Tendayi Darikwa

[Liaminho]

Okay.

Nice to see you've changed your tune though...

It's almost like I was joking and being overly positive to cope with the loss of the best right back we've had in 20 years.

Nah can't be LTLF is serious business.

 

[It's Baggio]

It's almost like I was joking and being overly positive to cope with the loss of the best right back we've had in 20 years.

Nah can't be LTLF is serious business.

Well fair enough.

It's getting harder to work out what is a joke on here and what is a genuinely terrible opinion.

 

[Liaminho]

Well fair enough.

It's getting harder to work out what is a joke on here and what is a genuinely terrible opinion.

With me it's usually just terrible opinions so don't worry.

I'm rarely ever funny.

 

[psychohasyournumber]

Cash started well at RB and was as consistently good as any player we've had for years.

Cash had a nightmare v WBA, it was just that his performance was overshadowed by Muric's.

 

[gamble]

My opinion on TD is that's he is average at best, under MW he got pelters to the point where his confidence was shot and everytime the ball came near him he panicked and made a mistake (I felt genuinely sorry for him), the first thing AK did when he arrived was loan Byram to replace TD then Sanko to replace Byram.

In all honesty I do think we need another right back, or I hope that the academy has another gem up its sleeve. The way we play relies on good wing backs who link up well with the wingers.

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[king_congo_red]

Not sure what that has to do with my post?

“It wouldn't have taken long for anyone to realise he was a much better player“

That it took longer than the one game...

 

[incapable hulk]

I think your memory is playing tricks.

Cash was being used as a RB last pre-season, before Darikwa got injured.

The initial reason Cash was being used as an RB last pre-season was because Darikwa wasn’t there. He was on international duty at the Africa Cup of Nations until the end of June and only returned a few weeks into July after several pre-season friendlies has been played. He was then rested due to his compressed pre-season, before being injured in training after only being back for a handful of weeks.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

I certainly remember the Forum comments, following the opening game against West Brom which featured some great analysis of Cash being ‘never a right-back in a million years’, failing to stop crosses, falling over too easily to play-right back...etc and calls to rush out and sign a ‘proper’ right-back at all costs.

Agreed but I aslo remember the forum saying that Muric is a class signing and being generally positive about signings like Mir, Semedo, Bostock etc... Swings in roundabouts people get some wrong some right that’s what happens when you post on a forum.

If Sabri can get more out of Darikwa fair enough but it’s a gamble in my opinion.

 

[king_congo_red]

Agreed but I aslo remember the forum saying that Muric is a class signing and being generally positive about signings like Mir, Semedo, Bostock etc... Swings in roundabouts people get some wrong some right that’s what happens when you post on a forum.

If Sabri can get more out of Darikwa fair enough but it’s a gamble in my opinion.

Well, new signings are always a gamble. The Cash thing stuck with me because so many posters went for the lazy, but justified, given our time honoured tradition of having to ask players to play on roles they weren’t suited to
, ‘square pegs in round holes’ reaction. The number of posters who thought he’d actually make even a passable right back was tiny.

 

[incapable hulk]

I certainly remember the Forum comments, following the opening game against West Brom which featured some great analysis of Cash being ‘never a right-back in a million years’, failing to stop crosses, falling over too easily to play-right back...etc and calls to rush out and sign a ‘proper’ right-back at all costs.

I’ll hold my hands up in that I thought he started off poorly. In the opening games teams repeatedly pushed down his flank. He got better and better and became the player of the season.

The club clearly weren’t fully convinced either, as a month into the season they splashed out 2 million on Jenkinson. Not the kind of money you spend on a player you intend to be a reserve.

Obviously Cash then went on to make the position his own beyond any doubt. We’ll miss him.

 

[Captain Sinister]

I’ll hold my hands up in that I thought he started off poorly. In the opening games teams repeatedly pushed down his flank. He got better and better and became the player of the season.

The club clearly weren’t fully convinced either, as a month into the season they splashed out 2 million on Jenkinson. Not the kind of money you spend on a player you intend to be a reserve.

Obviously Cash then went on to make the position his own beyond any doubt. We’ll miss him.

Didn't the Club have to splash out on Right Back cover as Darikwa was out with a long-term injury?
And I think Cash quickly developed into a very good right back, but in doing that we lost something from our mid-field.

 

[DizzyBala]

I don't know where Darikwa is at as a player now after his injury but I think he'll do perfectly fine there.
The team seems to be a little more mobile this year so there shouldn't be as much over-reliance on the full backs getting forward as last season which might benefit him.

That being said, everyone knows Cash was leaving at some point so you would imagine if the club didn't have faith in Darikwa and Jenkinson that we would or will recruit someone for that spot.

I do hope though our fans don't pile the pressure on Tendayi and expect him to offer the same as Cash did.

 

[Captain Sinister]

I don't know where Darikwa is at as a player now after his injury but I think he'll do perfectly fine there.
The team seems to be a little more mobile this year so there shouldn't be as much over-reliance on the full backs getting forward as last season which might benefit him.

That being said, everyone knows Cash was leaving at some point so you would imagine if the club didn't have faith in Darikwa and Jenkinson that we would or will recruit someone for that spot.

I do hope though our fans don't pile the pressure on Tendayi and expect him to offer the same as Cash did.

Why shouldn't he offer what Cash did?
Tendayi looks a proper athlete who is a more natural right back now than Cash was when Cash was moved back to play there.
He also started out as a right winger, so he should be able to deliver the crosses from his forays into attack.
And at 6 feet 2 inches he should offer the height to deal with crosses into the box aimed at his far post.
He has scored a few goals in his time, including 1 for us against Chelsea.
If he is now the first choice right back I for one expect him to deliver what Cash did.

 

[gamble]

Why shouldn't he offer what Cash did?
Tendayi looks a proper athlete who is a more natural right back now than Cash was when Cash was moved back to play there.
He also started out as a right winger, so he should be able to deliver the crosses from his forays into attack.
And at 6 feet 2 inches he should offer the height to deal with crosses into the box aimed at his far post.
He has scored a few goals in his time, including 1 for us against Chelsea.
If he is now the first choice right back I for one expect him to deliver what Cash did.

Tbf he never did before, he never went past his man and his passing was woeful at times (his confidence being destroyed didn't help).


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[incapable hulk]

Didn't the Club have to splash out on Right Back cover as Darikwa was out with a long-term injury?
And I think Cash quickly developed into a very good right back, but in doing that we lost something from our mid-field.

A second division side with FFP in mind made their most expensive summer signing a 2 million quid right back for “cover”.

No, they could have spent much less or even loaned someone if all they were after was cover. And sabri started him in games (including that win vs Fulham, I think) before he quickly got injured.

 

[Captain Sinister]

A second division side with FFP in mind made their most expensive summer signing a 2 million quid right back for “cover”.

No, they could have spent much less or even loaned someone if all they were after was cover. And sabri started him in games (including that win vs Fulham, I think) before he quickly got injured.

He showed nothing worth £2m before getting injured, and nothing since his return.
If Jenkinson was recruited to be first choice then the scouts appear to have been misled as to his quality, and the Club was robbed.

 

[Wes' Organ]

When Matt Lowton got injured at Burnley, Tendayi stepped up and Lowton couldn't win the shirt back until Tendayi was injured iirc.
There's a decent player in there.

 

[It's Baggio]

The initial reason Cash was being used as an RB last pre-season was because Darikwa wasn’t there. He was on international duty at the Africa Cup of Nations until the end of June and only returned a few weeks into July after several pre-season friendlies has been played. He was then rested due to his compressed pre-season, before being injured in training after only being back for a handful of weeks.

I know he was at the AFCON.

As far as I can see, he missed 2 friendlies (not several) as he started the 3rd v Atromitos (so wasn't rested for long). Cash then played the next 3 with Darikwa on the bench. Darikwa then got injured sometime between the final friendly and the first league game.

However my post was in response to the assertion that the only reason Cash was played RB was because we were forced into it as TD got injured. I dont think this was the case.

 

[Lee]

Agreed but I aslo remember the forum saying that Muric is a class signing and being generally positive about signings like Mir, Semedo, Bostock etc... Swings in roundabouts people get some wrong some right that’s what happens when you post on a forum.

If Sabri can get more out of Darikwa fair enough but it’s a gamble in my opinion.

Everything is a gamble these days

 

[Master Yates]

When Matt Lowton got injured at Burnley, Tendayi stepped up and Lowton couldn't win the shirt back until Tendayi was injured iirc.
There's a decent player in there.

Wrong way round I’m afraid. Darikwa started the season, Lowton made only his second start in December that season.

Darikwa didn’t start a league game after new year as Burnley’s form picked up and they surged to the title. They lost Lowton’s 2nd and 4th game (December) then didn’t lose again in his next 23 games.


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[Wes' Organ]

Wrong way round I’m afraid. Darikwa started the season, Lowton made only his second start in December that season.

Darikwa didn’t start a league game after new year as Burnley’s form picked up and they surged to the title. They lost Lowton’s 2nd and 4th game (December) then didn’t lose again in his next 23 games.


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I might have got the wrong player but I'm sure that he kept a very decent right back out of the side. Do you know who the right back was before Lowton? Maybe Lowton was injured in pre season or something, I don't f***ing know!
I remember my gaffer who is a Burnley fan telling me that he'd kept someone very decent out if the side.
I'm standing by him now anyroads!

 

[Harvey]

However my post was in response to the assertion that the only reason Cash was played RB was because we were forced into it as TD got injured. I dont think this was the case.

Ok let's put it to the test.

 

[Harvey]

If you think Matty Cash was played at right back last season because Darikwa was injured, like this post

 

[Harvey]

If you think Matty Cash would have played right back last season ahead of Darikwa, injury or otherwise, like this post

 

[witneyred]

I just hope he is ready and fit and rarering to go and get his position back, it looks like we are setting up more positively and will need him in a more traditional role as RB. I know he isn't the greatest and neither is Jenkison but under a new tactical formation he will do what is needed.
He was showing us he can cross a ball, but the way we are buying suggests if he does play he will be less attacking and more defensive, I would rather have that than RB making up for deficiencies in midfield.