, we omitted our two biggest goal threats. So who could we look to score us goals? The leading league scorers in the starting line up were McGugan, Adebola and Majewski, with three goals each. Compare this to Earnshaw and Blackstock, who have 10 each, and it is clear to see we were light up front.

Davies tells us that the players get fatigued and he is right. Forest have been very fortunate with injuries this season and not playing tired players has got to be a massive factor in that.

I would argue that one with Earnshaw or Blackstock has to start every game, because goals win games and without either of them we are toothless.

McKenna losing form
The only notable exceptions to Davies' fatigue worries are Gunter and our captain (obviously excluding Camp from this argument). Gunter is younger than Anderson and Majewski, both players Davies has said will suffer with the fixture pile up, and this is the first full season of first team football of his career.

McKenna is perhaps the most pertinent example. At 32, he is the second oldest player on our books, behind Adebola, and in centre midfield can probably be expected to cover a lot of ground.

During our great run many people mused what would happen if McKenna got injured, so key is he to our plans. We are yet to find out the answer to this, but we are learning that if the skipper is off form, the entire ship seems to struggle.

A new feature of his play since he went off the boil has been this hoik towards the corner flag, while he doesn't seem to be bossing the midfield like before. All players go through bad patches and I am not slating him for this one, but Forest are missing an in-form McKenna badly.

Lack of investment in January
One way of countering McKenna being off form or injured would have been to strengthen the squad. Davies has talked at length about how we needed to invest in January to keep up the top of the table and those words may well have been prophetic.

Perch is not a natural left sided player, Cohen is missed from the midfield. Moussi is not as good a leader as McKenna and is a different sort of player. A natural left sided midfielder is an option we lack.

It isn't easy or cheap bringing in quality in a notoriously difficult January transfer window, but perhaps Forest have missed a trick. I think not getting in a left back of any description is the biggest error of all and one that will have to now be remedied with a loan signing.

Tough games
While we haven't necessarily been playing teams at the top of the league, places like Doncaster and Coventry are difficult venues in their own way. Doncaster is one of the ugliest places I've seen in the country, and I live near Goole.

As there will almost certainly be three teams worse than them, even with a completely inept manager, Derby's season hinged on beat Forest - and they managed it. Local derbies can toss up all sorts of results and you never know which way it will go.

When you lose it is important to respect the opposition, but in some of these games I think we have beaten ourselves rather than letting the other team have a go.

The 'bunny' factor
Named after Colin Calderwood's amazing quote about the Carlisle and Doncaster teams, "they'll be nervous... nervous as bunnies". As we have found out since, rabbits are famously nervous creatures, so are we bottling it?

Forest's recent run has coincided with Davies talking down our chances and flat out refusing to admit that despite operating in the higher reaches of the table, we may just win promotion.

The expectation of the fans has also been brought with this success. Booing the team when 1-0 down at half time on the road to a bogey team is very harsh and I would say, completely out of order. People need to remember that these are young lads and if we get on their backs they are more likely to go into their shells than be inspired. Next time you feel like booing, ask yourself, what would Glen do?



I had a few more on my list, such as fatigue, missing Nicky Shorey, poor refereeing decisions and the winter weather not being condusive to our preferred passing game. But I really wasn't sure anyone would read it.

Despite all the negatives that can be found from our current run, it is important to remember where we are in the league and that we are still in an excellent position. Davies said there would be ups and downs on the run in, and this is definitely a down.

The battle is to patch the wounds and begin a new unbeaten run, picking up three points regularly. West Brom and Newcastle will not be without losses for the rest of the season, if we can steel ourselves and find 10 wins from our last 16, not impossible, then I think that'll take us up.

Our home form has been excellent and with our away results currently being poor, there's a lot riding on the games against Sheffield United and Middlesbrough. We could really do with going to Leicester with a minimum of four points in our pocket and the team's confidence renewed.

I also remain fully behind Davies, even though it might not seem it during that article. Decisions can backfire and even the most famous managers in the world get it wrong from time to time. Davies has pulled the club off its arse and given us a fighting chance of promotion.

It remains a chance and I still believe we will be celebrating come May.
 
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winnits

Guest
The rub of the green. Or the lack thereof.

From where I'm sitting whilst I obviously wish we were performing better, our performances aren't that much different to some seen during the unbeaten run.
 

Baronvon

Jack Burkitt
During our long unbeaten run, amidst the utter thrashings we laid out to certain sides, there were a fair number of games in which we were very lucky to come out of with a draw. Whether this was down to poor refereeing (Watford) or fine goalkeeping (Palace, Sheffield United) we all left those games with a sense that we'd gotten away with it.

The games in which we're finding ourselves on the losing side aren't really that much different to the games I've mentioned above - it's just that we haven't had good fortune entirely on our side.

I'm not worried, slightly disappointed perhaps but such a blip was inevitable at some point. Just a shame a number of fans sat around me today seemed to systematically suffer a loss of perspective the second we fell behind.
 
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winnits

Guest
Agreed. Tuesday will be an interesting game for this, hopefully it can complete a City Ground Sheffield double.
 
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clusternakker

Guest
We need to be up for it on Tuesday as the filth will come and kick lumps out of us as per usual
 

Snake

Youth Team
There's no need to over analyse it and try to come to a scientific conclusion. We're losing similar sorts of games to the ones we were winning/drawing away from home earlier in the season, and also by similar margins. Teams are beginning to make plans for us and have realised that if they can get on top of us then we struggle. It's not that we've done anything different but that other sides have realised how to beat us. The resulting drop in confidence has led to a decreased performance level which in turn has contributed. The onus is on Davies to change the team tactically to make us hard to beat again. Before we were being treated with a lot of respect but everyone's queuing up to quite literally take a swipe at us. We've been bullied in each of our three away defeats. Time to bully back boys.
 

Eastwood Red

Grenville Morris
We have to win on Tuesday if we want to keep our promotion dream alive, end of.
 

Chets Left Peg

First Team Squad
Not scoring first.

When we were winning games, especially away from home, our success was built upon socring the first goal and then either holding onto that lead by defending like bastards or catching the opposition on the break (i.e WBA).

Now when we concede we have to change the gameplan and come at teams which doesn't suit us, we looking panicy chasing a game, not helping by a minority of fans who insist on us resorting to a 'GERRIT****INFORWARD' manner of playing when one down after half an hour. The same fans then complain and complain when it is almost inevitably cleared by a 6'4" centre-back jumping against Robbie Earnshaw.

We've also suffered since McKenna's form took a downturn, he's such a key player and he really knits our team together with his tackling, simple passing and ability to pick up the second ball. Until the beginning of this month I'd have said he was our player of the season so far.

Also we've been found out a little bit, we benefitted from being a surprise package, now teams look at how we setup, both at home and on the road, and try to close us down higher up the pitch, not allowing our centre-backs or McKenna time on the ball to help us build forward, forcing us into the aforementioned long-ball play. Opposition wingers are briefed to track our full-backs, especially Gunter who's influence going forward in recent weeks has noticably diminshed.

They've analysed even to the point that Camp now always has to kick from his hands rather than off the floor, something I noticed Billy Sharp had clearly been asked to do yesterday. The flatter trajectory off the floor makes it easier for Dex, Dele or Cohen to flick on for the likes of Raddy or Earnie to latch onto, a more looping kick from the hands means it's easier for the centre-back and any flick on our player does get won't be quite so effective and more likely to loop into the air and be cleared or at least to make it difficult for the intended recipient of the pass.

Oh and a left-back would have been nice as well...

Good post Brolin by the way.
 

red_outlaw

First Team Squad
The loss of Shorey.

That's certainly affected us far more than people are willing to acknowledge. The balance of the side hasn't been the same since. I accept that we thumped QPR 5-0 without him but at that stage the team was expecting him to return afterwards. That never happened and I think the mental blow that dealt compounded the situation.
 

kezz

Viv Anderson
Forest today lost their third away game on the spin and we are now losing touch with the top two. This isn't necessarily a crisis and the ground we have lost is not impossible to gain, but why have we gone from being unbeatable to not getting results?

Billy Davies' team selection
For the first time in months Davies looks fallable as a manager. Inspired selections from left field that we enjoyed earlier in the season, bringing Moussi straight into the starting line up after eight games out for example, have turned to Garner looking ineffective in the midfield and Adebola being isolated at Doncaster.

Today's team selection was the queerest to date. We have lost all three games by one goal to nil, so the immediate suggestion is that a misfiring attack is more to blame than a defence which has only conceded a goal on the road.

With Earnshaw and Blackstock sitting on the bench, we omitted our two biggest goal threats. So who could we look to score us goals? The leading league scorers in the starting line up were McGugan, Adebola and Majewski, with three goals each. Compare this to Earnshaw and Blackstock, who have 10 each, and it is clear to see we were light up front.

Davies tells us that the players get fatigued and he is right. Forest have been very fortunate with injuries this season and not playing tired players has got to be a massive factor in that.

I would argue that one with Earnshaw or Blackstock has to start every game, because goals win games and without either of them we are toothless.

McKenna losing form
The only notable exceptions to Davies' fatigue worries are Gunter and our captain (obviously excluding Camp from this argument). Gunter is younger than Anderson and Majewski, both players Davies has said will suffer with the fixture pile up, and this is the first full season of first team football of his career.

McKenna is perhaps the most pertinent example. At 32, he is the second oldest player on our books, behind Adebola, and in centre midfield can probably be expected to cover a lot of ground.

During our great run many people mused what would happen if McKenna got injured, so key is he to our plans. We are yet to find out the answer to this, but we are learning that if the skipper is off form, the entire ship seems to struggle.

A new feature of his play since he went off the boil has been this hoik towards the corner flag, while he doesn't seem to be bossing the midfield like before. All players go through bad patches and I am not slating him for this one, but Forest are missing an in-form McKenna badly.

Lack of investment in January
One way of countering McKenna being off form or injured would have been to strengthen the squad. Davies has talked at length about how we needed to invest in January to keep up the top of the table and those words may well have been prophetic.

Perch is not a natural left sided player, Cohen is missed from the midfield. Moussi is not as good a leader as McKenna and is a different sort of player. A natural left sided midfielder is an option we lack.

It isn't easy or cheap bringing in quality in a notoriously difficult January transfer window, but perhaps Forest have missed a trick. I think not getting in a left back of any description is the biggest error of all and one that will have to now be remedied with a loan signing.

Tough games
While we haven't necessarily been playing teams at the top of the league, places like Doncaster and Coventry are difficult venues in their own way. Doncaster is one of the ugliest places I've seen in the country, and I live near Goole.

As there will almost certainly be three teams worse than them, even with a completely inept manager, Derby's season hinged on beat Forest - and they managed it. Local derbies can toss up all sorts of results and you never know which way it will go.

When you lose it is important to respect the opposition, but in some of these games I think we have beaten ourselves rather than letting the other team have a go.

The 'bunny' factor
Named after Colin Calderwood's amazing quote about the Carlisle and Doncaster teams, "they'll be nervous... nervous as bunnies". As we have found out since, rabbits are famously nervous creatures, so are we bottling it?

Forest's recent run has coincided with Davies talking down our chances and flat out refusing to admit that despite operating in the higher reaches of the table, we may just win promotion.

The expectation of the fans has also been brought with this success. Booing the team when 1-0 down at half time on the road to a bogey team is very harsh and I would say, completely out of order. People need to remember that these are young lads and if we get on their backs they are more likely to go into their shells than be inspired. Next time you feel like booing, ask yourself, what would Glen do?



I had a few more on my list, such as fatigue, missing Nicky Shorey, poor refereeing decisions and the winter weather not being condusive to our preferred passing game. But I really wasn't sure anyone would read it.

Despite all the negatives that can be found from our current run, it is important to remember where we are in the league and that we are still in an excellent position. Davies said there would be ups and downs on the run in, and this is definitely a down.

The battle is to patch the wounds and begin a new unbeaten run, picking up three points regularly. West Brom and Newcastle will not be without losses for the rest of the season, if we can steel ourselves and find 10 wins from our last 16, not impossible, then I think that'll take us up.

Our home form has been excellent and with our away results currently being poor, there's a lot riding on the games against Sheffield United and Middlesbrough. We could really do with going to Leicester with a minimum of four points in our pocket and the team's confidence renewed.

I also remain fully behind Davies, even though it might not seem it during that article. Decisions can backfire and even the most famous managers in the world get it wrong from time to time. Davies has pulled the club off its arse and given us a fighting chance of promotion.

It remains a chance and I still believe we will be celebrating come May.

Great post, real decent read.. Agree about the majority, and it could be argued its a little bit of them all. My confidence we'll be back on track still remains all the same..
 

jellyhead

First Team Squad
Lets not write our season off just yet.

We have won 7 home games on the bounce, with a fantastic goal difference.

Tomorrow is going to be tough, but 'if' we can beat Sheff Utd tomorrow there is chance we can be just 2 points off top place again. (having said that i'd be delighted to end up with a play-off place)

one things for sure there is gonna be a lot of surprise results for a lot of teams between now and May.
 
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