Protesting against WC bid and green belt building

[earthworm]

http://www.rushcliffegreenfields.co.uk/default.html

These folks are protesting against building on green belt, and therefore us leaving the City Ground. They've got a petition going. Get signing it.

Its gets more and more obvious that we're just a pawn in this, a bargaining chip so lots of people can make a packet building on green belt when they shouldn't be.

On Facebook ...

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=195634611132&ref=nf

 

[Caly in our Alley]

Joined and signed. Thanks for posting this up.

 

[Mick]

I don't understand. Why would you sign? Don't you want a new stadium?

 

[Caly in our Alley]

I don't understand. Why would you sign? Don't you want a new stadium?

Only if it is necessary - and the case a new stadium is far from proved - and not on the greenbelt, and certainly not one which will line the pockets of Brian Wells and other unsavoury characters.

 

[earthworm]

I don't understand. Why would you sign? Don't you want a new stadium?

If it comes at the cost of 500 acres of Nottinghamshire green belt, then no. Definitely not.

 

[The_City_Is_Ours]

If it comes at the cost of 500 acres of Nottinghamshire green belt, then no. Definitely not.

.... Not in your backgarden then, eh? That arguments nothing to do with the environment and EVERYTHING to do with the locals house prices!!

 

[earthworm]

.... Not in your backgarden then, eh? That arguments nothing to do with the environment and EVERYTHING to do with the locals house prices!!

I don't live anywhere near it mate, so no. I just don't want building on green belt. That's 500 acres of English countryside we'll never get back.

 

[adam09]

What do you think the land your house is built on was before your house was there?

 

[Mick]

Its hardly a country park though is it?

 

[Eastwood Red]

They sound like a bunch of "NIMBYs" (Not In My Back Yard)

Im sorry but I cannot sign it because this stadium could turn out to be very good to us, on the other hand it could be a disaster.

Until I see the final design for the stadium I will be sitting on the fence.

 

[The_City_Is_Ours]

I don't live anywhere near it mate, so no. I just don't want building on green belt. That's 500 acres of English countryside we'll never get back.

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What do you think the land your house is built on was before your house was there?

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Best go live in the woods then If greenbelt land isn't used for development then sooner or later we'll all be living in squalid urban islands surrounded by unused areas of grassland ...... and all this just so a few badgers and bluetits will be alive for our ultimate destruction once the sun goes mental

 

[Caly in our Alley]

What do you think the land your house is built on was before your house was there?

So any and every housing development is ok? Even if they destroy greenbelt; are mainly unfordable to most people by definition; and are the result of, how shall we say, the result of a collaboration of private interests, rather than the public need?

 

[Eastwood Red]

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Best go live in the woods then If greenbelt land isn't used for development then sooner or later we'll all be living in squalid urban islands surrounded by unused areas of grassland ...... and all this just so a few badgers and bluetits will be alive for our ultimate destruction once the sun goes mental

lol

 

[Caly in our Alley]

Best go live in the woods then If greenbelt land isn't used for development then sooner or later we'll all be living in squalid urban islands surrounded by unused areas of grassland ...... and all this just so a few badgers and bluetits will be alive for our ultimate destruction once the sun goes mental

Absolute rubbish. There is ample brownfield land available in the Notts, as well as a huge number of unnocupied properties. These sites would not, however, be profitable enough for the private sector to consider developing, and so we get these narrow minded and destructive developments such as Sharphill/Gamston instead.

 

[The_City_Is_Ours]

They sound like a bunch of "NIMBYs" (Not In My Back Yard)

Im sorry but I cannot sign it because this stadium could turn out to be very good to us, on the other hand it could be a disaster.

Until I see the final design for the stadium I will be sitting on the fence.

Good point. The only images they've put out or possible artists impressions of the new stadium, so I might turn against a possible development if the design is shoddy ( like Leicesters/Derbys IKEA efforts)

 

[yam]

What do you think the land your house is built on was before your house was there?

My house was built on old NCB land, thanks for asking.

There's plenty of derelict previously developed land to build on without destroying more countryside.

 

[Eastwood Red]

So any and every housing development is ok? Even if they destroy greenbelt; are mainly unfordable to most people by definition; and are the result of, how shall we say, the result of a collaboration of private interests, rather than the public need?

But what is the green belt land currently used for? Is it an area of outstanding natural beauty? Does it serve any purpose?

 

[Jonathan]

I'm sitting firmly on the fence until I see any real plans for a stadium or development.

 

[Caly in our Alley]

But what is the green belt land currently used for? Is it an area of outstanding natural beauty? Does it serve any purpose?

Yes. They serve the enviromental need for land which sustains eco-systems (even a patch of fallow can do this), whilst also acting as an important check against greedy and irresponsible developments - like this one - sprawling out ever futher from the city.

 

[The_City_Is_Ours]

Absolute rubbish. There is ample brownfield land available in the Notts, as well as a huge number of unnocupied properties. These sites would not, however, be profitable enough for the private sector to consider developing, and so we get these narrow minded and destructive developments such as Sharphill/Gamston instead.

Lets hear your suggestions on where a new stadium could be built or how the City Ground could be developed then? Surely developing existing areas would place huge constraints on club, not only financially but also in the design as it would be tailored to fit the needs of the location and not the needs of ourselves.

 

[yam]

Why has the City Ground got to be developed anyway?

So we can have a 30% chance of hosting some minor world cup games?

Or to accomodate the 10s of thousands of fans we turn away every week?

 

[funky]

Lets hear your suggestions on where a new stadium could be built or how the City Ground could be developed then? Surely developing existing areas would place huge constraints on club, not only financially but also in the design as it would be tailored to fit the needs of the location and not the needs of ourselves.

so putting the ground on a green belt doesnt have its constraints?

There is a huge peice on land available next to the rail track in the city centre....why not put it there?

 

[Eastwood Red]

so putting the ground on a green belt doesnt have its constraints?

There is a huge peice on land available next to the rail track in the city centre....why not put it there?

It's already been brought out, the council didn't think about that when they sold it...

 

[Caly in our Alley]

Lets hear your suggestions on where a new stadium could be built or how the City Ground could be developed then? Surely developing existing areas would place huge constraints on club, not only financially but also in the design as it would be tailored to fit the needs of the location and not the needs of ourselves.

The logical answer has always been to redevelop the main stand. If the same financial and political will was put into it as is being done so for the Gamston option, then I'm sure that such a redevelopment would be a realistic possibility.

But this is all rather missing the point. There is no actual pressing need to redevelop the City Ground at all. We currently fill the stadium out twice every year or so, and hosting a handful of games for the World Cup does not justify tearing up our history and leaving one of the best locations for a football ground in the whole country.

 

[forestscott1]

Im afraid im another fence sitter untill the final final final plans have been seen.

For the record I dont buy into the green belt malarky and the you cant build there we're running out of beautiful countryside. These people want to have a looking out of an aeroplane window when flying over England, its all bloody green with the odd town here and there. Saying that they probably do go on planes, carbon footprint and all that !