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Sam Surridge
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MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
He's in good company there isn't he?
Best player in the world, possibly best player of all time, and a player who's goals helped Nottingham Forest to promotion for the first time in 23 years. Shame ratface neck biter isn't fit to lace either of their boots.
Good to see Sam Surridge getting some love in the US, but who’re them other two bums?
Cureboy
Geoff Thomas
Would've been a better bench option than Taiwo this season. Natural born finisher who puts himself about.
TrickyTree101
Viv Anderson
Just had a quick check and 19 goals in 45 appearancesfor Nashville SC is hardly setting the world on fire. Did like him as he always tried his best, but no way is he the level we need. However, do take you point as the way we are set up and play he might have been a better option than Taiwo. I do think Taiwo is a far better player, but just not in the system we use.
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Stuart Pearce
Yep, that one goal in 26 Premier League appearances simply cannot be denied.....
Cloughie1975
Stuart Pearce
Agreed-nowhere near Premier League standard in my view.
Sadly,I now feel the same about Awoniyi-given his return from injury hasn’t gone well.
Forest are desperate for another quality striker in the summer.
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Tricky Tourist
Geoff Thomas
Yep, all five minutes playing time he got at the end of each game also can't be denied.
Deleted User 27810
Stuart Pearce
But that was the point being made was it not?
That Surridge would do a better job coming off the bench as a late sub than Taiwo is currently doing?
Tricky Tourist
Geoff Thomas
You don't think a goal just about every other game isn't a good strike rate?
Deleted User 27810
Stuart Pearce
In a league farmers would call Mickey Mouse
Deleted User 27810
Stuart Pearce
Laugh all you like but if you think scoring less than a goal every other game in MLS means you can cut it in the Premier League you're deluded
MLS is where footballers go to die
MLS is where footballers go to die
Tricky Tourist
Geoff Thomas
MLS is ranked the 9th strongest league in the world now, quite a leap from where it was even 3 years ago. It has its flaws, many of them, but its getting stronger and is a decent competition.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Robbie Findley scored loads in the MLS didn't he?
I can't really think of many who have come from there and done well in the 2nd tier let alone the PL. Maybe Stern John at a pinch?
Surridge might have got a few goals in the run in to promotion but he really isn't good enough for the PL, we didn't give him that many minutes to show it, butt hen he didn't show anything from those minutes to say he was worth more. I seem to recall we played with either Brennan, Lingard or MGW as a false nine in the first season when Taiwo was out and I think Surridge was fit at that point, so presumably Cooper didn't think so either. And when he did get a proper chance he fluffed it (Blackpool).
He did a good job at the start and we should appreciate that but just another whom the club progressed too quickly for him really
Deleted User 27810
Stuart Pearce
Whatever
There's zero chance Surridge would be playing in that league aged 26 if he were a Premier League striker in any way shape or form
Alvar Hanso
Jack Burkitt
For context, that’s one place above the Championship, and one place below the Belgian league.
And the Championship would probably rank higher if it didn’t have Derby dragging it down
Tricky Tourist
Geoff Thomas
Ben Olsen, maybe, but I can't remember what league we were in back then.
Perhaps you're right Statto, but I still think Surridge got a raw deal from Coops in our first season back in the Prem. His finishing was ice cold in the promotion season, and while he was admittedly dismal in that Blackpool game, so was every single other Forest player, so its a bit unfair to single him out in that one. Who knows, maybe in another life he'd have had more opportunities in the Prem, and things might have clicked for him.
Tricky Tourist
Geoff Thomas
You make a good point about the Championship millstone down the A52. But, just because MLS hasn't the pedigree (yet) of the European leagues, including the Belgian, which, btw, has a century headstart over MLS, it's just daft and inaccurate for someone to describe it as a "farmer's league." If that's how we're describing second tier leagues, then the Championship - full of recently relegated Premier League clubs - must be whatever a level below a farmers league might be, something I don't imagine many of us would argue is the case.
I Liked Surridge but if he the answer as a back up Premiership striker why hasn't another club snapped him up?
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GreeksBearingGifts
Stuart Pearce
The problem with the MLS and the Belgian League is not that they are farmer's leagues, but that defences are nowhere near the standard of the Premier or several other European leagues. Therefore, a striker scoring there plenty of goals is not guaranteed to be a prolific scorer in a very different league.
Chappers85
Can't Play Left-Back
I love Surridge, as I do all of the promotion squad, and without him we probably wouldn't have got promoted - his goals when Grabban ans Davis were injured were essential. He is a very good finisher, probably Premier League standard in that regard. But he's not very quick, despite being 6'3 not physically imposing, not particularly good at holding up the ball and his technique and all round play is mid-level Championship level. However, if he'd dropped back down to the Championship and worked, he might have made it back to Prem eventually and done alright.
But he basically ended his career at the top level by playing in the MLS. It's not a farmers league BUT it's far from the 9th best league in the world. It's probably League One/Scottish Prem level (minus Celtic and Rangers) with a few ageing superstars scattered about. Surridge probably isn't scoring huge amounts (decent though) because the players he's playing with aren't creating the chances for him, and he's not the sort of player that will create his own by drifiting past players or turning his man. I imagine his goal/shot conversation is very high. I also don't blame him - probably on a decent wage, can probably play at 85-90% most games and not push his body too much (a bit like Lolley in Sydney) and gets to live somewhere more appealing than Blackburn or Preston or Hull or Stoke or whoever else in the Champ that could have bought him. Good luck to him, but he was never going to be a worthwhile Prem striker for us and like Bowler, O'Brien, Cafu etc only useful had we gone back down.
But he basically ended his career at the top level by playing in the MLS. It's not a farmers league BUT it's far from the 9th best league in the world. It's probably League One/Scottish Prem level (minus Celtic and Rangers) with a few ageing superstars scattered about. Surridge probably isn't scoring huge amounts (decent though) because the players he's playing with aren't creating the chances for him, and he's not the sort of player that will create his own by drifiting past players or turning his man. I imagine his goal/shot conversation is very high. I also don't blame him - probably on a decent wage, can probably play at 85-90% most games and not push his body too much (a bit like Lolley in Sydney) and gets to live somewhere more appealing than Blackburn or Preston or Hull or Stoke or whoever else in the Champ that could have bought him. Good luck to him, but he was never going to be a worthwhile Prem striker for us and like Bowler, O'Brien, Cafu etc only useful had we gone back down.
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