The demise of Leicester City

gurru991

gurru991

Leicester Supporter
Erik said:
I don't know if this has been asked already so apologies if it has but here's a question - Are the parachute payments from the EPL rules or EFL rules? or at least written into the EPL rules?

Because Leicester claim they were not subject to EPL rules whilst in the Championship. Shouldn't they therefore be giving back the parachute payments they got from the EPL due to rules they weren't subjected to?
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The parachute payments are specifically paid to relegated teams so Leicester qualified for the payments due to being relegated.
The Premier League did not have the jurisdiction to punish the Foxes as the club had been relegated to the EFL Championship when their accounting period ended on 30 June 2023.
Parachute payments & PSR penalties are not connected & have no bearing on each other.
 
gurru991

gurru991

Leicester Supporter
Erik said:
If there are any positives to take from this it's that at least this time no local businesses were deliberately sent under.
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That is definitely a black mark on our history !!
This is just a pissing match between the Premier League & Leicester & I don't have a problem with it. Leicester pushed back instead of rolling over & happy that they did. We found a loophole & made the big dogs look a little foolish !!
 
Erik

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
gurru991 said:
That is definitely a black mark on our history !!
This is just a pissing match between the Premier League & Leicester & I don't have a problem with it. Leicester pushed back instead of rolling over & happy that they did. We found a loophole & made the big dogs look a little foolish !!
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They did and it was very clever of them. To be honest, after what happened to us last season I have no problem with someone showing the EPL up for what they are and I really hope that Richard 'big clubs' Masters has to walk because of it. He won't though.

However, it remains to be seen how other clubs, who have had to make substantial sacrifices to stay within the rules Leicester dodged by didn't of smart practice feel about it. Similarly Chelsea and Manchester City, although as 'big clubs' they operate under a different set of (unwritten) rules.

I also suspect the EPL, having been made fools of, won't make a second mistake and I understand that the EFL, having seen Leicester exploit one loophole, made changes to their rules (whilst Leicester were members) which now does allow them to be able to charge successfully a club in the Premier League for financial misdemeanours whilst in their league.

I think this has some way to go yet. It may have to wait until January, but it still has legs.
 
Senior Flange Technician

Senior Flange Technician

Andy!
I suppose the the only way to measure is if relegation and the use of it to curtail a points deduction caused more harm than staying up and having points deduction would have. Still, it shows the ineptitude of the EPL and their rules.
 
MaxiRobriguez

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
I'm finding it hard to be annoyed at Leicester for dodging rules which none us think are fair or equitable.

And if this little shindig of theirs leads to a greater exposure of the rules being not fit for purpose then so be it.

Let's face it breaking the rules in the Prem didn't help Leicester and chances are even with a points deduction last season they'd have probably gone up anyway. So they've not gained from this so far, and they'll probably go back down again this season anyway.
 
Master Yates

Master Yates

Stuart Pearce
gurru991 said:
A question for the Cooper fans.
He has started each game so far with an extremely defensive lineup (3 defensive mids) & waited till we've gone behind before bringing on attacking players. We look terrible before the changes & way better after the changes but he makes the changes so late that we have struggled to get back in the games.
Is this a typical game plan for Cooper or is this a new approach for him ????
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It’s how he manages dogshit clubs with crap players.

Didn’t see much of it here


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Erik

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
gurru991 said:
That is definitely a black mark on our history !!
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Idle curiosity but you seem on the face of it to have been decent -

What about the time you got promoted to the Premier League by totally ignoring the (then) Championship financial rules and smashing them out of the park when other clubs were struggling to stay within them.

A bit like QPR you only got a paltry fine which led to another set of rules changes.

Was that cheating another black mark or a proud case of Leicester proudly sticking it to the rest of the football World?

Maybe the tone of the question is a bit blunt but curious to know how that is viewed.
 
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BristolfaninPeace

Youth Team
MaxiRobriguez said:
I'm finding it hard to be annoyed at Leicester for dodging rules which none us think are fair or equitable.

And if this little shindig of theirs leads to a greater exposure of the rules being not fit for purpose then so be it.

Let's face it breaking the rules in the Prem didn't help Leicester and chances are even with a points deduction last season they'd have probably gone up anyway. So they've not gained from this so far, and they'll probably go back down again this season anyway.
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The funny thing is if they drop straight back they'll suddenly be on a £61m limit, and the EFL have tightened up again this Summer.

2 and 1..but Stefan Borson has quoted an Everton fan and said that LCFC *could* be at £105m this season. I'll try and find the Tweet.

£105m this season, £83m in the Assessment to 2024-25...T seems to mean something different in the Championship to the PL.
 
gurru991

gurru991

Leicester Supporter
Erik said:
Idle curiosity but you seem on the face of it to have been decent -

What about the time you got promoted to the Premier League by totally ignoring the (then) Championship financial rules and smashing them out of the park when other clubs were struggling to stay within them.

A bit like QPR you only got a paltry fine which led to another set of rules changes.

Was that cheating another black mark or a proud case of Leicester proudly sticking it to the rest of the football World?

Maybe the tone of the question is a bit blunt but curious to know how that is viewed.
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The bankruptcy was poor due to how it affected many small businesses in the Leicester area.
We do have a history of finding loopholes & abusing them & I have mixed feelings about that. I would probably be upset if another club did it but my dislike of the Premier League rule makers who enable the big six shades my opinion. I watch as Chelsea sell their own hotels to themselves & Man C make up fake sponsors while the lower placed clubs are the one who gets points deductions.
I would be much happier if we could learn to run the club properly without having to resort to the dubious tactics but as long as we have Jon Rudkin calling the shots it will always be shady.

My apologies for such a long winded answer
 
Red Dawn

Red Dawn

John Robertson
The Fester boards are an absolute travesty, most seem to want Cooper out already, what exactly do they expect with that shite squad they have?

He's far too good of them. Once the inevitable happens we won't hold it against you Steve.
 
Project Zeus

Project Zeus

Steve Chettle
Red Dawn said:
The Fester boards are an absolute travesty, most seem to want Cooper out already, what exactly do they expect with that shite squad they have?

He's far too good of them. Once the inevitable happens we won't hold it against you Steve.
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They wanted him out before a game was played, before he was appointed, even.

They're consistent, I suppose, but he's got a hell of a job on his hands getting that fanbase onside. Even without the Forest connection they'd dislike him - their PL and FA Cup wins have given them a huge sense of entitlement. They didn't like Maresca a whole lot even when they were 15 points clear at the top of the Championship.

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oobidoobi

oobidoobi

First Team Squad
Cooper's never going to set a fanbase alight at the prospect of his arrival, so he will always have an uphill battle getting fans onside. He wasn't much anticipated with us as i remember, except anything was better than what we had at the time. He almost immediately caught lightning in a bottle and became an historic manager. Will he be able to do that twice ? as that's what would be required for them down the way to give him a break.
 
Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
I think they have some legitimate gripes but for some reason they have a general agreement that their squad shouldn’t be fighting relegation which is embarrassing.

They don’t have a single player that would get in our first XI and most tip us to be amongst it.

I don’t think Cooper himself is helping as he has been so moany since he’s been there & is doing all the things he didn’t do well here.
 
Barry

Barry

Where's me hammer?
Rzar said:
I think they have some legitimate gripes but for some reason they have a general agreement that their squad shouldn’t be fighting relegation which is embarrassing.

They don’t have a single player that would get in our first XI and most tip us to be amongst it.

I don’t think Cooper himself is helping as he has been so moany since he’s been there & is doing all the things he didn’t do well here.
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f*** him.
 
Quntib Hollox

Quntib Hollox

Jack Burkitt
Red Dawn said:
The Fester boards are an absolute travesty, most seem to want Cooper out already, what exactly do they expect with that shite squad they have?

He's far too good of them. Once the inevitable happens we won't hold it against you Steve.
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Most of them genuinely believe they have a top 10 PL squad and are being held back by a championship manager 🙄
 
DizzyBala

DizzyBala

Jack Armstrong
Barry said:
f*** him.
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Steady on, Barry. Things may have ended with a whimper but until such time that Steve says or does anything out of hand against our club, I think he deserves our respect. I wish him a long and happy managerial career, but obviously since he's taken the Leicester, unfortunately I want him to lose every week for as long as possible.
 
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