MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
We may have gone down if the two teams we came up with were as toss as the six in the last two seasons.
Leeds only took 3 points from their four games vs Fulham & Bournemouth.
Leicester took zero.
The Relegation Dogfight 24/25
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We may have gone down if the two teams we came up with were as toss as the six in the last two seasons.
Leeds only took 3 points from their four games vs Fulham & Bournemouth.
Leicester took zero.
valspoodle
Ian Bowyer
I think back to the darker days when it was said more than once that we really didn't want to go up.
I forget the exact reasons quoted, but we were happy playing in a league where we won a few, lost a few and everybody had a chance. Not like in the Prem with the Top6 and the rest.
I'm sort of changing my mind. At the moment I love it here!
I forget the exact reasons quoted, but we were happy playing in a league where we won a few, lost a few and everybody had a chance. Not like in the Prem with the Top6 and the rest.
I'm sort of changing my mind. At the moment I love it here!
Wolves are the main candidate.
It's near enough certain that they'll have lost by far their best player, and if you talk to any of their fans there's almost a resignation that Cunha won't be the only departure, and that they won't reinvest much of the money.
DizzyBala
Jack Burkitt
I said that and looking at what has happened with the league since we've came up, I think it was probably about right. No matter where you are as a club, you want to have a chance of competing and it was the Southampton/Sheffield United scenario that worried me the most in that situation Val.
That being said, it's alright this aint it?
ARedChester
Viv Anderson
I have always said that Man City were an amenable team, generous and not the self centered bunch of knob heads many say.
This is proven as they risked their CL qualification by allowing Southampton to gain a point; and thereby beat Derby's utter tripe of an embarrassing 11 point total for the season.
This is selfless commitment for mankind.
Thank you Pep.
This is proven as they risked their CL qualification by allowing Southampton to gain a point; and thereby beat Derby's utter tripe of an embarrassing 11 point total for the season.
This is selfless commitment for mankind.
Thank you Pep.
Larry Lansbury
Geoff Thomas
Just reading on BBC Sport that Russell Martin is being lined up for Rangers. And the article includes the below.
‘Football coach and analyst John Walker has undertaken extensive analysis of Martin's managerial career and believes many people misunderstand his style’
"I think there's a misconception of it being very passive in possession for possession's sake," he told BBC Scotland.
"To me, anytime I've watched MK Dons, Swansea or Southampton - more the latter in the Championship - it was actually really forward attacking play.
"It was very fast forward. It wasn't too dissimilar, though not the exact same in patterns, to Postecoglou's Celtic.
What a load of nonsense by this ‘analyst’ -there is no misconception and it is passive and possession for the sake of possession. I fondly remember the 5-1 hammering we gave Martin when he was managing Swansea and his utterly bizarre pretentious goal kicks that were laughable. They had 70% of the ball and triple the number of passes!!
‘Football coach and analyst John Walker has undertaken extensive analysis of Martin's managerial career and believes many people misunderstand his style’
"I think there's a misconception of it being very passive in possession for possession's sake," he told BBC Scotland.
"To me, anytime I've watched MK Dons, Swansea or Southampton - more the latter in the Championship - it was actually really forward attacking play.
"It was very fast forward. It wasn't too dissimilar, though not the exact same in patterns, to Postecoglou's Celtic.
What a load of nonsense by this ‘analyst’ -there is no misconception and it is passive and possession for the sake of possession. I fondly remember the 5-1 hammering we gave Martin when he was managing Swansea and his utterly bizarre pretentious goal kicks that were laughable. They had 70% of the ball and triple the number of passes!!
TrentEndGaribaldi
Reidy
Agreed,
I don’t know what he’s been watching if he thinks Russell Martin sides play with anything other than a slow intensity
Monkman
Jack Burkitt
Late reply to this, but we only took one point from four games vs Fulham and Bournemouth, so that surely balances itself out.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
That's what I mean. If Fulham and Bournemouth weren't as good as they were that season, and instead they were more like a Sheff Utd or Southampton of the last two years, then Leeds and Leicester probably would have beat them given the relative strength of squads, whereas I'm not quite sure we would have. That may have been enough to edge us into 17th place.
It was a really strange season in the bottom half with all three promoted sides staying up, I don't think that'll happen again for a very, very long time.
Monkman
Jack Burkitt
I think we would have got more than 1 point - we got 6 from Southampton in 22/23 after all, who at the time were better than the last 6 to be relegated (including 24/25 Saints).
Also (luckily for 23/24 Forest) 17th keeps you up...
And how many goals were conceded because of Russell Martin’s obsession with playing out from the back?
Worse than Kompany and Burnley and they were bad enough.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
I'm starting to think the first season should be exempted from the limits at the very least, if not all three so that everyone has the same limit.
they should scrape this psr nonsense especially for promoted clubs. leeds, sunderland and burnley are going to struggle next season.
I guess it depends how much they want promoted sides to upset the applecart
Promoted teams don’t have a fair chance as they are constrained by the lower Championship losses; really unfair.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
It'll never be changed because the Premier League clubs would be the ones voting for it and why would they vote for that.
The rules are working as intended
The rules are working as intended
Rubics
Bin VAR!
Nail on the head - they don’t. It’s like the European prize money rules, all designed to keep the tourist clubs at the top. The sooner we get back to sporting contests, rather than shirt (or hotel) selling contests the better!
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
17 clubs who avoided the drop to vote in favour of cutting slack to newly promoted clubs?
Not going to happen, is it?
Not when the growing number of American owners want to put an end to relgation so as to "protect their investment".
Ashley
Ian Bowyer
I think FFP/PSR/whatever it's called this week should be scrapped and owners should be able to spend what they want provided they can prove they can afford it.
But as Rzar says, that won't happen as the rules are doing what they are really meant to; maintaining the status quo.
But as Rzar says, that won't happen as the rules are doing what they are really meant to; maintaining the status quo.
Larry Lansbury
Geoff Thomas
The rule that clubs coming up have lower loss thresholds, compared to the established clubs is ridiculous. and that it takes until the 3 year in prem to lose, is it up to £120m a year. I still don’t think we get enough credit for keeping up after 23 years out of the prem-and were basically ridiculed for attempting it by buying lots of players. Interesting that John Percy said similar and his gripe was that Ispwich-who had spent relatively big, with a manager touted very highly and how everyone loved watching them -were pretty abysmal and were so far from staying up- but the media have not particularly painted a negative narrative.