I suppose that's about as 'warm' as statement as you can make when you've just sacked someone.
The word ‘sacked’ has been rumbling around my head today. It has such a negative connotation - tends to imply failure, disharmony etc and it’s ubiquitous in football. And if one of us were booted from our jobs unwillingly then we’ve been sacked, or it’s a tarted up redundancy which is normally still ultimately being sacked.I suppose that's about as 'warm' as statement as you can make when you've just sacked someone.
Yeah- he was brilliant. I feel the same: but he was kind-of sacked, wasn't he?The word ‘sacked’ has been rumbling around my head today. It has such a negative connotation - tends to imply failure, disharmony etc and it’s ubiquitous in football. And if one of us were booted from our jobs unwillingly then we’ve been sacked, or it’s a tarted up redundancy which is normally still ultimately being sacked.
But really in this instance it’s just that we’ve chosen to exercise a break in his contract and go forward with another party. I don’t like reading that we’ve ’sacked’ him - it doesn’t feel like the right word. He was brilliant.
The final 10 league games (W4 D5 L1) saved us and ensured Vitor will always have a place in Forest’s supporters hearts.Pereira ends his time at Forest with 8 wins, 6 draws and 6 defeats. A very solid job.
23 goals scored in 12 PL games.
Not Frank Clark?Cooper, Hart, Pearce, Calderwood, SO'D, Vitor & Sabri are all welcome to me
Edit: the cheesy Frenchman & the Breadman both welcome too, turns out there are probably more we like than don't!
And the L1 was a diabolical decision by a ref, which cost us.The final 10 league games (W4 D5 L1) saved us and ensured Vitor will always have a place in Forest’s supporters hearts.
The only one I still absolutely dislike is M*gson. He should never have been appointed and was a grade A clive hunt all the way through.Cooper, Hart, Pearce, Calderwood, SO'D, Vitor & Sabri are all welcome to me
Edit: the cheesy Frenchman & the Breadman both welcome too, turns out there are probably more we like than don't!
He absolutely was not.He wasn’t sacked
^ Management code for sacked cheaply.He absolutely was not.
There was a contractual break-clause, which either side could have taken. Forest, did.
Simple as that.
If you want some further context for the character of Steve McClaren, consider that he's chosen to work for Derby County on three separate occasions since he quit at Forest.The other bad ones I'm ambivalent to - McLeish, McClaren, Cotterill, Hughton not really there long enough and weren't bad people just terrible managers.
Has it been confirmed anywhere that the clause was mutually exercisable?He absolutely was not.
There was a contractual break-clause, which either side could have taken. Forest, did.
Simple as that.
Megson almost caused me to fall out of love with life, let alone football.If you want some further context for the character of Steve McClaren, consider that he's chosen to work for Derby County on three separate occasions since he quit at Forest.
In all seriousness though, no other manager has caused me to fall out of love with football so quickly (Megson also did it, but slower).
Yes, by the club themselves.Has it been confirmed anywhere that the clause was mutually exercisable?
You're right.Yes, by the club themselves.
Easy to do if you've just skipped the headline. It wouldn't usually appear in that.You're right.
How the f*** did I miss that?
The football wasn't good but the signings didn't even seem like they were C-list to me given we brought in Miller, Derbyshire and Boateng. He was also shafted by us yet again not giving him a LB (and when we got anything like, it was Clint Hill who got sent back to QPR) and also Cohen getting injured. It wasn't just Verhoek which caused him to have a massive rift with Pleat and Arthur over incomings. So I have a fair amount of sympathy for the situation when he wasn't really coming into a top six team due to the key players we had also allowed to leave.If you want some further context for the character of Steve McClaren, consider that he's chosen to work for Derby County on three separate occasions since he quit at Forest.
In all seriousness though, no other manager has caused me to fall out of love with football so quickly (Megson also did it, but slower).
Are you watching on Forest Player? (™)You're right.
How the f*** did I miss that?
He's on a bonfy stream so we still talking to ange about the vacancyAre you watching on Forest Player? (™)
Blimey, you're the first I've seen to go so polarised on VP. Admire your honesty mate (I don't agree though, we were insane those last few games) I suppose we'll find out if the switch was the right move this time next yearHonestly, I'm over the moon VP has gone. I think it's a very ballsy and correct decision by the big man.
Wins against the utterly dire Burnley & Spurs and a stupendously off-form Chelsea form 3/4's of wins to keep us up, and aren't results which instill much confidence of pushing on back to Europe next year.
Kudos to VP for the job he did keeping us up, but that level of job isn't good enough for the long term and we've all been expecting a change in the Summer for months.
The king is dead long live the king.
Thanks.Blimey, you're the first I've seen to go so polarised on VP. Admire your honesty mate (I don't agree though, we were insane those last few games) I suppose we'll find out if the switch was the right move this time next year