Oh dear....

[davenport]

Just thought i'd take a look at some of the d****y boards to see how they did today and everything doesn't seem so rosy for young Nige at prideless park at the minute just take a look at some of these little gems from Derby mad...

Well I want the fella to do well, but a mere 6 league matches in and I have major doubts about whether he is capable of managing at C.C.C. level.
The whole set-up today was disgraceful.
Again, playing at home with one striker, a so-called five-man-midfield that offered no service to Hulse and the first two substitutions that altered absolutely nothing.
The final substitution summed the rather unadventureous Clough up, when he swapped centre backs in injury time!! That frightened 'em Nigel
and baffled the life out of every other person in the ground.
Oh dear. :wub:


Why the **** did he put on Leacock when we are 1-0 down??? What have we got Dickov for if we arent going to use him? I have never been keen on Clough, after all it took him 10 years at Burton, he aint gonna get 10 years here, or maybe thats the Board's plan, if he keeps this up, crowds will be down to 20,000 or less in no time, be interesting to see how many turn out for barnsley. ???

I've given up on away games after Scunny and Florest, just not worth spending the cash to see the crap being dished out at the moment - still will stick with Clough until Chritsmas, if no better then he has to go. :wacko:

'If he keeps playing Hulse up on his own I may well consider putting my season ticket up for sale while it's still worth selling. I didn't sign up for negativity.' :nowink:

'we lost to scunny and they had scored 3 goals before today all againt us and the 2 teams we have beat are doing rubbish so far. fact is we are conceding goals left right and centre and thats with 4-5-1

...still feeling positive ....... NO :fartlight:


Even a Shef Utd fan had this to say

WHAT A JOKE YOUR FANS WERE TODAY!!

So so quite the only time i heard your lot say anything is when a small cheer came in from the corner that thought hulse had scored when he hit the side netting

Get some balls about u all and dont give up on ur team, i know its typical Derby Mentality that u only support them when they do well but a bit of noise would of helped ur team today maybe even give the players confidence to string a pass together, even ur dlf corner didnt sing. :clap:

I could go on obviously there is alot of sheep still supportive of young Nige but the honeymoon period appears to be welland truely over :smug:

 

[dbarraclough]

Have their mobile phone contracts run out or something too. They got 28k ish. Good crowd but down on the 33k I heard them bragging about a couple of weeks ago. Would of thought the blunts would be a good draw. Wheres the 5000 gone? :blink:

 

[TheDude]

back to university :dunno:

 

[davenport]

Its getting quite addictive this, I found this nugget from another site, you couldn't write it 9 pages on this topic alone

Proof Nigel is a bad manager
Posted: 12-Sep-2009 16:41 Reply

The moment that prooved to me Negative Non-League Nigel is a poor manager is the Leacock substitution.

We were 1-0 down at home with five minutes to go with a striker on the bench that he signed

he took off a defender who had put in a decent shift and replaced him with another defender.

Negative Non-League Nigel had given up he had no faith in his players getting a goal and wasn't prepared to gamble to try and win a point.


lol lol lolOther posters are trying to say its a good result (losing 1-0) and that playing 1up front at home was tactically correct, others say they are in a mini league with the likes of Barnsley and wait for it clough will have done a good job if he keeps Derby in the Championship for the next 3 - 4 seasons. ;D

 

[dbarraclough]

Another home defeat and they'll be ripping up their sim cards

 

[davenport]

Theres more, this is more addictive than my love affair with football manager as an 11 year old onme zx spectrum...


Even the players are questioning his decision

Hulse's reaction to commons coming on a left wing he just shook his head in disbelief

Barker's suprise at being hauled of, he thought is was a mistake as I am sure many of the fans did given the situation.

You can't deny either of those incidents took place there were 28,000 witnesses, I am sure he will have been asked to explain those decisions by the players after the game.

I'm sure theres more out there, I'm gonna miss match of the day at this rate

 

[davenport]

last one, for now

Re: The right to critizise without being called a moaner!
Posted: 12-Sep-2009 21:01 in response to: sheffieldrams Reply

ive stopped using this forum (cause its full of kids,talking crap) but I like to occasionally drop in. I see things havent changed."Sheff utd are the best team in the league"-no they are not.4-5-1 will work.-not at home it wont.
Same happy clapping ...different day,.
Todays performance was terrible.one dimensional boring durge.Clough cocked up today with bad tactics.Hulse was stranded with no help.4-5-1 at home is neither positive or confidence building for fans or players alike.Calls for his sacking are both premature and stupid but reasons to question his ability at this level are to be understood.The Championship is a big difference to the conference.
We played well against Peterborough,we havent played well since,cause for concern is real and if we fail to win on tuesday then the brown stuff will really start to fly.


Apparentlt they were also booing Commons whenn he came on, as the thread says Oh dear!

 

[goatboy]

What with the crap he was coming out with after the Forest game it looks like the reality of league management is getting to Nigel a bit. They're still above us though.

Keep posting the quotes from their boards, can't be arsed to go on them myself but the stuff I've read on here is hilarious. Commons being booed is no more than he deserves from either set of fans. Let's see if all four sides of Pride Park can boo him in the next game. Fat lazy bastard.

 

[davenport]

here ya go

re: re: re: re: re: Clough? ...
What he proved at Burton was that given 10 years he could get a side promoted from the conference, big flaming deal, given 10 years we might if we are lucky still be in the championship - face facts

Today we played 4-5-1 - Hulse battled up front but time and time again there was noone to run onto his flick ons - yes we had plenty of possesion - though that was more down to the Blades being content to let us do that - but how many chnaces did we create? How many actual shots on goal? Neither teale or croft can cross a ball for toffee, first decent cross was when Commons came on.

Then we losing with less than 10 to go, does Clough throw another striker on, does he heck, we swop centre backs (To give Leacock a run out he said after the game - FFS you do that when your winning or drawing, when your losing you change the formation and put an an attacker on - why swap Livermore for Green, why put teale on the right and Commons on the left, why stick with 4-5-1 when its clear we create no chances, its getting beyond a joke he ****ed it up first half at Forest and he ****ed it uop second half today - we are going nowhere, just pray that there are 3 worse teams in the Championship than us, cos its a relegation battle again.

 

[Pasty Power]

I'm luvin it

I got bared for life from dcfcrams site just after the Forest game for telling them how it is , seems like some of the shaggers are realising it now

 

[Marino Rahmberg]

Some of our fans were even saying that losing only 1-0 to Sheff Utd was a good result, absolutely baffled by that one. We were yesterday, tactics and formation were all wrong. Its not all doom and gloom but we need to pick up points against Barnsley and Palace in the next two games or the fickle lot will turn.

What were Wednesday like yesterday?

 

[clusternakker]

What did they expect, lol , Derby simply hired the name 'Clough'. The fairytale is failing to materialise, obviously.

 

[Marino Rahmberg]

We've only played 6 games! And when I checked the table this morning we were still above you? Pettiness aside, we'l be mid-table at the end of the season, with you either one or two places above or below us. No one ( realistic fans) is thinking we are going to go on to be a wonderful passing side winning every week just because a guy called Clough is in charge. We've been shit for a few years, not going to change over night.

What were Wednesday like?

 

[sebs]

they're wrong. 4-5-1 can be far more attacking than 4-4-2. unfortunately i imagine their problem was that when you struggle against a better team playing 4-5-1, the midfielders who should be getting up to attack usually take on a defensive mentality.

don't understand what this is doing in forest banter though.

and going onto derby boards to "tell them how it is" is pretty low and will probably come back and bite us in the bum. we're still below them in the table.

 

[goatboy]

What were Wednesday like?

Frustrated.

 

[Pasty Power]

I hope your winding me up :wacko: I don't think it's low like you say more of just having some banter & no it will certainly not return to bite us on the bum :wink:

Derby are only above us as they have had a much easier start to the season than Forest, wait untill Christmas there will be a 8/10 point gap between us & them. Hells bells even some of their own are now realising it

 

[Randy Bumgardener]

We've only played 6 games! And when I checked the table this morning we were still above you? Pettiness aside, we'l be mid-table at the end of the season, with you either one or two places above or below us. No one ( realistic fans) is thinking we are going to go on to be a wonderful passing side winning every week just because a guy called Clough is in charge. We've been shit for a few years, not going to change over night.

What were Wednesday like?

Your fans seem to be as fustrated with Nige's tactics as we were at times with CC. I think we stay positive because we can see the team grow and a lot of signs that we are getting better. The derby fans I know are fed up of rediculous tactics, lack of quality signings and nothing really to look forward to in the near future.

This isn't me being anti derby, just what I have gathered from speaking to derby fans. Would you say Commons has become the player we thought he may ? A few good games then a load of awful performances. The one that really puzzled me was his contribution to 2 of the goals we scored agaionst you with no obvious effort.

 

[Rhods]

Clough has inherited a poor squad and has had to cut back on numbers whilst being given sod all to spend on decent quality new players. Yes Derby are terrible at the moment, but that is to be expected given the circumstances. Their target this year will be to avoid relegation and to gradually build a team of players with the willingness and ability to play Clough's favoured style of football.

I suspect Commons will be out on his arse in January, and Hulse will be sold to fund other purchases.

It could well be that Clough isn't cut out for Championship management, but there's no way that we'll really know that for another 12 months.

 

[Bridgfordred79]

We've only played 6 games! And when I checked the table this morning we were still above you? Pettiness aside, we'l be mid-table at the end of the season, with you either one or two places above or below us. No one ( realistic fans) is thinking we are going to go on to be a wonderful passing side winning every week just because a guy called Clough is in charge. We've been s**t for a few years, not going to change over night.

What were Wednesday like?

At last, a sensible Derby fan posting.

Indeed you are certainly not going down, but with the likes of Hulse and Commons you should making a push for promotion, however Nige is preventing that with non-league tactics.

 

[RRRREDUN]

One of my sheep-fan mates, who seems to have a few inside-routes into Derby rumours, told me that Nige only had two tasks this season...
1. To keep them up - they just might manage it.
2. To reduce the wage bill substantially. Could be why they would have liked to get rid of Hulse (but wanted to dress it up to make Hulse say he wanted to go (to Boro)) and Commons (but Celtic didn't want a player who would only give them 20 games a season. The Mary-Anne Savage situation is that the Sheep can't really afford his £18,000 per week wages.

 

[RRRREDUN]

BTW Marino, Wednesday were there for the taking yesterday. Sure, we're still behind you, but I do honestly feel we have had slightly more diff opposition (and have been a little unlucky in one or two matches). You've come up against two stiffer tests (Blunts and the Trickies) and have been found wanting. Perhaps Derby should have brought in managers and players to do a specific job for the club, rather than trying to p-ss off you big rivals. eg Commons, Barker (was he the guy we supposedly were interested in from Blackpool?) and of course Nigel.

 

[Gary]

I see superram has decided to avoid this topic.

 

[Marino Rahmberg]

I'd say Commons is showing every sign of being the player you were advising us was going to be, although while I an see why he didn't play yesterday following from his shocking performance against you, I can't understand why Clough isn't playing him up with or just off the shoulder of Hulse, which sensibly would see us playing to one of limited strengths. At the moment, we are getting the odd performance from Commons, which is sandwiched between a complete half arsed approach most of the time. He's quality on his day, but they are like bank holidays, once in a while and you make the most of it. If NC starts using him, imo, in his best position, he'll do well but I just don't think they get on. I won't be surprised to see him move in January.

If you are one nil down at home with 10 mins to go, you don't wait until 89 mins to replace your CB with another one and continue to play 4-5-1 against a team that aren't exactly going all out to get another one, crazy.

Your fans seem to be as fustrated with Nige's tactics as we were at times with CC. I think we stay positive because we can see the team grow and a lot of signs that we are getting better. The derby fans I know are fed up of rediculous tactics, lack of quality signings and nothing really to look forward to in the near future.

This isn't me being anti derby, just what I have gathered from speaking to derby fans. Would you say Commons has become the player we thought he may ? A few good games then a load of awful performances. The one that really puzzled me was his contribution to 2 of the goals we scored agaionst you with no obvious effort.

 

[Randy Bumgardener]

I'd say Commons is showing every sign of being the player you were advising us was going to be, although while I an see why he didn't play yesterday following from his shocking performance against you, I can't understand why Clough isn't playing him up with or just off the shoulder of Hulse, which sensibly would see us playing to one of limited strengths. At the moment, we are getting the odd performance from Commons, which is sandwiched between a complete half arsed approach most of the time. He's quality on his day, but they are like bank holidays, once in a while and you make the most of it. If NC starts using him, imo, in his best position, he'll do well but I just don't think they get on. I won't be surprised to see him move in January.

He was doing well as a second striker for you. Seemed a good foil for Hulse. Maybe the 'alleged' failed medical to celtic has knocked him for 6 ? You sound exactly the same as us now. He had a great season last season too.

If you are one nil down at home with 10 mins to go, you don't wait until 89 mins to replace your CB with another one and continue to play 4-5-1 against a team that aren't exactly going all out to get another one, crazy.

Sounds very strange. On another note, how do you rate Barker ?

 

[Marino Rahmberg]

It was an incredibly odd substitution, crowd didn't know what was going on and Barker couldn't believe he was going off. When Commons came on Hulse asked NC if he was going to playing with him, and shook his head in disbelief at NC when he said no.

For the first 30 mins Barker looked like a rabbit in the headlights, very nervous and misplaced and mistimed a few clearances and tackles. His decision making wasn't great either but second half he was solid, great in the air and looks to be a good prospect, stupidly gave away a needless free kick which led to their goal but positive signs. He'll be a good addition once he finds his feet, yesterday was the first time we've seen him.

We're a bit like a broken record, different personnel, same mistakes.