new shirt farce

forest forever

First Team Squad
Im i the only one to be pissed of about the new shirt farce on the OS which will now be on sale aug 7, words fail me about how much we have lost in summer sales, I live 20 miles from the ground, so on fri aug 7 i'll be getting some shut eye before the trip to reading, things change i know 9 new players, but commercial they couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, commercial manager a priority as well as a centre half
 
In fairness, knowing the way these things work, the blame probably doesn't lie with anybody at Nottingham Forest, certainly not the commercial manager.

Yes, the late announcement of the new sponsor hasn't helped matters, but if Umbro, the kit manufacturer turns around and says to the club: "Sorry, but we can't deliver any stocks of the new kit until 7th August", what is the club supposed to do? They could threaten to move to another kit manufacturer, but Umbro will be well aware that if Forest do that, it would delay the kit further still, so what would be the point (and that's before we get into the political complexity of Doughty's (past) involvement with Umbro, breach of contract etc.)?

Basically, the club are at the mercy of the Kit manufacturer.
 

Johnny Bravo

Jack Armstrong
forest forever said:
Im i the only one to be pissed of about the new shirt farce on the OS which will now be on sale aug 7, words fail me about how much we have lost in summer sales, I live 20 miles from the ground, so on fri aug 7 i'll be getting some shut eye before the trip to reading, things change i know 9 new players, but commercial they couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, commercial manager a priority as well as a centre half

They've had to sort a sponsor which has taken a while to bring as much money as possible into the club and the shirts now have to be made with the sponsor on.

The suppliers are the ones we are now waiting on this isn't the fault of a commercial manager or the club.
 
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clusternakker

Guest
They could have shelled out for next day delivery
 
clusternakker said:
They could have shelled out for next day delivery

Which would have been added to the price of the shirt no doubt.

Assuming these are made overseas, there is a gaping chasm in the difference between costs of air freight and sea freight.
 

redrob

A. Trialist
I can confirm that Steve Prescott the Commercial Manager is a prize idiot
 

LoveAlfa

Youth Team
This club is a joke in so many ways - from loosing our way in the nineties in a fashion only bettered by Mark Thatcher to the debacle of our commercial activities.

Appalling organisation with regard to the launch of any new kit - always too late. And what IS the point of teaser advertisements, we are hardly seeing the launch of a new Jaguar or James Bond film!

Forest, just show the kit in it's entirety and stop this stupid messing around. Get your fingers out and get things done ON TIME and ON BUDGET....

This episode with the new kit may seem trivial but it is such a graphic reminder of the poor organisation that run our once GREAT club.

Unfortunately, we have to live it and put up with it.

I want;

1, Promotion - without fail. any talk from BD of playoffs and he should be given a warning
2, Great kits - start dictating to Umbro or whoever that we want traditional
3, A new website - our website being run by that stupid company has to be one of the most inept out there.
4, Redevelopment of the City Ground - new main stand, new BC stand and a proper Bridgford End stand.
5, Stop this stupid Forest World nonesense
6, A new club badge - get rid of that stupid 1970s font and give us something for the here and now.
7, A lasting tribute to Peter Taylor
8, Only charge £1 entry for any home game after a loosing game - get people in and reward them for supporting the club. It encourages a full house and therefore great support and thus reducing another loss!
9, I really do want a new club badge
10, Ill think of something else
 
M

Monk De Wally De Honk

Guest
I was shirt farced the the night,terrible hangover

as for the shirts, well whoppety f***ing doo, buy one a few weeks later
 

Johnny Bravo

Jack Armstrong
LoveAlfa said:
This club is a joke in so many ways - from loosing our way in the nineties in a fashion only bettered by Mark Thatcher to the debacle of our commercial activities.

Appalling organisation with regard to the launch of any new kit - always too late. And what IS the point of teaser advertisements, we are hardly seeing the launch of a new Jaguar or James Bond film!

Forest, just show the kit in it's entirety and stop this stupid messing around. Get your fingers out and get things done ON TIME and ON BUDGET....

This episode with the new kit may seem trivial but it is such a graphic reminder of the poor organisation that run our once GREAT club.

Unfortunately, we have to live it and put up with it.

I want;

1, Promotion - without fail. any talk from BD of playoffs and he should be given a warning
2, Great kits - start dictating to Umbro or whoever that we want traditional
3, A new website - our website being run by that stupid company has to be one of the most inept out there.
4, Redevelopment of the City Ground - new main stand, new BC stand and a proper Bridgford End stand.
5, Stop this stupid Forest World nonesense
6, A new club badge - get rid of that stupid 1970s font and give us something for the here and now.
7, A lasting tribute to Peter Taylor
8, Only charge £1 entry for any home game after a loosing game - get people in and reward them for supporting the club. It encourages a full house and therefore great support and thus reducing another loss!
9, I really do want a new club badge
10, Ill think of something else

The fans overreacting all the time being probably the biggest joke.
 
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clusternakker

Guest
LoveAlfa said:
This club is a joke in so many ways - from loosing our way in the nineties in a fashion only bettered by Mark Thatcher to the debacle of our commercial activities.

Appalling organisation with regard to the launch of any new kit - always too late. And what IS the point of teaser advertisements, we are hardly seeing the launch of a new Jaguar or James Bond film!

Forest, just show the kit in it's entirety and stop this stupid messing around. Get your fingers out and get things done ON TIME and ON BUDGET....

This episode with the new kit may seem trivial but it is such a graphic reminder of the poor organisation that run our once GREAT club.

Unfortunately, we have to live it and put up with it.

I want;

1, Promotion - without fail. any talk from BD of playoffs and he should be given a warning
2, Great kits - start dictating to Umbro or whoever that we want traditional
3, A new website - our website being run by that stupid company has to be one of the most inept out there.
4, Redevelopment of the City Ground - new main stand, new BC stand and a proper Bridgford End stand.
5, Stop this stupid Forest World nonesense
6, A new club badge - get rid of that stupid 1970s font and give us something for the here and now.
7, A lasting tribute to Peter Taylor
8, Only charge £1 entry for any home game after a loosing game - get people in and reward them for supporting the club. It encourages a full house and therefore great support and thus reducing another loss!
9, I really do want a new club badge
10, Ill think of something else


Ooooo, get her!
 
LoveAlfa said:
1, Promotion - without fail. any talk from BD of playoffs and he should be given a warning
2, Great kits - start dictating to Umbro or whoever that we want traditional
3, A new website - our website being run by that stupid company has to be one of the most inept out there.
4, Redevelopment of the City Ground - new main stand, new BC stand and a proper Bridgford End stand.
5, Stop this stupid Forest World nonesense
6, A new club badge - get rid of that stupid 1970s font and give us something for the here and now.
7, A lasting tribute to Peter Taylor
8, Only charge £1 entry for any home game after a loosing game - get people in and reward them for supporting the club. It encourages a full house and therefore great support and thus reducing another loss!
9, I really do want a new club badge
10, Ill think of something else

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Forest's most miserable supporter.
 
W

winnits

Guest
LoveAlfa said:
1, Promotion - without fail. any talk from BD of playoffs and he should be given a warning

Of course we want promotion, but most would argue even targeting playoffs is a lofty ambition.

LoveAlfa said:
2, Great kits - start dictating to Umbro or whoever that we want traditional

I know this is an 'I want' list, but then it says 'we want' in here - not everyone will want traditional. I imagine the target audience (younger demographic) will want contempory styling. Since the kit is there to generate revenue through sponsorship and sales, I would say it likely you are in the minority in wanting traditional, and that it would be a marketing faux pas to pander to it.

LoveAlfa said:
3, A new website - our website being run by that stupid company has to be one of the most inept out there.

I can't argue with you here, the PremiumTV templates are terrible. I would love to put a team of people together to sort the Forest website out.

LoveAlfa said:
4, Redevelopment of the City Ground - new main stand, new BC stand and a proper Bridgford End stand.

Hardly top priority, rather dependent on not only point 1 being achieved, but consolidation after. Plus there's the new ground talk to consider.

LoveAlfa said:
5, Stop this stupid Forest World nonesense

Why? It's poxy, granted, but it makes some cash.

LoveAlfa said:
6, A new club badge - get rid of that stupid 1970s font and give us something for the here and now.

To go with your 'traditional' kits, huh?

LoveAlfa said:
7, A lasting tribute to Peter Taylor

I can certainly agree wholeheartedly with you on this.

LoveAlfa said:
8, Only charge £1 entry for any home game after a loosing game - get people in and reward them for supporting the club. It encourages a full house and therefore great support and thus reducing another loss!

Logistically difficult, but an interesting idea. You could end up getting a season ticket for about £50 though which is a little harsh on those that paid up front.

LoveAlfa said:
9, I really do want a new club badge

You really would be in the minority there - look at the monstrosity Notts have just released!

LoveAlfa said:
10, Ill think of something else

I read that as "Ill, think of something else"... explains a lot! :D
 

andover red

Grenville Morris
LoveAlfa said:
6, A new club badge - get rid of that stupid 1970s font and give us something for the here and now.
9, I really do want a new club badge

Yes you started a thread about it a few weeks ago and as you will have seen from the responses, the vast majority on this forum totally disagree.
 

Gary

No wonder my post count..
There's absolutely no chance we could get rid of premium tv. I imagine we'd lose a crap load of money pulling out from the media, the subscriptions and everything internet related.

You'd just have to wait for the whole regime to collapse before we'd try to pull out.
 
forestBolton said:
There's absolutely no chance we could get rid of premium tv. I imagine we'd lose a crap load of money pulling out from the media, the subscriptions and everything internet related.

You'd just have to wait for the whole regime to collapse before we'd try to pull out.

It nearly happened in the early days of PTV (shortly after the ITV Digital collapse) but they somehow scraped through. Forest World is still a completely out-dated system of providing video content though. Free video and paid-for advertising is the way to go, surely?

As for the shirts, so what if they were waiting to get a sponsor and then hear from the supplier? Surely they've had a mock-up of the shirt for a long time. Stick it on a player or model, take a photograph, start selling shirts for pre-order via the website in early June, make lots of money. Simple.
 

DanR

Steve Chettle
Glen has already ordered his new shirt.
 

alfordred

First Team Squad
Rouge said:
as for the shirts, well whoppety f**king doo, buy one a few weeks later
Absolutely, so the shirts out quite late, we didn't have a sponsor until last week. And the are hardly 'lost' sales, the same people will buy them anyway - just not until August. I'm quite glad saves the boy moaning on at me and we can just pick one up when we play WBA.
Hopefully we will have signed FOX by then too, gotta be the cheapest players name ever!, unless we try and poach Jo from Everton.
 

PopUpRed

First Team Squad
LoveAlfa said:
9, I really do want a new club badge

How about...

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Razza01

A. Trialist
redrob said:
I can confirm that Steve Prescott the Commercial Manager is a prize idiot

very harsh indeed.
 

redrob

A. Trialist

RRRREDUN

Jack Burkitt
Tell you what LoveAlpha - YOU make up your own badge, buy a shirt and affix the said badge over the real Forest one. The rest of us will just wear the shirt WITH the old tree, which most of us quite like.
 
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