SIGN ON SIGN ON........

[The Vicar]

I would like to applaud Wednesday who today allowed the unemployed a £10 entry for the game. Perhaps we could do something simslar to fill the 5,000 or so empty seats at most of our games.
But perhaps those unfortunate enough to be in that situation would feel further humiliated when the sign on chant is started at the City Ground as it was so loudly at Hillsborough today.
How many of our fans see this and the even more mindless "Who are yerr" chant as an essential part of their match day experience?
Personally to see Forest do well gives me all the pleasure I need. Why does anyone need to attempt to humiliate other supporters for their own pleasure. ???
I know some will say it is just banter and part of the game but that does not make it right . I well remember the devastating effect unemployment had on my brother some years ago and chants like this are not big, not clever, not funny and not original, and does not encourage the team. SO WHY DO IT? I am proud to be a Forest Fan but why spoil great support with this thoughtless nonsense. Rant Over. Thoughts?

 

[winnits]

It was strange that Wednesday decided to offer cheap tickets for the unemployed on condition they sit in a special area right next to the away end, though.

 

[dellaroc]

I would like to applaud Wednesday who today allowed the unemployed a £10 entry for the game. Perhaps we could do something simslar to fill the 5,000 or so empty seats at most of our games.
But perhaps those unfortunate enough to be in that situation would feel further humiliated when the sign on chant is started at the City Ground as it was so loudly at Hillsborough today.
How many of our fans see this and the even more mindless "Who are yerr" chant as an essential part of their match day experience?
Personally to see Forest do well gives me all the pleasure I need. Why does anyone need to attempt to humiliate other supporters for their own pleasure. ???
I know some will say it is just banter and part of the game but that does not make it right . I well remember the devastating effect unemployment had on my brother some years ago and chants like this are not big, not clever, not funny and not original, and does not encourage the team. SO WHY DO IT? I am proud to be a Forest Fan but why spoil great support with this thoughtless nonsense. Rant Over. Thoughts?

You're actually a vicar then...?

 

[The Vicar]

You're actually a vicar then...?

Maybe?

 

[Tango Man]

It was strange that Wednesday decided to offer cheap tickets for the unemployed on condition they sit in a special area right next to the away end, though.

It's a modern form of snobbery by Wednesday. They wanted the unemployed oiks to act as a buffer zone between their fully paid up supporters & the Forest fans. The dole bludgers (thanks, Alf Stewart) were to be sacrificial lambs should our supporters have gone on the rampage. While the Forest fans were busy eating the innards of Sheffield's underclass, the other Wednesday fans would be able to make good their escape.

 

[poole_red]

It's a modern form of snobbery by Wednesday. They wanted the unemployed oiks to act as a buffer zone between their fully paid up supporters & the Forest fans. The dole bludgers (thanks, Alf Stewart) were to be sacrificial lambs should our supporters have gone on the rampage. While the Forest fans were busy eating the innards of Sheffield's underclass, the other Wednesday fans would be able to make good their escape.

Why do I have images of a forest themed version of 28 Days Later going on?!

 

[William.]

The sign on chant was started when the Wednesday supporters started (predictably) calling us scabs, its football banter, I'm sure the ppl in that corner were not to offended all 4 of them anyway.

 

[dazsin]

Haha I wondered why we were singing that!!!!!

Its only banter, it is to be expected I suppose. Good idea really, i'd rather see the seats filled than empty.

Still loads of empty seats at Hillsbrough though.

 

[Darth Pierre]

I would like to applaud Wednesday who today allowed the unemployed a £10 entry for the game. Perhaps we could do something simslar to fill the 5,000 or so empty seats at most of our games.
But perhaps those unfortunate enough to be in that situation would feel further humiliated when the sign on chant is started at the City Ground as it was so loudly at Hillsborough today.
How many of our fans see this and the even more mindless "Who are yerr" chant as an essential part of their match day experience?
Personally to see Forest do well gives me all the pleasure I need. Why does anyone need to attempt to humiliate other supporters for their own pleasure. ???
I know some will say it is just banter and part of the game but that does not make it right . I well remember the devastating effect unemployment had on my brother some years ago and chants like this are not big, not clever, not funny and not original, and does not encourage the team. SO WHY DO IT? I am proud to be a Forest Fan but why spoil great support with this thoughtless nonsense. Rant Over. Thoughts?

ha, you serious?

just to let you know i saw a kid drinking a can of sprite on TV this morning, think you should complain.

 

[The Vicar]

ha, you serious?

just to let you know i saw a kid drinking a can of sprite on TV this morning, think you should complain.

Hardly a valid comparison is it or was that your attempt at irony? :wacko:

 

[winnits]

Must admit I thought the 'Sign on...' chant was the usual tiresome response to the usual tiresome scab chanting rather than specifically aimed at the unemployed fans in the corner.

 

[The Vicar]

Must admit I thought the 'Sign on...' chant was the usual tiresome response to the usual tiresome scab chanting rather than specifically aimed at the unemployed fans in the corner.

Winnits....... : a wise old sage and always the voice of reason.

 

[saunders:]]

I'm not sure that Forest fans researched the fact that unemployed people would be sitting in that area. I think it was just the usual response.

 

[RRRREDUN]

I think the sign on and who are you chants are supposed to be banter - just not very good banter is it?

 

[dazsin]

I'm not sure that Forest fans researched the fact that unemployed people would be sitting in that area. I think it was just the usual response.

It was in the programme. It seemed too random for it not to have been for a reason such as this

 

[dbarraclough]

Yes. I doubt the word research is in the vocabulary of the people who engage in the moronic "who are ya" and suchlike chanting.

 

[saunders:]]

If you don't like it when we sing "Who are Ya" then just don't join in. No need to get on your high horse

 

[jammy]

I'd sing who are ya 10 times before i sang the "u wot" chant once :nowink:

 

[dbarraclough]

Fair nuff. The one which really makes me laugh is the Millwall chant "no one likes us. We don't care". So ironic in that they clearly do care about their special identity..Hence the chant.

 

[RICH1977]

to proove you are unemployed I presume that they had to provide a copy on the job seekers allowance book (signing on book) or simular from when i was unemployed last year I seem to remember that the money you got was peanuts (around £80 a fortnight) so it just about payed for few bits and pieces and I was living off the wifes wages, there was no way I could afford a ticket for forest during this period and tbh I was more interested in finding a job rather than spending money watching forest.

I wonder how many of those sat in that corner where genuine job seekers and how many where working on the side and bringing in extra income to be able to afford to go to the match even at £10 I bet there where a few undercover benefits officers keeping I eye on what got spent

 

[The_City_Is_Ours]

ha, you serious?

just to let you know i saw a kid drinking a can of sprite on TV this morning, think you should complain.

Would that be the kid supping away at his can just to the side of the dugout? It is a fair point that he should be reported and banned for life because who knows what damage he could've done with that can!! (I've scanned through the rest of the footage but have failed to spot a single coca-cola bottle with the cap still on)

 

[dbarraclough]

to proove you are unemployed I presume that they had to provide a copy on the job seekers allowance book (signing on book) or simular from when i was unemployed last year I seem to remember that the money you got was peanuts (around £80 a fortnight) so it just about payed for few bits and pieces and I was living off the wifes wages, there was no way I could afford a ticket for forest during this period and tbh I was more interested in finding a job rather than spending money watching forest.

I wonder how many of those sat in that corner where genuine job seekers and how many where working on the side and bringing in extra income to be able to afford to go to the match even at £10 I bet there where a few undercover benefits officers keeping I eye on what got spent

Difficult to prove someone's on the fiddle by how much they spend. Could be using an overdraft, loan,redundancy money or gift.

 

[Maverick]

Winnits....... : a wise old sage and always the voice of reason.

He's not that old, he's just got grey hair and had a tough life so far :winkie:

 

[Tutts]

to proove you are unemployed I presume that they had to provide a copy on the job seekers allowance book (signing on book) or simular from when i was unemployed last year I seem to remember that the money you got was peanuts (around £80 a fortnight) so it just about payed for few bits and pieces and I was living off the wifes wages, there was no way I could afford a ticket for forest during this period and tbh I was more interested in finding a job rather than spending money watching forest.

I wonder how many of those sat in that corner where genuine job seekers and how many where working on the side and bringing in extra income to be able to afford to go to the match even at £10 I bet there where a few undercover benefits officers keeping I eye on what got spent

Just because you're unemployed, doesn't mean you don't have savings.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Just because you're unemployed, doesn't mean you don't have savings.

If you have so a certain amount of savings though you can't claim.

to proove you are unemployed I presume that they had to provide a copy on the job seekers allowance book (signing on book) or simular from when i was unemployed last year I seem to remember that the money you got was peanuts (around £80 a fortnight) so it just about payed for few bits and pieces and I was living off the wifes wages, there was no way I could afford a ticket for forest during this period and tbh I was more interested in finding a job rather than spending money watching forest.

I wonder how many of those sat in that corner where genuine job seekers and how many where working on the side and bringing in extra income to be able to afford to go to the match even at £10 I bet there where a few undercover benefits officers keeping I eye on what got spent

I'm currently on Jobseekers and get a whole £101 a fortnight which only just cover my out goings on direct debit and bills. I'm left with about £40 spending money a month for stuff like food and travel. This month I've put £10 of it aside for the Blackburn game which I feel I'm entitled to do. I spend all my days looking for a job having applied for four this morning alone. I don't think you need to have an extra income for a £10 ticket at all so I think your insinuation that anyone paying for a ticket that's on jobseekers is over the top and a bit unecessary. Yes there are people that abuse the system but a lot of people like me are dying to get into work, declare what they do in temp jobs and are out of work at the moment through no or very little fault of their own.

Do not assume because people don't have a job they aren't entitled to have a life. I say well done to Sheffield Wednesday trying to offer something to those who may be finding life difficult at the moment.