Much Edu about nothing…

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EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
I am not certain the signings have been horrendous. The managers we have employed were utter tosh. I’d love to seen us with a good manager this year. Someone like a silva.
 
JonnoSnr

JonnoSnr

Jack Armstrong
Otis Redding said:
I don't know what Frank Clark's Tash could have otherwise meant by suggesting that..... "Marinakis should learn to stick in his lane"?
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I think he meant that he needs to learn to delegate more to footballing people rather than stop trying to challenge the establishment. Might be wrong though...
 
Otis Redding

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
Cloughie1975 said:
Beat me to it but it was before my time attending games.
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It was a masterclass of passing football Norman, topped-off by a hatrick from their Brazilian international centre-forward, Waldo. I don't posses your memory for minute game detail, but I do clearly remember that Bobby McKinlay and Jim Iley simply couldn't cope with his power and movement.

We could play on the deck back then (Jeff Whitefoot, Calvin Palmer and Iley were lovely passers of the ball) but we just couldn't match Valencia's speed and precision.
 
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Cloughie1975

Stuart Pearce
Otis Redding said:
It was a masterclass of passing football Norman, topped-off by a hatrick from their Brazilian international centre-forward, Waldo. I don't posses your memory for almost-minute game detail, but I do clearly remember that Bobby McKinlay and Jim Iley simply couldn't cope with his power and movement.
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Although it was 35 years later I probably had a similar feeling when Jurgen Klinnsmann made our defence look stupid when Bayern Munich thrashed us by a similar score in the EUFA Cup.

Needless to say we were relegated the next season.
 
I'm Red Till Dead

I'm Red Till Dead

Stuart Pearce
Otis Redding said:
It was a masterclass of passing football Norman, topped-off by a hatrick from their Brazilian international centre-forward, Waldo. I don't posses your memory for minute game detail, but I do clearly remember that Bobby McKinlay and Jim Iley simply couldn't cope with his power and movement.
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I can see one saying to the other, "Where's Waldo?"
 
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Ian Moore Gone Little

Geoff Thomas
Otis Redding said:
It was a masterclass of passing football Norman, topped-off by a hatrick from their Brazilian international centre-forward, Waldo. I don't posses your memory for minute game detail, but I do clearly remember that Bobby McKinlay and Jim Iley simply couldn't cope with his power and movement.

We could play on the deck back then (Jeff Whitefoot, Calvin Palmer and Iley were lovely passers of the ball) but we just couldn't match Valencia's speed and precision.
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Despite beating us that night and on aggregate, Valencia and Waldo made a great impression on both Forest and the Nottingham public. They were invited back in 1965 to play a friendly to mark our centenary and I seem to recall reading that Waldo played (or at least started the game) despite carrying an injury, apparently because our fans were so keen to see him play again. We drew 1-1 and you can see the programme cover and a brief report if you got to thecityground.com, click on Opponents, scroll down and find Valencia under Spain towards the bottom.

(A pedant writes - and if you do that you’ll learn or be reminded that Waldo only scored 2 and it was Nunez who got the hat-trick.)

And of course we also played a friendly against them 3 seasons ago to mark the centenary of their ground.
 
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Cloughie1975

Stuart Pearce
Ian Moore Gone Little said:
Despite beating us that night and on aggregate, Valencia and Waldo made a great impression on both Forest and the Nottingham public. They were invited back in 1965 to play a friendly to mark our centenary and I seem to recall reading that Waldo played (or at least started the game) despite carrying an injury, apparently because our fans were so keen to see him play again. We drew 1-1 and you can see the programme cover and a brief report if you got to thecityground.com, click on Opponents, scroll down and find Valencia under Spain towards the bottom.

(A pedant writes - and if you do that you’ll learn or be reminded that Waldo only scored 2 and it was Nunez who got the hat-trick.)

And of course we also played a friendly against them 3 seasons ago to mark the centenary of their ground.
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We of course also played them in the European Super Cup in 1980.
 
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GaryCrosbysStepOver

Geoff Thomas
JonnoSnr said:
It's not been a good appointment but what I would say is Edu must have been working to some sort of brief from Marinakis, presumably to invest in young players that can evolve our style a bit more towards something more possession-based. Forget a signing like Lucca which was clearly done to appease Dyche.

I can't imagine he's been allowed to just do as he pleases and part of his remit was to produce some sort of blanket footballing philosophy across the network of clubs. That can't happen in 9 months.

So am I sad to see him go? Not at all but I certainly don't feel that now he's gone things will be fine suddenly. For that to happen Marinakis needs to firstly make an appointment based on merit not his own vanity. Secondly said appointment needs both time and minimal interference to actually do his job properly.

What we can't have is a bad month and then we start seeing rumours everyone from the manager to the team lady is on the verge of the sack.
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Yes totally agree

And even if the talent spotting was garbage, the cheques will presumably have been signed off at the top
 
Alf-engelos Mindminackers

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "w**ksy"
Cloughie1975 said:
True-I went to the away leg in Munich and felt Forest were slightly fortunate to only lose 2-1.

After a decent first 30 minutes in the return they put us in our place and showed the huge difference in class between them and Frank Clark’s fading side (who without Collymore and Bohinen looked distinctly ordinary).
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If we'd have had a proper striker at that time, though, and not sold Collymore, I think we'd have been a few goals ahead in that first 30 minutes, and I think we'd have done them. It's the Forest curse of not replacing good strikers properly lol.
 
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Cloughie1975

Stuart Pearce
Alf-engelos Mindminackers said:
If we'd have had a proper striker at that time, though, and not sold Collymore, I think we'd have been a few goals ahead in that first 30 minutes, and I think we'd have done them. It's the Forest curse of not replacing good strikers properly lol.
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I thought leaving the ground in Munich that we might have got a result with Collymore playing.

Virtually impossible to replace but poor recruitment f***ed us again.

Sound familiar? 🥲
 
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Berkshire Red

John Robertson
Alf-engelos Mindminackers said:
If we'd have had a proper striker at that time, though, and not sold Collymore, I think we'd have been a few goals ahead in that first 30 minutes, and I think we'd have done them. It's the Forest curse of not replacing good strikers properly lol.
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Replacing Collymore was nigh on impossible. Had he stayed we'd have had a chance of beating Bayern.

For me, we should have signed Chris Armstrong. He was the closest to Stan at the time IMHO.
 
sammy the snake

sammy the snake

John Robertson
Error made- acknowledged and will be corrected. Let the f***ing manager choose players. The vision is all well and good, but just get the basics right first, then some incremental improvements using credible agents.
 
TommyT

TommyT

Jack Burkitt
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