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Morgan Anthony Gibbs-White

Lincs_Red

First Team Squad
I think the worst thing about the MGW saga (besides this cursed thread) is that it is making us look a bit desperate and lacking a plan B. There's no wonder Wolves are trying to rinse us for every penny, and who can blame them? We are long past the point where we should have moved onto an alternative target.

He's not a proven Premier League player at the end of the day, he could just as easily become the next Rhian Brewster as he could be a success. There are other talented but equally unproven players out there in other leagues that might make the step up, are easier to acquire and far less risky financially. Time for the club to end its fixation with MGW.

How is it making us look desperate!? Forest’s pursuits of MGW is a news story, so it gets amplified. You’ve not a clue what’s going on behind the scenes and the clubs progress on other targets.

Only fixation I can observe is our fan’s obsession with running the clubs financial affairs.


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T-Red

A. Trialist
Norwegian papers now linking Berge with a move to Club Brugge for less than £20 million. I am a bit worried that our interest in MGW has prevented us from pursuing other more affordable targets.
 

Mr RayReardon

Jack Burkitt
Norwegian papers now linking Berge with a move to Club Brugge for less than £20 million. I am a bit worried that our interest in MGW has prevented us from pursuing other more affordable targets.
Be rest assured, Forest will have a report on Berge, they'll know his KPI and Cooper and the team will have a view on whether they want him, or not. A quick phone call to his agent and the the deal is live. Given how many players we have been linked with, I can't believe this has slipped through the net. I just don't think Cooper wants him.

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Mr RayReardon

Jack Burkitt
How is it making us look desperate!? Forest’s pursuits of MGW is a news story, so it gets amplified. You’ve not a clue what’s going on behind the scenes and the clubs progress on other targets.

Only fixation I can observe is our fan’s obsession with running the clubs financial affairs.


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It's not desperate, and each bid shows the love for MGW and unsettles him a bit more each time. The problem is the add ons. Forest need to up their original offer to £30-£35m if they want him. If those bids are rejected then quite simply he's staying put.

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Mr RayReardon

Jack Burkitt
I’m seeing a fixation in amplifying everything to be world ending, and a guarantor of immediate relegation, do not Pass Go and Do Not Collect £200.
Not that I would want this .. but after 23 years of waiting I'd take a yo-yo year or two to put a long term plan in place and build a squad that is more ready to compete than perhaps this one is without the loans

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Redemption

Seeking the business end 🔭
I'm told we've upped our offer.

We're going to make Gibbs White the first £1bn player.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
I'm told we've upped our offer.

We're going to make Gibbs White the first £1bn player.
No way to tell if that's a good deal or not as we're just fans and can't judge whether price of a transfer is too high or too low.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
At this point, „Big“ Evangelos should pull a Football Manager move, and just buy Wolves entirely, and release MGW on a „Free“ to Forest.
 

Harry1982

Grenville Morris
Wolves have just signed goncalo guedes who is essentially a winger/second striker seems like it may pave the way for us to sign gibbs white
 

eyupmeduck

Geoff Thomas
Guedes played us in the friendly, didn't he? We can't have been too impressed.
He looked decent but to be fair Wolves have a Portuguese base through connections with Mendes, he will be the 10th in the squad which is more than most Portugese teams have!

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Harry1982

Grenville Morris
I'm not so sure - their squad is pretty thin as well.

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It is pretty thin, how I see it wolves don't seem as much as a priority to the owner as they were earlier. There was talk of neves being sold earlier and ownership seems to swaying on them being self sufficient.
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
How is it making us look desperate!? Forest’s pursuits of MGW is a news story, so it gets amplified. You’ve not a clue what’s going on behind the scenes and the clubs progress on other targets.

Only fixation I can observe is our fan’s obsession with running the clubs financial affairs.


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Just my opinion mate, and I'm far from the only one (both within the Forest fanbase and outside of it) who sees it that way. Its clear that we are willing to pay far above market value for him, when other clubs (including Everton; a club that has given FFP the middle finger this summer) have walked away (and rightfully so).

And the financial side of things should be a concern; it's our club, and reckless spending can lead to huge problems down the line, particularly with FFP in the Championship if we go down. Some of us just simply don't think that a player with one decent season in the Championship under his belt is a player worth this kind of risk.
 

Lincs_Red

First Team Squad
Just my opinion mate, and I'm far from the only one (both within the Forest fanbase and outside of it) who sees it that way. Its clear that we are willing to pay far above market value for him, when other clubs (including Everton; a club that has given FFP the middle finger this summer) have walked away (and rightfully so).

And the financial side of things should be a concern; it's our club, and reckless spending can lead to huge problems down the line, particularly with FFP in the Championship if we go down. Some of us just simply don't think that a player with one decent season in the Championship under his belt is a player worth this kind of risk.

Appreciate the FFP angle. That said, Everton spent years throwing around huge fees and salaries on players coming toward the twilight of their career, James Rodrigues et al.

There is a massive risk with MGW, no doubt, but I think worth taking.


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Any Time Now

Grenville Morris
Some people seem to be working on the assumption that the add on bonuses are a pool of money that doesn't matter, in this situation its far more likely that the bonus clauses will benefit the selling club more than us so it's incredibly unlikely that it's tied to unrealistic things like 'top 6 finish = release x amount'

A lot of it will be based on things like appearances and it's more likely a large amount of the add ons will be triggered sooner rather than later. The only 'long term' clause I can see Wolves being prepared to sit on would be something like a sizable sell on clause

If he had less time on his contract it would be a different story, but as things stand Wolves are in a position to dictate negotiations. They've made it pretty clear that the only way anyone gets hold of him this window is by submitting a ridiculous package thats impossible for them
to turn down.

The lack of any other interest should say a lot, MGW is a great talent but there's still a line that has to be drawn. I don't think now is the right moment for us to be firing off on this type of move at >£40m regardless of how it's structured
 
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