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Paul Fletcher article on BBC sport

Chopra played quite well and was solid, if unspectacular.

He linked the play quite well.

I think the article was based around Cardiff, with a fleeting mention to Forest because we played them.

He's right in many of his observations, though, and complements Paul McKenna in response to a comment down the bottom.
 
Think you were watching a different game Paul, can't remember Chopra's shot, and every header that Anthony Gerrard (cousin of Steve ::) had went into the stands.

Stick to your rugby league mate.
 
If we were to go up this season, it will be because we will have more points than people who stay down. Therefore we will deserve to go up. You really can't fluke it over the whole season. Let's take it if we can get it. Had Tys, Dex and maybe earnie played on Sunday, we could have won it.
 
Personally I think going up this season COULD be a season too early, but that largely depends on whether we could attract and buy the quality needed to survive in the Premiership.

So am I half deluded?

Hull last season, were clearly f***ing rubbish. They got lucky with wins against the likes of Arsenal and they survived on those early points for the rest of the season. In the second half, they showed their true form, and they've continued that this season.

It's pretty obvious Derby went up with a seriously poor squad. Everybody knew they were going to struggle severely didn't they?

Typical of a Leeds fan to weigh into a decent discussion with a load of narrow minded bollocks.


As for the article. Chopra was bollocks yesterday. And why do people keep banging on about Bothroyd's finish, which was an absolute gift for a striker? The through ball was perfectly weighted and placed for him to stroke it into the corner (you have masses of space to aim at when you're that central) with minimal effort - absolutely bread and butter stuff that a striker should score 10 times out of 10.
 
BIlly Davies likes to win as much as anyone else. He'd be happy to go up this season, but one of his job functions is to manage expectations.

He has to keep a handle on the current players, so they don't get too big for their boots.

He got to bring in incoming players who might join thinking promotion is on the cards, but will still dig in in if it doesn't happen.

He has to keep the chairman's checque book on the desk. ND cannot be allowed to think this project is over with.

Finally, he has to manage the fans. As we get closer to the end of the season and the prospects of play-offs or better are there, the pressure will increase. And what if the team doesn't deliver? You know what a bunch of mardy bastards our fans are, so its best that he keeps the noise down and doesn't let you f***ers run away with yourselves.

E I E I O :D
 
I think by playing the attractive football that we are, then we have the chance of attracting quality players should we go up.

I'd like to think that Raddy will sign permanently in January anyway, but people of his quality teamed with others with previous Premier League experience would create an excellent squad.

I don't think there are too many players that would leave us as we'd add rather than subtract.

I could only see Earnshaw leaving of the current strikers as I don't think he'd get much action in the Premiership.

I look at the signings teams have made who went up last season and think we could do similar. Stoke bought James Beattie who will always score goals and Burnley bought Steven Fletcher is is quality.

Hull got Geovanni who pretty much singlehandedly kept them up while Wolves have got that Elokobi and Kevin Doyle who are solid players at that level.

Where we are now is a long way off where we'd need to be come August 1st, but we have the foundations of an excellent squad.

Two full-backs and two centre-backs, teamed with two wingers, a central midfielder and an experienced striker would do I think.

A lot of players make the step up quite well and I think, in Moussi, Majewski and McGugan, we have the central midfielders already. McKenna would be getting on a little bit, but he is experienced enough to play at virtually any level so adding one central player with Premiership experience is all we'd need in my opinion. You can't forget that we have Cohen as well.

Of the defence, I'd imaging that Wes and Gunter would stay, but a left-back and centre-back would be brought in to take over and have Chambers and Wilson as back up.
 
I thought Wes did a top job and had Chopra in his pocket for the majority of the game, hence the lunge of frustration on Camp when he did finally get a run at our box.

In the games I've seen him play its as if he lets the defender make his mind up for him - he'll run at the center back and wait for them to commit one way so he can go the other. Big Wes was having none of it, making Chopra look clueless when the decision making was put back upon himself.
 
Jonathan said:
Two full-backs and two centre-backs, teamed with two wingers, a central midfielder and an experienced striker would do I think.
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Tee Hee. That's a whole team.
 
I largely agree with Jonathan. Though I think Earnie can cut it in the prem, I suspect it won't be with us.

What we have is the potential to make a very good team indeed. The best teams you ever see are those that have played together for years and generally you only get that if a group comes through the academy together (eg the beckham/scholes/etc generation at Man U). We have now a bunch of young and talented players with a great team spirit who are likely to be together for several seasons at least. A few players could make the step up now and many will be ready with a few more months of proper football. If the team is tight enough even players who wouldn't be considered good enough on their own are vital enough as part of a team to make it too (just look at the first seasons a lot of promoted clubs have had recently: reading, stoke, hull had a good 6 months, all very good teams with largely average players). With a few careful additions and continued good management I really believe we could have a golden generation on our hands.

As for going up too early: it's never too early to win £50m. Even if we come straight back down that is a season well worth it both for the money and for the experience for young players (no one is ever going to beat Derby's record so I don't think we need worry about that). The other very important advantage we have over Derby, Reading, Stoke etc are those two little stars either side of the tree on our badge. Recently promoted teams have struggled to attract any high calibre players and have ended up paying way over the odds for very mediocre players or simply not signing anyone at all. Despite all the self-doubting paranoia you read on here Forest are still a profile club; I mean, what does your average Spaniard know about Stoke City? Probably as much as I know about Real Oviedo. Does he know anything about Nottingham Forest, double European champions? Well duh. While we're not going to tempt any galacticos any time soon we are considerably more attractive than, say, Burnley, especially to foreign players.

Anyway, exciting times ahead in in my opinion.
 
Less is more IMO. If we went up I would rather we bought 4 class players than 7 or 8 fairly good ones. 1 CB, 1 LB, 1 L winger, 1 top, top striker. Then just pray like hell they don't all get injured. We've got plenty of talent and wouldn't expect too many to leave..Maybe Earnie, so squad would be big enough.
Geovanni for Hull shows how 1 player can help you stay up.
 
I think the best signing for a team who were a 'lower-half' outfit was Charles N'Zogbia for Wigan. He's a very good player.
 
Jonathan said:
Chopra played quite well and was solid, if unspectacular.

He linked the play quite well.
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Intersetingly, I thought Chopra only started linking the play when, after about 60 minutes, he seemed to start dropping deeper and deeper. I put this down to frustration at his inability to get any change out of Wes and Wilson...
 
ç¤ñĝð_ŗèđ said:
Intersetingly, I thought Chopra only started linking the play when, after about 60 minutes, he seemed to start dropping deeper and deeper. I put this down to frustration at his inability to get any change out of Wes and Wilson...
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I think he did it all match, but only stuck to that alone at the point you mention.

Wes and Wilson did keep him largely under wraps, but I think a lot of what he did on Sunday went unnoticed because people were looking for him as a goalscorer.
 
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