Nuno Espírito Santo

RedRich

RedRich

Viv Anderson
Im still pissed at Nuno and had he shut his mardy arse and done the job, this could have been our season to shine.


So, to serinade west hams departure and to the tune of Stone Roses bye bye badman.

(Go easy on me and feel free to recompose, I've had a few...)

Here he comes
Got relegated, got no love (from hammers fans or us)
We're throwing stones at you, man
In your crappy claret and blue and
We're glad to make you bleed
Gonna bring you down to your knees
Bye bye, Nuno, bye bye

He had bad intentions
He intended to send us down
These stones we throw, oh, these French kisses
see you off to, Pride Park ground

do do de doo do...

Choke me, smoke the air
In this bank holiday sunshine
we don't care, you're no longer here (In the Prem)
You've been bought and paid (By mendez)
You're a whore and a slave
Your jobs not a holy shrine
Cos in the end, you whine.....
 
FBS

FBS

Steve Chettle
isaacs

isaacs

Jack Burkitt
Project Zeus said:
The Athletic are reporting that he fell out with West Ham players over the season, and at times he wouldn't say anything at HT or FT.

I genuinely think something's happened to him mentally over the last year. He was so warm and personable here before last summer.
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Its as if he stopped taking medication in the summer. Completely lost his way.

Either that or Edu is the coldest m****rf****r with his putdowns because whatever he said to Nuno has put him into a tailspin.
 
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Your Dad's Ashamed Of You

Geoff Thomas
Devil's advocate hat on here. Now none of us know exactly what went on. But if I'd overseen the finest season in the club's last 30 years and I'd got wind of the fact my position was under threat to Notgotaclue of all people I think I may have been a little miffed. He's absolutely f**ked up royally but I'm not sure I can bring myself to hate him because I just don't know all the facts.
 
Osiris

Osiris

We HATE the Villa
Your Dad's Ashamed Of You said:
Devil's advocate hat on here. Now none of us know exactly what went on. But if I'd overseen the finest season in the club's last 30 years and I'd got wind of the fact my position was under threat to Notgotaclue of all people I think I may have been a little miffed. He's absolutely f**ked up royally but I'm not sure I can bring myself to hate him because I just don't know all the facts.
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If none of us know what went on what makes you believe Nuno thought his position was under threat?
 
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Your Dad's Ashamed Of You

Geoff Thomas
Osiris said:
If none of us know what went on what makes you believe Nuno thought his position being under threat?
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As I say, I don't. I think it may have been a possibility. I also think he may have been told to change the style faster than he thought possible and ultimately he would be toast. Whatever the truth going from Nunoball to Angeball with a full pre season was going to be a challenge. After the season started was batshit mental. Just don't hate the guy because there is part of me that suspects he may have had a legitimate grievance.
 
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reksaurus

A. Trialist
Im just glad we survived, relegation with how mental the ownership can be would have utter chaos and not in a good way.

While it is quite amusing that Nuno upset the apple cart and forsake a season in Europe with us only to get relegated, it is easy to wonder what if…I think we had been found out towards the end of last season and the change would have happened anyway should we have not progressed in Europe. Ultimately it was the Nuno > Ange transition that caused us to be where we were, I just hope lessons have been learned.

Heres to a period of stability 😅
 
GOBIAS

GOBIAS

Ian Bowyer
TrickyTree101 said:
Don't know how much of this is true - but sounds like he fell out with lots of people, also the fact Big M made sure he could not take this back room staff with him made his job so much harder - I mean how many people have to learn the hard way not to mess with Big M.


https://www.paywallskip.com/article?url=https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7083336/2026/05/24/west-ham-relegated-premier-league-nuno-transfers-analysis/
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If that is true about the backroom staff that little bit of sabotage by EM could well have been the fine margin that kept us up.
 
Monkman

Monkman

John Robertson
TrickyTree101 said:
Don't know how much of this is true - but sounds like he fell out with lots of people, also the fact Big M made sure he could not take this back room staff with him made his job so much harder - I mean how many people have to learn the hard way not to mess with Big M.


https://www.paywallskip.com/article?url=https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7083336/2026/05/24/west-ham-relegated-premier-league-nuno-transfers-analysis/
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Wow, what a cluster****. It's surprising they got to 39 points.
 
Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Your Dad's Ashamed Of You said:
Devil's advocate hat on here. Now none of us know exactly what went on. But if I'd overseen the finest season in the club's last 30 years and I'd got wind of the fact my position was under threat to Notgotaclue of all people I think I may have been a little miffed. He's absolutely f**ked up royally but I'm not sure I can bring myself to hate him because I just don't know all the facts.
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Have you thought that the position came under threat because said manager was acting up in pre season? His position was not under threat when he signed a new deal, those rumours only started to come out when he was starting to use the press to amplify any problems. As I have said before people misremember the timeline.

The stuff we do know from the media is that Nuno instigated most of this until he became the main story, he chose a battle and lost it - and it’s quite satisfying seeing him get relegated as an end result of it. He was not acting in the interests of the club, that’s all a manager is required to do. We were lucky his dreadful pre season & shenanigans didn’t cost us, it took us over half a season to recover from it & poor pre seasons often lead to bad results.
 
incapable hulk

incapable hulk

Best served cold
Your Dad's Ashamed Of You said:
Devil's advocate hat on here. Now none of us know exactly what went on. But if I'd overseen the finest season in the club's last 30 years and I'd got wind of the fact my position was under threat to Notgotaclue of all people I think I may have been a little miffed. He's absolutely f**ked up royally but I'm not sure I can bring myself to hate him because I just don't know all the facts.
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His position wasn't under threat to Postecoglou.

Marinakis gave Nuno a massive new 3 year contract 2 weeks AFTER Ange was sacked by Spurs.
 
HBB

HBB

John Robertson
LOL - to use my dad's old phrase - it makes my arse laugh, to hear all the utter nonsense that people nowadays dream up to "explain" why things happen because for some reason there has to be a masterplan when life is rarely if ever like that. Nuno throws his toys out the pram - oh it must be because Ange was being courted - coincidence is not causation. From what I see it went something like:

1. Nuno throws a wobbly because he doesn't like Edu and how things are going with transfers and wants more/complete control. Possibly also helps his narrative as to why we didn't get CL (can't be seen to be his fault) and I don't doubt that confrontation on the pitch still sticks in his throat.
2. Nuno as it turns out is a bit of a prick and not beyond being petty and spiteful, downs tools to get his way and gambles he has enough credit in the bank to get his way (reports about him not speaking to Hutchinson for weeks because he didn't want him illustrate his pettiness) but also knows he'll get a job elsewhere.
3. Proud and all-powerful EM doesn't like his powerplay and a not so subtle war of wills breaks out.
4. Nuno knows he'll get a job elsewhere whatever happens and sticks to his guns.
5, Impasse reached and EM is determined he won't be pushed around
6. Forest need someone NOW, Ange is one of several managers available and he and EM have met recently.
5. Ange's self confidence and argument that injuries is what really did for his league campaign at Spurs is convincing enough that EM rolls the dice but more important is that Nuno has made the current situation untenable and urgent.
7. f*** off Nuno.

People need to listen to more old pro interviews that reveal the chaos that exists in football; personality clashes, injuries, tapping up, not being fancied by a manager, dips in form and miscalculations, stupidity, fan pressure etc and that's just the bits they feel they can make public. There are very few master plans by genius manipulators and hubris, pride and politics together with a hefty dose of stupidity and luck mean that the vast majority of decisions and goings on are reactive, unplanned and mercurial.

All of this is nothing new - Cloughie did it at Derby and Leeds paid the price.

Worth remembering that we're dealing with a world where the normal factors that we, in the normal world live by, don't exist. Job security for the likes of Nuno barely exist and he's at a level that there'll always be options and he's a multi-millionaire anyway to cushion the blow.
 
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Listen 'ere young man

Listen 'ere young man

Stuart Pearce
Nuno's back room staff are key, they weren't with him at Spurs either.

If the report of goings on behind the scenes is true, he won't be the manager next year. Already talks of Scott Parker taking over.
 
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