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Future of the WFCG? What‘s your preference?


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Loughborough_red

Jack Armstrong
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Two images that just came up on my FB feed- one from 1980 and another from last week.

My question is when were those trees planted? Given their size they look older than 1995 when the Trent End was completed.
 

Mr H

Viv Anderson
Totally agree with this

We live a couple of miles from Man United. The motorways are gridlocked every time they play; the route into Manchester is closed off; the trams are bursting at the seams. That’s what happens when you’re an ambitious city with big events. you just put up with it and avoid the area. Or move house to Warrington.

I don’t think avoiding traffic problems is a realistic objective or one that should be used to delay the expansion by one minute.
Well said.
 

Mr H

Viv Anderson
On a separate note, for the final match of the season, the pitch looked absolutely beautiful. The goal area had been patched up but irrespective the grass was immaculate.

I know the pitch will be dug up and relaid over the summer. What do they do with it? Isn’t it a hybrid plastic type of grass?
Yes, I think all Premier League grounds have hybrid grass but it has far more grass than, say, at the training ground.
 

Listen 'ere young man

Stuart Pearce
The M25 gets gridlocked quite often, when people use it. The poor civilians get a bashing everytime the governments decide there needs to be a war.

Get the fecking nimbies out into the satellite towns if they need to. Everything just take es so long in this country by which time the original idea is probably out of date. Rinse and repeat.
 

Mr H

Viv Anderson
Tbh it was only a small area of Birmingham. Unfortunately our traffic problems has the makings of gridlocking the whole eastern side of the city centre.
And? If Wembley can put up with far greater gridlock over a much wider area on a much more frequent basis - around 60 major events between March and October - Nottingham can.

Objections, unfortunately, show a small scale un-ambitious, small city, mentality.
 

Mr H

Viv Anderson
This is probably an unrealistic flight of fancy but I dream of the days when things like planning are switched on their head - imagine a world where the club (or developers in general) approach the council with their plans and the council say we agree with the overall objective, this will benefit you and the city as a whole. Then the instruction to the likes of planning and all the sub committees etc is to find a way to make it happen rather than the club coming up with ideas only to be continually shot down and repeat and repeat and repeat, life in general would be so much better if attitudes were switched to being can do, rather than finding reasons why not.

When I worked in the pharma and finance sectors we had to put marketing plans etc through compliance and their job was seemingly always just to find a way to say no, now in principle I'm ok with that as we shouldn't break guidelines etc - but never did them come back and say "you can't say X but you could say Y" - baffling.
“This is probably an unrealistic flight of fancy but I dream of the days when things like planning are switched on their head - imagine a world where the club (or developers in general) approach the council with their plans and the council say we agree with the overall objective, this will benefit you and the city as a whole. Then the instruction to the likes of planning and all the sub committees etc is to find a way to make it happen rather than the club coming up with ideas only to be continually shot down and repeat and repeat and repeat, life in general would be so much better if attitudes were switched to being can do, rather than finding reasons why not.”

This is what happens in mainland Europe.

Areas are zoned and, as long as the application meets the criteria for the zone, it is approved with a positive, can do, attitude, and there is no room for objections.
 

Mr H

Viv Anderson
Spot on. Could you imagine adding up the incremental cost increases that are caused by intransigent council planning departments with a culture of just saying no and pushing it back across the table each time unnecessarily extending start dates by years.
Can’t they just say do this, this and this and you’ll get the approval stamp.
Again: what happens in major European economies which results in hugely quicker build times and reduced cost.

Our planning law and system is broken - much like GB.
 

donny

Jack Burkitt
“This is probably an unrealistic flight of fancy but I dream of the days when things like planning are switched on their head - imagine a world where the club (or developers in general) approach the council with their plans and the council say we agree with the overall objective, this will benefit you and the city as a whole. Then the instruction to the likes of planning and all the sub committees etc is to find a way to make it happen rather than the club coming up with ideas only to be continually shot down and repeat and repeat and repeat, life in general would be so much better if attitudes were switched to being can do, rather than finding reasons why not.”

This is what happens in mainland Europe.

Areas are zoned and, as long as the application meets the criteria for the zone, it is approved with a positive, can do, attitude, and there is no room for objections.
Its far been the issue over here where one minor thing, can hold up an entire application. It doesn't help when you've got about a dozen different agencies, all responsible for their foot of earth (such as Highways with one council, utilities with others, and planning with other areas), and each has different thresholds to be reached for permissions..
 

sammy the snake

John Robertson
The M25 gets gridlocked quite often, when people use it. The poor civilians get a bashing everytime the governments decide there needs to be a war.

Get the fecking nimbies out into the satellite towns if they need to. Everything just take es so long in this country by which time the original idea is probably out of date. Rinse and repeat.
Spot on mate

I’m a part time anarchist. It boils my piss that people can’t be arsed to cause mayhem for the nonces in power. There’s so many little things you can do 😂
Cracks me up to hear “Russian bots” perverting democracy…. It’s not Russian bots that they need to be worried about!
 

Britcoin

A. Trialist
If the meeting in Leeds was attended by Rushcliffe BC who seemingly weren’t against Nicolas Randell proposing Trent Sports Village, surely the club must have some degree of confidence that they will get this over the line. I am guessing the lack of pushing it to a meeting in May must have to be down to getting as many as the objections resolved beforehand.
 

Listen 'ere young man

Stuart Pearce
Spot on mate

I’m a part time anarchist. It boils my piss that people can’t be arsed to cause mayhem for the nonces in power. There’s so many little things you can do 😂
Cracks me up to hear “Russian bots” perverting democracy…. It’s not Russian bots that they need to be worried about!
Divide and conquer and fear is their tried and tested MO.

So and so is going to do xyz if we don't do abc etc.

Warraloadofbollox.
 

Notcher

Ian Bowyer
I see that some Lady Bay councilor is raising petitions to get parking restrictions applied on sporting days.

Needless to say, as an educated woman, she doesn't offer any solutions.
People like that never do. They just bitch, whinge and moan and offer zero solutions. In fairness it's because they don't have any due to being thicker than a boxing day turd.
 

FLC

Viv Anderson
If the meeting in Leeds was attended by Rushcliffe BC who seemingly weren’t against Nicolas Randell proposing Trent Sports Village, surely the club must have some degree of confidence that they will get this over the line. I am guessing the lack of pushing it to a meeting in May must have to be down to getting as many as the objections resolved beforehand.
Hang on, we’re building our new stadium in Leeds?
 

pk44

A. Trialist
Hang on, we’re building our new stadium in Leeds?
I think it was that Trent Sports Village was revealed at the UK Real Estate Investment & Infrastructure Forum which was in Leeds. Basically a conference for consultants to congratulate themselves about what a wonderful job they are doing regenerating the UK....
 

JonnoSnr

Jack Armstrong
If the meeting in Leeds was attended by Rushcliffe BC who seemingly weren’t against Nicolas Randell proposing Trent Sports Village, surely the club must have some degree of confidence that they will get this over the line. I am guessing the lack of pushing it to a meeting in May must have to be down to getting as many as the objections resolved beforehand.
I'll believe it when I see it. They've been talking about it for years with seemingly no movement forward at all.
 
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