Stefan Ortega

[JohnnyCarey]

He was frankly brilliant last night, kept his goal well, distributed the ball excellently and marshalled his back four.

I mean, I love Matz, but Stefan won't make me worry about the Forest goalkeeper.

I love Sels -- he's been a mainstay of all our progress. Without his calming influence we'd be back in the Championship.
But last night I started to wonder whether Ortega isn't an even better keeper. He was superb , not just in his shot-stopping bit in his masterly control of his area. He seems always to be alert to the next thing that's going to happen -- and that gives all the defenders a real injection of confidence.
It's a great choice to have but I think Ortega deserves a chance to be our No .1

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

Ortega's much better as far as distribution is concerned, but can be pull off that worldie which Sels has made countless times.

Until we see those a few times, jury is still out.

 

[Ian Storey Moore]

Distribution, bang on and ……..quality

 

[Ian Storey Moore]

Get Im in

 

[valspoodle]

I have no idea who is the better one of the two and so who deserves the place as No. 1, but I do know that we are lucky to have two top keepers to help the cause. Always seems odd to rotate the keepers for Euro games when they are probably the guys who need the rest the least (note to keepers; I know you work hard, too), but I suppose the back-up keeper is the one who sees least football during the season, so it's fair to give him the games out of the Premier League.

One thing I do know, please don't switch the keepers as the indecisive England managers did, back in the day.

 

[Hector Salamanca]

Sels has been carrying a slight niggle to his groin for months…

It's called married man syndrome.

 

[Bsabser]

I hope we keep him depending he wants to stay

 

[tricky_tree1982]

He was awful against Villa, I suppose pretty much the whole team were to be fair

 

[Baronvon]

He was awful against Villa, I suppose pretty much the whole team were to be fair

Don't think he could have done anything about a single one of the goals to be fair to him. He kept the score down if anything.

 

[justnotjase]

I'd absolutely be offering him a deal, and if we don't someone else will.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

Keep him and divvy-up duties. Ortega against high press teams, Sels for all others.

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

If a straight choice, I'd keep Sels.
If there is a deal to be done here, which I doubt now that there is no Europe, we look for a no 2.

 

[tricky_tree1982]

Don't think he could have done anything about a single one of the goals to be fair to him. He kept the score down if anything.

Sorry, I meant for a change his distribution was really poor.

 

[valspoodle]

He'd be a jolly good number 2 and so I'd have a chat and see the lie of the land. Depends what he wants. Bit like the chat on the Yates thread, there are various possibilities.

 

[Ewan Husami]

I've said this elsewhere. I just feel more confident with Ortega between the sticks, Sels is a great keeper but too indecisive in the area.
I'd offer Ortega the 1 shirt to keep him and let Sels try to take it off him

 

[JohnnyCarey]

Sels has been great for us and he's a brilliant shot-stopper. But Ortega feels like more of an all-round modern keeper -- much better movement off his line and better with the ball at his feet. Would be great if we could keep both but it may be hard now we don't have European football to offer Ortega.

 

[uptight9]

Regardless of who each one of us prefers style-wise, the fact is, without Euro football, we cannot keep both next season, and the 2 no1s IMO can never work for a club like us. We're not City and, as my all-knowing husband very succinctly put it, Ortega is a luxury GK for us. Especially when there are other positions in the squad which have not even had adequate quantity, let alone quality, of cover over this season. Goalies can't be rotated all the time. We'll end up having a disgruntled player on the bench and a waste of wages. So, the club has to decide its priorities there and go forward with what needs to be done, but both can't stay.

I like Ortega a lot, he has some qualities like anticipation and positioning that I appreciate a lot in GKs. And he's been mostly very good in the games he's played for us. But if him staying means that Sels goes, I know who I'd rather have at Forest next year.

 

[Nedski67]

John Victor????

 

[Apollo11]

I still think it makes sense to keep Ortega on a free and sell Selz which would help, even slightly, with PSR.

Ortega is no downgrade and judging by Neco Williams post a few weeks back the players would love it if he stayed as well.

 

[JonnoSnr]

Ortega over Sels for me.

We really need to sort out this back up keeper issue we've had. The last 6 months has been the only time since promotion that we've had two genuinely good keepers. Other clubs seem to manage it, even Wolves had Sa and Johnstone.

 

[Est.1865]

Ortega over Sels for me.

We really need to sort out this back up keeper issue we've had. The last 6 months has been the only time since promotion that we've had two genuinely good keepers. Other clubs seem to manage it, even Wolves had Sa and Johnstone.

Sa could more than likely be a viable back up option this summer

 

[derbyshirered]

worth another contract

 

[SparrowsAnus]

I think he's too good to be a number 2 for anyone outside of the top 6, and you would assume he wants regular game time. Unless we're offering the number 1 spot to him I think he'll be off. Quite understandable.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

The 6 month contract was weird, to put it mildly.

I suspect Ortega only wanted to play for us as a stop gap and will therefore leave the club this summer.

 

[Chairman Mo]

The 6 month contract was weird, to put it mildly.

I suspect Ortega only wanted to play for us as a stop gap and will therefore leave the club this summer.

Sadly, I think you're right. He'd walk into top-6 teams in most European leagues