The Ref got it right!

[Rudgey]

If you look at the highlights on BBC and see a replay of the penalty incident it looks like Pratley crops himself up without any touch from Cohen.

The only possible contact with Cohen would happen when Pratley draws his leg back to shoot so no foul can be given for kicking someone when shooting.

Anyone else agree or am I just biased?

 

[barky]

You're biased, very biased.

 

[Jonathan]

Cohen's shin hits Pratley's calf as he pulls his leg back to shoot. That causes Pratley's legs to collide and makes him fall over.

Foul, penalty and a red card. For sure.

If it was the other way round, I'd have been incensed.

 

[Daniel]

It is only a penalty if the referee is in no doubt contact was made. If however there is doubt, and the referee is unsure he should not give a penalty. Remember we've had the benefit of replays and hindsight. The doubt was enough to not award a penalty. I would say the same if it was us!

 

[Rudgey]

Does Cohen's shin hit Pratley's leg or does Pratley's leg hit Cohen's shin?

If Pratley is moving his leg to shoot then it appears to be the second one to me.

I am being a bit of a Devil's Advocate here as video replays can show many different things from many different angles and without refs making honest mistakes then we would live in a very boring world.

 

[cuppachump]

Cohen's shin hits Pratley's calf as he pulls his leg back to shoot. That causes Pratley's legs to collide and makes him fall over.

Foul, penalty and a red card. For sure.

If it was the other way round, I'd have been incensed.

Red Card my arse... I say bring back the two-footed knee-high studs-up man-or-ball tackle-from-behind (modern strikers are like a bunch of namby-pamby, help-me-ref, flower-arranging, softies)

 

[Flaggers]

If you look at the highlights on BBC and see a replay of the penalty incident it looks like Pratley crops himself up without any touch from Cohen.

The only possible contact with Cohen would happen when Pratley draws his leg back to shoot so no foul can be given for kicking someone when shooting.

Anyone else agree or am I just biased?

Which highlights are you watching?!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/nottm_forest/default.stm

3 mins 56 seconds into the clip, how can you have any doubt that it's about as clear a penalty as you'll see....

 

[Dadford]

The highlights indicate Forest should have had a penalty.

 

[JtheNorwegianRed]

I'll agree that it is a penalty, but it's never a red card. If the ref had to give a red card if he gave the penalty, he was right not to blow. Cohen is chasing after him, and when Pratley "slows down" to take the shot, Cohen runs into one of his legs while he's trying to shoot. It's a penalty, but a red card would've been very harsh!

But Gunter should've had 2 penalties this season, and on both occasions it was much worse than the one on Saturday. That being said, we shouldn't have got the one vs Wednesday!

 

[Monk De Wally De Honk]

Pratly went down from his left leg, his right foot was pulled back ready to shoot, but I think the initial contact made him fall over

feck it, who cares?

 

[FBS]

Sitting in lower trent end it didn't look at penalty at all at the time.

Looking at the replay.....hmmmm... possibly.......could be.....

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

I'm still not convinced.

Chambers however should however have had a penalty awarded against him. Moments before he did the ridiculous backheel he pulled Pratley back by the shirt in order to get to the ball first. Much more clear cut than the Cohen one for me.

 

[Jonathan]

Of course it would be a red card.

It's a goalscoring opportunity and Cohen's the last man. Therefore, if it's a penalty, it's a red.

We got very lucky.

 

[adam09]

If Pratley's leg hit Cohen's shin as he pulled back to shoot, that is still a foul by Cohen... it's obstruction.

However, I'd be devastated to see a red card given for that. It's not like he did what Vidic did and pull the guy back and THEN slide tackle him down as well. The rules need refining for incidents like this... penalty and a yellow card unless it's something obviously very dirty like what Vidic did.

 

[JtheNorwegianRed]

Well, if that's a red card, the rule is stupid.. and shold be changed!

 

[Hoax]

Its easy for someone to make a judgement through a replay that is a close up and at mutliple angles. The ref had 2 seconds to make a decision and he was stood in a position where Cohen would have been blocking his view of any contact. Easy mistake to be made IMO. Who gives a f*** anyway it was a penalty shout that wasnt given against us we should be laughing

 

[yam]

If you look at the highlights on BBC and see a replay of the penalty incident it looks like Pratley crops himself up without any touch from Cohen.

The only possible contact with Cohen would happen when Pratley draws his leg back to shoot so no foul can be given for kicking someone when shooting.

Anyone else agree or am I just biased?

 

[Ravi]

Clear penalty and a red card (as it was for Shorey in his last act in a Forest shirt).

However, it wasnt given and natural justice prevailed because the team that created most chances won the game.

 

[Daniel]

Actually just looking at the laws of the game, as I mentioned earlier it is all about the intentions of Cohen and how the referee interperates this. Personally with the positioning I feel Pratley has caught Cohens leg when attempting to shoot and Cohen simply was unable to avoid contact. He did not attempt a tackle, he did not attempt to foul, he was simply close to his apponent. This is perfectly legal in the laws of the game. If you want to be pedantic an indirect free kick should've been awarded as he in theory Cohen 'Impedes the progress of an apposing player' (Law 12 indirect free kick)

Law 13 States the position of the 'indirect free kick'

However it's all about the interperatation of the referee and I think he called it right!

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandRegulations/~/media/Files/PDF/Get%20into%20Football/Referees/lawsofthegameen_0910.ashx/lawsofthegameen_0910.pdf

Plus Paulo Sousa is a sour faced dago!!

 

[PSR]

If you look at the highlights on BBC and see a replay of the penalty incident it looks like Pratley crops himself up without any touch from Cohen.

The only possible contact with Cohen would happen when Pratley draws his leg back to shoot so no foul can be given for kicking someone when shooting.

Anyone else agree or am I just biased?

Sorry mate but had it been one of our players in the same situation YOU & everyone else would be filling this forum telling the world what a w@nker the Ref was. But I loved the decision and loved the ref for it but everything else he did was SH!TE.

 

[adam09]

It's not all about intentions. "Trips OR attempts to trip an opponent" is the rule, which obviously includes doing it accidently.

Cohen ran into the back of Pratley's legs and caused him to fall over. If it's not a foul why is it given 9 times out of 10, especially when 6 or 7 of those are accidental too.

 

[Rudgey]

As I stated in a later post I was playing Devil's Advocate on this and when the same has happened to us this season I would have been calling the ref but it is my right to be a hypocrite like all football fans.

 

[RRRREDUN]

It's about time we had some real luck. We've had games recently that we could have had something from with either better decisions or better luck. I don't feel sorry for the Swans nor Pratley (who may have done himself no favours by doing a bit of diving earlier in the game). All I know is that we were largely outplayed at times on Saturday, but showed REAL character - I was proud of the boys. Also, we had most of the real chances. The right result. Automatic promotion now lads!

 

[Annesley Red]

The Great Man said
"I agree with the refs decision , be it good, bad or indifferent"

Im with him
One - nil to the famous team....

 

[Red Duster]

I was in the trent end, I thought prat dived, telly replays show i was wrong, cohen tapped his foot so prat kicked his other leg and fell. Ref and his assistant were further away from the incident than I was, they shouldn't make decisions like that unless thay are sure.

We wont be so lucky at Sid James, Old Trafford or the haemorrhoids (spelling from wiki)