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DocForest

First Team Squad
The fact he left his last club on a free makes me nervous that he’s not one to hang around at clubs. Not sure what the background was to that - was it his choice or did they not offer him a new contract?
A bit harsh. He was 5 seasons at Torino for which they loaned him out for 2 of those seasons (Fulham) including the final year of his contract. Fulham had an option to make the deal permanent, they didn't want him. Left him without a club as his Torino contract was up.
 
The fact he left his last club on a free makes me nervous that he’s not one to hang around at clubs. Not sure what the background was to that - was it his choice or did they not offer him a new contract?
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vertigored

Viv Anderson
I know I shouldn’t have clicked it, I clicked it anyway.

Nottingham Forest transfer news latest as Aina 'difficulty' outlined and defender 'poised' to leave​


Please no one make the same mistake as me, there is nothing in this link of any substance. There isn’t even a mention of him being “poised to leave”

Don’t click the link!

I’ll even make it not click so you can’t!

(Dammit, I’m sorry it made itself clicky!..)

 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
The fact he left his last club on a free makes me nervous that he’s not one to hang around at clubs. Not sure what the background was to that - was it his choice or did they not offer him a new contract?
He had injury problems at Torino & started about 10 games in his final season there. They released him, as mad as it may seem considering his performances here.

I think we have to give ourselves a bit of credit, we seem to have created a very good environment where players that do little elsewhere seem to be thriving here. Our environment has clearly got something extra out of a lot of players that have been okay/good elsewhere. The best examples are Aina & Milenkovic who have seemingly gone up another level from their previous clubs.
 

Steve Stone’s Brylcreem

First Team Squad
He had injury problems at Torino & started about 10 games in his final season there. They released him, as mad as it may seem considering his performances here.

I think we have to give ourselves a bit of credit, we seem to have created a very good environment where players that do little elsewhere seem to be thriving here. Our environment has clearly got something extra out of a lot of players that have been okay/good elsewhere. The best examples are Aina & Milenkovic who have seemingly gone up another level from their previous clubs.
Excellent point re our environment. Aina isn’t a new talent but he’s found form with us. Elanga and CHO slightly different but similar tale. Could say the same for Spence and Wood (I know he’s been successful before but he was having a lean spell at Newcastle before he came).
It’s not worked for others, but there’s a significant few who it has worked for.
 

DizzyBala

Jack Armstrong
The best we can do is offer them competitive contracts within our wage structure but also, maintain an environment where the club feels progressive to their ambitions. Aina is 28, it's likely this next contract is going to be the contract for the prime of his career.

He can choose to spend it at a club that seemingly is on the up and where he can be a focal point/starter every game or if he feels he can take that step further, go to a City for more money but risk getting farmed out down past where we currently are looking to finish for the best years of his career.

I do feel like Woody is going to move on in the Summer, but I think there is a good chance Ola re-signs with us.
 
Excellent point re our environment. Aina isn’t a new talent but he’s found form with us. Elanga and CHO slightly different but similar tale. Could say the same for Spence and Wood (I know he’s been successful before but he was having a lean spell at Newcastle before he came).
It’s not worked for others, but there’s a significant few who it has worked for.
Wood was barely played at Newcastle. Probably the main reason he’s still going now.
 

Souvik

First Team Squad
I dont know if folks have seen this; but in Friday's press conference Nuno is asked whether he is hopeful the club will be able to agree new contracts for Wood and Aina, and he replies “I think so. I think things are going well and the players are working very good.

See the below from 2:40


Surely he wouldn't say this unless he had some positive indication

Now to think whether I should copy and paste all of this in the Wood thread, in case there is a hardcore kiwi Forest fan, who only checks that thread and not other threads including this one.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
The best we can do is offer them competitive contracts within our wage structure but also, maintain an environment where the club feels progressive to their ambitions.

I've been wondering whether really hefty bonuses might be the way forward here.

Aina is on a reported £50k per week and if he joins someone like Man City then they would probably double that. They could afford more but he's a full back at an unfashionable club and there won't be any interest from Europe so he's limited in what we can get. So, that's potential £2.5m per year uplift by joining Man City, on a likely 3 year contract.

Maybe Forest could offer him retained £50k a week base but with a £5m bonus for every season we qualify for Champions League? If it triggers he would get more than what Man City are offering, and CL football, and without having to uproot to a different club where he might not start every game.

Forest meanwhile don't have to sign anyone new which might cost more than 3x years of £5m bonus, and Forest in that situation also benefit from a huge uplift in league position payout (£30m+ more than previous seasons), CL football revenue (£??) and a huge uplift in sponsorship, gate receipts etc.

Also wondered if we might consider a similar speculative thing for Olmo. We'll never compete vs other clubs on base salary but perhaps we could offer something a little different and give him £20m if we qualify for CL alongside a low release clause (£40m?) that triggers in summer 2026. Chance for him to earn a stonking big payout and if it goes to pot he only really needs to be here 18 months before he could force a move.
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
For a bonus to effective the “success” criteria should be within the control of the employee.
The success criteria suggested (qualification for Champions’s League) is way beyond an individual’s ability to impact.
Club lose Nuno, take profit by selling best players, or buying players who are duds will determine qualification far more significantly.
Plus, if he gets the bonus, it reflects a team effort.
It would only have a chance of succeeding if all the team received the bonus.
If Man City offer a 3-year deal on £100 k per week, then that is a certain level of income - no risk to the player.
The bonus proposal introduces uncertainty.
As a player, I’d rather have the bird in the hand.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
For a bonus to effective the “success” criteria should be within the control of the employee.

As a player, I’d rather have the bird in the hand.

Agree about control but it's never like that is it? Bonus structures are linked to the revenue/profitability potential of the organisation to control risk. Very few people football or outside of football will be on bonus schemes which are purely determined by their impact.

As for last point, me too probably, but I'm not on £50k a week and I've got a mortgage and kids to pay for. Footballers might see it differently, and top level footballers will think they can achieve it (they don't get to be a PL player without a hefty dose of self confidence).
 
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