Trents
John Robertson
How could we? We couldn't delay account submissions on relegation like they did?
The demise of Leicester City
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Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
It sounds like the demise of FFP to me.
When the Appeal panel say the rules are not fit for purpose, you know the end is nigh.
When the Appeal panel say the rules are not fit for purpose, you know the end is nigh.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
I have no idea why people think Leicester will get stuffed by the referees now. I don't think what happened to us with the refs last season had any connection at all with the FFP/PSR charges. We just managed to piss off both the PGMOL and the PL at the same time. Jury's out as to whether the PGMOL are over it yet.
gurru991
Leicester Supporter
You are absolutely correct !! The EPL protect the fashionable clubs because that's who the foreign fans are paying to watch. Leicester avoiding punishment on a technicality is an embarrassment as it shows off the Leagues incompetence but the loop hole will get closed & the money will keep rolling in.
Lots of people will expect the league to make life difficult for Leicester but they can't be too obvious about it as the media will have a field day with it.
Quntib Hollox
Jack Burkitt
You’d be surprised how much the likes of Neville and Carragher can sweep stuff under the carpet.
gurru991
Leicester Supporter
I'm not sure how much weight the comments of those two clowns carry any more.
youreds1986
Grenville Morris
Can we leave all the bullshit PL conspiracy theories regarding refereeing decisions being linked to our PSR issues in last season please?
Morpeth
John Robertson
Agreed. It was pure incompetence and no more.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
I don't think it was pure incompetence. I think there was a grudge there. But it was absolutely nothing to do with our dispute with the Premier League over FFP/PSR.
andover red
Geoff Thomas
Not sure why everyone has assumed there will be no PSR deduction for Leicester this season. If I've understood correctly, what they've avoided is punishment for the 3-year period to end of June 23 (same period we were punished for). However, all clubs will shortly have to submit figures for the period to end of June 24. Those must be submitted by end of December and I expect the bin dippers to far exceed the allowable limit and be deducted points just like we were last year.
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Alvar Hanso
Jack Burkitt
According to the Guardian, Leicester are confident of staying within PSR for 2024 due to the sale of Dewsbury-Hall and the compo they got for Poundland Pep
The clairvoyant of the day award for Mr Yates, please:
Sources: PL clears hotel sale in Chelsea PSR boost
The Premier League have cleared Chelsea's £76.5 million ($100.6m) sale of two hotels to a sister company in a deal which aids their compliance with the division's profit and sustainability rules (PSR), sources have told ESPN.
Chelsea hotel deal "ok"
DanR
Steve Chettle
If any hotels deserve a visit which ends in leaving a massive panblocker, those are two.The clairvoyant of the day award for Mr Yates, please:
Sources: PL clears hotel sale in Chelsea PSR boost
The Premier League have cleared Chelsea's £76.5 million ($100.6m) sale of two hotels to a sister company in a deal which aids their compliance with the division's profit and sustainability rules (PSR), sources have told ESPN.www.espn.com
Chelsea hotel deal "ok"
andover red
Geoff Thomas
Wow okay. They were reportedly so far over that I thought they would still bust the limit. Hopefully they've pissed of the EPL enough that they'll invalidate aspects like they did with us over COVID and promotion bonuses.
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adam09
Super Koopa
How many did they get the season they went up before they won the league, before refs cottoned onto Vardy's dangly leg trick?
Haych
John Robertson
They will still go down as they’re shite. I just hope Cooper lasts long enough for us to play them in October.
Bobby The Brain
Weasel
Did my phone just ring?
I agree our PSR issues weren't linked to the gripes with the PGMOL but for me the sheer volume of just flat-out wrong decisions against us really made me (and still makes me) question whether it was just incompetence or something else.
I'm not even talking about the Liverpool or Bournemouth games as that probably was more due to really bad human error. I'm talking about that Everton game obviously, the Brighton and Spurs away games which both should seen us playing against 10 men and the Awoniyi and Neco non-penalties against Newcastle and West Ham respectively.
All of those incidents were Supposedly analysed, clinically in the cold depths of Stockley Park by a team of apparent experts and on every single occasion there was seen to be no error made on the field by the ref.
One or two I can understand, everyone gets that. But repeatedly every week for about 2 months? There's more to that than just incompetence in my opinion and I like to think of myself as someone who actually sympathises with refs regularly and I'm reluctant to just slag them off as my default setting like many fans.
Add to that how it all stopped too once Clattenburg left and it paints a clear picture in my eyes.
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Back to Leicester...Sounds like the EFL are taking a look and seeing what the position is...
DizzyBala
Jack Armstrong
The top six bias is definitely a real thing when it comes to refereeing decisions but my question is, who would seriously risk the integrity of a billion dollar business, to manipulate the league like that. If it ever came out and these things ALWAYS do, it'd bring the league into disrepute and change English football forever. The amount of lawsuits for example that it would bring alone would sink the Premierleague.
Fundamentally, the governing bodies and PGMOL are just trying to do their best to make it work and often, they get it completely wrong. We see decisions with bias, because we're fans. Referees are trying to use the rules of the game to interpret situations so their end goal is different.
It's like that referee on Saturday, bloke just liked the sound of his own whistle. I don't think he was corrupt, he's just not that great at refereeing but then what do you want from a ref? Someone that blows for everything, someone that has a high threshold for calling fouls?
I don't see anyone looks at some of these performances and thinks the incompetence is part of some nefarious plan to keep the Citys and Arsenals and Liverpools and such on top. City have Haaland, Liverpool have Salah. They're basically cheat codes.
PSR is all round joke. The handling of ours and Everton's situations last year. How Leicester have wormed out of it. The let offs for United. Newcastle spending £20m on Vlach. Chelsea flogging their own companies hotels to comply.
The irony is, it feels less like it's about teams like us and Leicester but more to stop teams like Newcastle buying the league like City did. PSR is shit but I gotta say, if you look at Newcastle in isolation, it's stopped them getting ahead of themselves.
I think English Football is about due a reset if I'm honest, it'll never happen but let the Super League clubs do their thing and work out a system to keep the financials reasonable for the rest of us.
Fundamentally, the governing bodies and PGMOL are just trying to do their best to make it work and often, they get it completely wrong. We see decisions with bias, because we're fans. Referees are trying to use the rules of the game to interpret situations so their end goal is different.
It's like that referee on Saturday, bloke just liked the sound of his own whistle. I don't think he was corrupt, he's just not that great at refereeing but then what do you want from a ref? Someone that blows for everything, someone that has a high threshold for calling fouls?
I don't see anyone looks at some of these performances and thinks the incompetence is part of some nefarious plan to keep the Citys and Arsenals and Liverpools and such on top. City have Haaland, Liverpool have Salah. They're basically cheat codes.
PSR is all round joke. The handling of ours and Everton's situations last year. How Leicester have wormed out of it. The let offs for United. Newcastle spending £20m on Vlach. Chelsea flogging their own companies hotels to comply.
The irony is, it feels less like it's about teams like us and Leicester but more to stop teams like Newcastle buying the league like City did. PSR is shit but I gotta say, if you look at Newcastle in isolation, it's stopped them getting ahead of themselves.
I think English Football is about due a reset if I'm honest, it'll never happen but let the Super League clubs do their thing and work out a system to keep the financials reasonable for the rest of us.
None of the refereeing issues is helped by the PGMOL - the people who hold the power to influence the outcome of a game more than anyone else in the stadium - being owned and funded by..........the Premier League...
Professional Game Match Officials Limited - Wikipedia
What makes it a billion dollar business though? It's the overseas interest, I just happened to be in Singapore airport once when United played Liverpool and it was like I was in a pub in Salford and this was over 10 years ago.
That overseas interest creates billions in revenue and they ain't paying the big bucks to watch Forest vs Bournemouth. It's in the business interests of the Premier League to keep Liverpool, United etc at the top of the tree. It must be killing Richard Masters inside every season United f*** up.
gurru991
Leicester Supporter
I actually think Cooper will keeps up & I fully expect him to be in charge in October.
I don't know if this has been asked already so apologies if it has but here's a question - Are the parachute payments from the EPL rules or EFL rules? or at least written into the EPL rules?
Because Leicester claim they were not subject to EPL rules whilst in the Championship. Shouldn't they therefore be giving back the parachute payments they got from the EPL due to rules they weren't subjected to?
Because Leicester claim they were not subject to EPL rules whilst in the Championship. Shouldn't they therefore be giving back the parachute payments they got from the EPL due to rules they weren't subjected to?
DanR
Steve Chettle
Their parachute payments should have been 4p in the £.