What's all this about (Jeff Powell Article)

[yam]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1223704/JEFF-POWELL-My-British-world-managers-time.html?ITO=1490

When quantifying great British managers, I’ve given more weight to the building of clubs from virtually nothing into major powers, rather than the capitalising on going concerns or short-term success.
How come

1 Alex Ferguson
2 Matt Busby
3 Bill Shankley
4 Bob Paisley
5 Don Revie
6 Brian Clough

Did I imagine Brian Clough "building a club from virtually nothing into a major power" in what he achieved at Derby and then repeating it with greater success at Forest?

Man United weren't a going concern when misery guts took them over? Likewise Liverpool when Paisley took the helm?

Its his opinion and he's entitled to it but what's the point of stating your "marking system" if you're not going to give any credence to it by ignoring it. Is there a better example of a club emerging from the obscurity of nothingness to becoming a major power that what Cloughie achieved at Forest?

 

[Tutts]

What you're forgetting is that Jeff Powell is a Wooly haired embittered old man who should have long since been shot.

 

[DanR]

Tutts forgot to mention that Jeff Powell is a vile, bitter, head in the sand, xenophobic old tosser who still lives in the 1950s when players doffed their caps to the King on scoring a goal, and English clubs didn't enter European competition because we were too tired after bailing them all out from the grip of fascism.

 

[Alvar Hanso]

He also looks like that weird kid who went on Wogan then turned into a girl

 

[Spring Heeled Jack]

He also looks like that weird kid who went on Wogan then turned into a girl

f*** me that little git was repulsive!

 

[Randy Bumgardener]

Seen him since the sex change :hey:

 

[Monk De Wally De Honk]

Seen him since the sex change :hey:

You are one sick puppy

:hey:

 

[culli]

"building of clubs from virtually nothing into major powers"
I'd personally vouch Busby having to do that (for a 2nd time) after Munich was more worthy of top spot than any of the other candidates. I would much rather start with what Cloughie had available than what Busby was faced with after the disaster.
As you say though, opinions

 

[sebs]

you have to remember that the daily mail readership are all *****.

 

[sedgred]

you have to remember that the daily mail readership are all c**ts.

That statement is revealing in so much, as to show your total lack of understanding of anyone holding beliefs that do not tally with your own. It shows you are prepared to heap abuse rather than creative debate. A little sad on your part Sebs. I seriously expect better from you.

 

[sebs]

ffs sedge i'm being flippant!!!

 

[Tutts]

That statement is revealing in so much, as to show your total lack of understanding of anyone holding beliefs that do not tally with your own. It shows you are prepared to heap abuse rather than creative debate. A little sad on your part Sebs. I seriously expect better from you.

Come on Sedge, even you can see that's a generalistic jokey little slur.

My parents read the Mail on Sunday. They're not *****.

However, I can imagine that a lot of people that do read it - probably are. It's trash on a par with the Sun though probably not as bad as the Mirror.

 

[wearenottingham]

Come on Sedge, even you can see that's a generalistic jokey little slur.

Nar, if he read the mail everythings blacka or white.


Jeff Powell's a tool, always will be.

 

[clusternakker]

The daily mail hates anyone under 20 stone apart frrom Kate Winslet - shite paper

 

[Alvar Hanso]

The daily mail hates anyone under 20 stone apart frrom Kate Winslet - shite paper

The Daily Mail - the newspaper of choice for fat Nazis

 

[Bridgfordred79]

you have to remember that the daily mail readership are all c**ts.

Yellow card the f***er

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Seen him since the sex change :hey:

I remember seeing the "Soccer Sixes" highlights on TV. Celebrities were invited to play as a county of their choice and invite people to play for them in a mini tournament all in the name of charity. England had Lee Sharpe, Italy had Joe Calzaghe and so on... Jimmy Carr got invited and decided to represent North Korea, in his team he had Britains tallest man, a midget and this person playing in goal. In the first game she took a ball to the face moving her nose a few inches across her face and left in an ambulance. It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen but must have hurt.

 

[Ruby Red]

you have to remember that the daily mail readership are all c**ts.

Id rather be a daily mail reading **** ( which is a paper read by millions who share the same view as I, ) than a Gruadian reading,sandal wearing ,yoghurt knitting **** whose minority readership seem intent on f***ing up my beloved country.Though if i wanted a job teaching rumanian gypsies how to microwave hedgehogs and taech them their rights as they land on these shores and get 60,000 squid and a car into the bargain then thats the paper for me.!

 

[Bridgfordred79]

Id rather be a daily mail reading c**t ( which is a paper read by millions who share the same view as I, ) than a Gruadian reading,sandal wearing ,yoghurt knitting c**t whose minority readership seem intent on f**king up my beloved country.Though if i wanted a job teaching rumanian gypsies how to microwave hedgehogs and taech them their rights as they land on these shores and get 60,000 squid and a car into the bargain then thats the paper for me.!

oooh ooh ooh confrontation, what would a mod do, oh yes, Yellow card the f***er!

 

[winnits]

oooh ooh ooh confrontation, what would a mod do, oh yes, Yellow card the f**ker!

Do you think you could at least try to contribute something worthwhile from time to time?

 

[Bridgfordred79]

google winnits :hey:
http://images.google.co.uk/images?gbv=2&hl=en&sa=1&q=winnits&aq=f&oq=&start=0

got a bit of shock there :hey:

 

[clusternakker]

now thats yellow card material

 

[clusternakker]

not safe for work you arse

 

[wearenottingham]

Id rather be a daily mail reading c**t ( which is a paper read by millions who share the same view as I, ) than a Gruadian reading,sandal wearing ,yoghurt knitting c**t whose minority readership seem intent on f**king up my beloved country.Though if i wanted a job teaching rumanian gypsies how to microwave hedgehogs and taech them their rights as they land on these shores and get 60,000 squid and a car into the bargain then thats the paper for me.!

As informed as any mail reader I see. Thanks fo rproving my point though.

 

[goatboy]

I'd say paying any money for anything that puts the name Revie above the name Clough is cast-iron proof of ****ishness.

Lauren Harries - lives round my way, has a bit of a reputation.