The Mood

[tomasj]

I thought Forest were top six candidates, really.

 

[Cloughie1975]

At the end of last season, regardless of what happened then, I don't think any of us could imagine the implosion this season.

It was just so spectacular and sudden. Many even thought the recruitment was reasonable!

I expected a difficult season given our European commitments,VP-but we haven’t helped ourselves one bit!

 

[hannahd]

I actually predicted 19th place so we've done better than I thought.

 

[GregorRobertson]

I actually predicted 19th place so we've done better than I thought.

So far.

 

[Hector Salamanca]

The reality is if we are relegated, it is our own fault.

I think it's fair to say a lot of forum users (of the forum, not drugs) are in their twilight/golden years and if it takes Forest something similiar to last time to get back into rhe PL, they could be watching Forest in the PL for the last time.

So sit back and try to enjoy PL football whilst you can, even if it's painful to watch

 

[TrentEnder1865]

All it takes is a positive result for us somewhere along the line and the gap could be two games worth at the minute. We were terrible yesterday but hopefully we’re now at the point where the priority is premier league survival and we won’t see such a tired performance again.

 

[GregorRobertson]

Worst case scenario after Wednesday is a point below 17th with nearly a quarter of the season to go. I reckon we can do this if we stick together. And someone in red figures out where the net is.

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

So these fairies can't play under an all out attack manager or a defensive one or one that likes to press and gives them licence to be themselves or 2 games per week.

Time to find another job then.

Or just play 2 games properly and get 6 points, you can stroll to defeats in the other 2, how about that as an idea guys?

 

[Tricky Tourist]

I'd be more confident about a quick return, should we drop, if we had a few exciting youngsters who were good enough to make an impression. As far as I'm aware we only have Abbot who hasn't greatly impressed.

I had hopes for Jimmy Sinclair but he appears to have been removed from the first team orbit in recent months.

 

[All I want is a boat]

I thought Forest were top six candidates, really.

I put a bet on that too! This team is capable of that for sure, but a mental season has clearly taken a toll. Can’t be easy, regardless of the pay packet.

I also put a bet on Chris Wood being top PL goalscorer.

When the fun stops. Stop.

 

[Ewan Husami]

Think I said 15th (but win a cup too) i'd rip your upper torso off for 15th now

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I put a bet on that too! This team is capable of that for sure, but a mental season has clearly taken a toll. Can’t be easy, regardless of the pay packet.

I also put a bet on Chris Wood being top PL goalscorer.

When the fun stops. Stop.

Even with Wood back, without a genuine Elanga replacement this squad is currently not capable of a top 6 finish IMO

There's a reason we finished 7th last year even with them here. We lack depth and goals from other areas.

 

[Captain Sinister]

Even with Wood back, without a genuine Elanga replacement this squad is currently not capable of a top 6 finish IMO

There's a reason we finished 7th last year even with them here. We lack depth and goals from other areas.

Last season every player played the best they had ever done in their careers, and the squad also formed a great team.
Sels won the Golden Gloves, and was injury free.
Aina was the best RB in the Prem and was injury free.
Milenkovic and Murillo were impregnable.
Willian’s was the best LB in the Prem and injury free.
Anderson, Gibbs-White, Wood, Elanga, and Hudson-Odoi were on fire.
This season Sels has suffered injuries and been shaken.
Aina is still trying to get over a serious injury and is a shadow of last season’s class.
Milenkovic and Murillo look like strangers this season.
Williams has been Mr Consistent.
Sangare has finally come of age.
Anderson is inconsistent.
MGW has improved recently after last summer’s farce.
Wood has been out since netting twice in the opening game of the season.
Elanga has gone, and CHO blows cold, and occasionally mildly warm.
4 managers, recruitment run by headless chickens, and an owner blinded by his own ego.
No one need say more to account for our reversion to a struggling provincial make-weight.

 

[billygrayonthe bus]

Last season every player played the best they had ever done in their careers, and the squad also formed a great team.
Sels won the Golden Gloves, and was injury free.
Aina was the best RB in the Prem and was injury free.
Milenkovic and Murillo were impregnable.
Willian’s was the best LB in the Prem and injury free.
Anderson, Gibbs-White, Wood, Elanga, and Hudson-Odoi were on fire.
This season Sels has suffered injuries and been shaken.
Aina is still trying to get over a serious injury and is a shadow of last season’s class.
Milenkovic and Murillo look like strangers this season.
Williams has been Mr Consistent.
Sangare has finally come of age.
Anderson is inconsistent.
MGW has improved recently after last summer’s farce.
Wood has been out since netting twice in the opening game of the season.
Elanga has gone, and CHO blows cold, and occasionally mildly warm.
4 managers, recruitment run by headless chickens, and an owner blinded by his own ego.
No one need say more to account for our reversion to a struggling provincial make-weight.

Most of that is factual but I think that labelling Anderson as "inconsistent" is very harsh. Like MGW recently he has tried almost too hard and this leads to mistakes. Overall his level of performance rates amongst the very best that I have seen in a Reds shirt and I've seen them from Colin Addison onwards!

 

[Gaz1980]

Said bottom 7 all along.

Losing Elanga was huge as he was a massive goal threat and losing Wood for most of the season makes things 10 x worse from a scoring point of view. They haven't been replaced properly.

Last season was our pinnacle and mostly everything went for us. This season is the complete opposite.

I'll say is again - bad recruitment has cost us big time!

Edu - are you still in the building?

 

[Baronvon]

It's just been a bit shit, really.

 

[redforest]

It’s not something that comes to me easily, to accuse some players of checking out but I do think it is now happening. The fact we have so few alternatives to the regular starting XI does complicate the issue, as does the confusion created by having 4 managers, each with a different approach to playing styles and man-management.
Throw EM’s volatile interventions with players and managers and it is a right poisonous club to be at. Us fans seem to have been forgotten about as interested parties. The club seems to see us purely as economic units.

All this talk of players checking out, looking to move in the summer and not trying is frankly ridiculous. What about the players for the other teams down there? According to folk on here they’re all busting a gut, getting results and sending us down. Again completely ridiculous- we’ve had some cracking performances this season just not enough to be safe, it’s still all to play for and both the players and the manager know this. Stop the booing and get behind the team, we are actually in quite a lot better position at this stage of the season than our first season back up and have far better players. Puts tin hat on and quickly retreats.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

All this talk of players checking out, looking to move in the summer and not trying is frankly ridiculous. What about the players for the other teams down there? According to folk on here they’re all busting a gut, getting results and sending us down. Again completely ridiculous- we’ve had some cracking performances this season just not enough to be safe, it’s still all to play for and both the players and the manager know this. Stop the booing and get behind the team, we are actually in quite a lot better position at this stage of the season than our first season back up and have far better players. Puts tin hat on and quickly retreats.

Tend to agree.

Our performances seem to be a mix of lack of confidence, unbalanced squad and too much manager attrition rather than players chucking the towel in. Might be a couple of them doing it but there's no lack of effort in the starting eleven, they're just very fragile.

Think it's the same for West Ham as well. They're trying hard but like us, they concede sloppy goals late on to throw away points and have done for a while.

The team that stays up will be the one who flukes a couple of results. It won't be pretty, no team is suddenly going to put 2PPG until end of season. At this point there's little more logic than just praying Forest are the beneficiaries of said luck.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Said bottom 7 all along.

Losing Elanga was huge as he was a massive goal threat and losing Wood for most of the season makes things 10 x worse from a scoring point of view. They haven't been replaced properly.

Last season was our pinnacle and mostly everything went for us. This season is the complete opposite.

I'll say is again - bad recruitment has cost us big time!

Edu - are you still in the building?

Same here. Just with Europe being on the cards, my expectation was to finish between 15th and 12th at best because of that extra burden. Even if we'd have signed some great second-string players, they've still got a bed in. The team's still got to gel. It's still new to a lot of players. You've got to be realistic about it.

 

[Cloughie1975]

All this talk of players checking out, looking to move in the summer and not trying is frankly ridiculous. What about the players for the other teams down there? According to folk on here they’re all busting a gut, getting results and sending us down. Again completely ridiculous- we’ve had some cracking performances this season just not enough to be safe, it’s still all to play for and both the players and the manager know this. Stop the booing and get behind the team, we are actually in quite a lot better position at this stage of the season than our first season back up and have far better players. Puts tin hat on and quickly retreats.

We are in an almost identical position to our first season back (27 points from 28 games in both campaigns
and 1 point clear from relegation in 22/23 and 2 points this year).

I think what has caused disenchantment amongst many supporters is that they can see the obvious mistakes that
have been made which are likely to drag us down whereas in our first season back most of us were just enjoying
the ride regardless.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

We are in an almost identical position to our first season back (27 points from 28 games in both campaigns
and 1 point clear from relegation in 22/23 and 2 points this year).

I think what has caused disenchantment amongst many supporters is that they can see the obvious mistakes that
have been made which are likely to drag us down whereas in our first season back most of us were just enjoying
the ride regardless.

First season back the manager and most of the squad were likeable too.

This season it's hard to back a manager who's only been here for 3 hours and will likely leave before the afternoon is done, and most of the players we've signed are also so half-arsed that it's impacted on the wider squad likability as well.

I could really get behind Cooper's Forest. Felt like there was a real connection between players, club, fans, city etc. We did things the right way. This iteration of Forest just seems like an unfolding corporate collapse that is going against everything that made it great in the previous years.

Forest are basically the footballing equivalent of BrewDog.

 

[GregorRobertson]

We're two or three results off where we might have expected to be. The biggest factor is utterly ballsing up the pool of strikers we have available to us. The rest is just noise. Albeit unhelpful noise that isn't helping much either.

 

[Cloughie1975]

First season back the manager and most of the squad were likeable too.

This season it's hard to back a manager who's only been here for 3 hours and will likely leave before the afternoon is done, and most of the players we've signed are also so half-arsed that it's impacted on the wider squad likability as well.

Also we were massive underdogs in the first season which got the crowd right behind us.

I don’t think that many supporters were expecting us to be in deep trouble with 10 games left this season.

 

[redforest]

Last season every player played the best they had ever done in their careers, and the squad also formed a great team.
Sels won the Golden Gloves, and was injury free.
Aina was the best RB in the Prem and was injury free.
Milenkovic and Murillo were impregnable.
Willian’s was the best LB in the Prem and injury free.
Anderson, Gibbs-White, Wood, Elanga, and Hudson-Odoi were on fire.
This season Sels has suffered injuries and been shaken.
Aina is still trying to get over a serious injury and is a shadow of last season’s class.
Milenkovic and Murillo look like strangers this season.
Williams has been Mr Consistent.
Sangare has finally come of age.
Anderson is inconsistent.
MGW has improved recently after last summer’s farce.
Wood has been out since netting twice in the opening game of the season.
Elanga has gone, and CHO blows cold, and occasionally mildly warm.
4 managers, recruitment run by headless chickens, and an owner blinded by his own ego.
No one need say more to account for our reversion to a struggling provincial make-weight.

Yep mostly correct but like others I would question labelling Anderson as inconsistent is very harsh - he has been our best player in many games and in top 3 in most. Last season all the stars aligned and we had an incredible season with an absolute purple patch in the middle. It fizzled out towards the end and this season has continued in a similar vein. We also haven’t had Wood and even if we had it would have been an absolute miracle for him to repeat his conversion rate. We will all look back on last season as a very enjoyable one off, much like 1995, 1967 and 1959 before - the only time we have not been a provincial club trying to keep up with the big boys was the glory years under king Brian and for that we should all be grateful- well those of us over 50 anyway.

 

[Captain Sinister]

Most of that is factual but I think that labelling Anderson as "inconsistent" is very harsh. Like MGW recently he has tried almost too hard and this leads to mistakes. Overall his level of performance rates amongst the very best that I have seen in a Reds shirt and I've seen them from Colin Addison onwards!

Maybe I was harsh on Anderson, but I do think his performance levels have dropped off, as have most of the players levels.
confusion from 4 different mnagers and the incoming players being less than great successes will have contributed.
I agree Ando has been brilliant, but particularly since the turn of the year he has looked like he is not very happy with the chaos around him and in the off-field support services.