uredsuns
Rice 13
Why can we not have goal line technology across all touch lines so there is never a contentious decision if the ball was in or out?
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Rzar
Bob McKinlay
I can’t wait till linesmen are pointles
Throws & offsides should gradually be delegated to technology
JonnoSnr
Geoff Thomas
Isn't the technology coming from sensors within the goal frame?
I suppose they could potentially have a system like hawk eye in tennis but I just think the game would become a farce. Every contentious 'was it in/out' will be looked at, or demanded to be looked at.
At the end of the day if we defend the corner properly nobody is even talking about it and as I've said in another thread we had at least 1, possibly 2 corners in the second half that were wrongly given in our favour but didn't score directly from them.
WatnallRed
Geoff Thomas
A lot of people moaning about the lino here but I’m 99% the reff gave this and the lino only flagged after the reff blew.
They need to go back to basics of only giving what you are 100% sure of. That dive with zero contact that Taylor gave v Southampton was another utterly bizarre guess of a decision.
They need to go back to basics of only giving what you are 100% sure of. That dive with zero contact that Taylor gave v Southampton was another utterly bizarre guess of a decision.
PK12
Youth Team
Having just seen MotD I'm more angry about the penalty we didn't get for handball. I assumed that there would at least be some effort at justifying why it wasn't given but the best they could do on MotD was say the ref had a good position and we have to go with the ref. I wanted at least some sort of excuse referring to the laws of the game.
uredsuns
Rice 13
People would be talking about it because it was such a bad decision that was only given on guess work, but I suppose if you are happy for match officials to just guess everytime then no you wouldn't be talking about it.
JonnoSnr
Geoff Thomas
So if the corner just passed without incident and the game carried on would we be discussing it today? Of course we wouldn't.
We had a corner in the second half that hit Ndoye last. He was actually stood offside too just to add to the poor decision-making. Now he was stood next to a defender so it wasn't really clear if the ball had hit him or the United player and I would imagine the ref probably guessed again to be honest. Nothing is being made about that on here though weirdly...
How about VAR doesn't check EVERYTHING - it just checks the things that the coach/manager uses his eg 3 challenges per game for
VAR checks things in the other half of the pitch before awarding/striking off a goal. The fact that it can't check that a corner from which a goal is scored was actually a corner or not highlights the utterly stupid implement of VAR
It was sold to supporters as "it won't get in the way - it's there to catch the howlers"
Well... it gets in the way and it doesn't seem to catch the howlers so what's the point
VAR checks things in the other half of the pitch before awarding/striking off a goal. The fact that it can't check that a corner from which a goal is scored was actually a corner or not highlights the utterly stupid implement of VAR
It was sold to supporters as "it won't get in the way - it's there to catch the howlers"
Well... it gets in the way and it doesn't seem to catch the howlers so what's the point
What fans class as a howler and what PGMOL and their laws of the game class as a howler are two different things unfortunately.
Rosie’s A Red
Viv Anderson
Isn’t it happening in tennis?
A team’s season can change on whether a goal is inaccurately awarded or not - relegation, European qualification, progress in a cup competition etc. - and millions of pounds can be lost. The Premier League and the PGMOL have (to borrow a phrase) a duty of care to ensure that incorrect decisions are kept to a minimum.
Whatever it takes to ensure that playing in the Premier League isn’t a lottery as to whether the result is a fair and valid one.
Whether that’s goal-line technology pointed along the bylines, or two linesmen per half, whatever, just so people aren’t guessing or having to have x-ray vision to look over the other side of a pitch through the goal or a crowd of bodies.
The difference in the VAR system between the Porto game and some Premier League games is like night and day. Why? Could it be that the VARs are of different capabilities? They know the laws of the game? They aren’t in receipt of brown envelopes? (f**k Anderlecht…)
valspoodle
Ian Bowyer
I think the handball rule these days says that if the ball comes off one part of a players body onto the arm or hand, it's not handball. It has to come direct from another player for it to count as a foul.
Of course, that doesn't take into account that the player may realise that when it leaves him it might go to an opposition player, so he moves his arm to stop that happening. But we accept these days all these rules are crazy, so what's another dotty idea?
Of course, that doesn't take into account that the player may realise that when it leaves him it might go to an opposition player, so he moves his arm to stop that happening. But we accept these days all these rules are crazy, so what's another dotty idea?
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Yes
Quite a lot of top level tournaments don't really have any human officials now.
The umpire often just gives out the score, the system can tell if it is in or out or it's hit the net.
Bing Crosby's Head
Viv Anderson
The goal line technology is Hawk Eye. It comes from cameras in the stands rather than sensors in the goal so no reason why it couldn't be extended across the pitch and give an instant decision to the ref.
PynchonForest
Stuart Pearce
PynchonForest
Stuart Pearce
PK12
Youth Team
I thought you agreed yesterday that you couldn't understand why the penalty for handball wasn't given, old chap? Or have you revised your opinion on it (which we're all entitled to do, of course)?
PynchonForest
Stuart Pearce
Just ****in' with the natives yo.
Eddie Yates
Ian Bowyer
It clearly wasn't out
Why is the scoreline relevant?
Should all controversial decisions not be discussed because the team on the wrong end of it aren't 3-0 up
PynchonForest
Stuart Pearce
Perhaps.
Because had we been 3-0 up it would be an irritation , not a potential result changing moment. I agree it needs discussion but at times there can be an "unlucky" mentality, rather than being good enough to not rely on marginals.
Eddie Yates
Ian Bowyer
Perhaps what?
Eddie Yates
Ian Bowyer
But we weren't 3-0 up, it was 0-0 in a close game and Man U were awarded a corner that clearly wasn't & they scored from it
Its a bit important really isn’t it
Chappers85
Can't Play Left-Back
Giving the corner was clearly the wrong decision and it was an absolute guess by the linesman. But those sorts of decisions probably happen half a dozen times in a match, marginal wrong calls - and yes there is a bias that the bigger team tends to get those decisions more often than not. It gave Utd the chance to put a ball in our box, but we have to do a better job of defending the corner. While I do think it's worth implementing the goal line tech all over the pitch, I don’t think this is something that deserves this level of whingeing to be honest.
The penalty shout however - HOW THE ACTUAL FUK did VAR not pick that up? It's f**king blatant. That is 100% a penalty in any era of football. That is a game changing decision which the officials have to get right, and the safety net of VAR is there to bail them out, and yet they completely ignored it. That's the decision worth losing our shit over. VAR definitely interferes if that's the other way round.
The penalty shout however - HOW THE ACTUAL FUK did VAR not pick that up? It's f**king blatant. That is 100% a penalty in any era of football. That is a game changing decision which the officials have to get right, and the safety net of VAR is there to bail them out, and yet they completely ignored it. That's the decision worth losing our shit over. VAR definitely interferes if that's the other way round.
PynchonForest
Stuart Pearce
What? Perhaps.