Tom W
Grenville Morris
just interested to see who you would have next to mckenna in the middle
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Bridgfordred79
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interested?tomw94 said:
Well seeing as how the moose played on saturday we would want 3 in the middle like on saturday
where is the option for that ;D
Tom W
Grenville Morris
doneBroganator said:
incapable hulk
Best served cold
I'd forgotten all about perch. I honestly cant see where he can fit back into the side now. Hes not as good as any of the other midfielders, and I know BD said he saw him as a defender, but surely he cant displace any of gunter/wes/chambers?
And I dont think he can play on the left can he?
And I dont think he can play on the left can he?
kezz
Viv Anderson
Oh the glories of having multiple talented options. I'm not disheartened by whoever starts in that role. I( think there will be games when it'd be best to slip Perch in there, just as it would Mcgugan, Raddy, Cohen or Moussi.
For the sake of polls, I'll say Moussi, as his atheltisism and technique suggest he is a good alrounder. Though I've said the same for Cohen in the past.
The fact is, we have a manager that has the intellect and does his homework to usually know the best way to go for each individual game.
For the sake of polls, I'll say Moussi, as his atheltisism and technique suggest he is a good alrounder. Though I've said the same for Cohen in the past.
The fact is, we have a manager that has the intellect and does his homework to usually know the best way to go for each individual game.
goatboy
Grenville Morris
All the obvious choices for any position will, over the course of a season, enjoy dips in for and long or short-term injuries. Perch should get his chance at right back of not the current midfield. As will Cohen up the middle and maybe on the left again. Point is when your Andos and Tysons are taking knocks, we have skilled cover. As far as Perchinho goes I'm feeling better about just having him on the bench, we'll be bloody glad of him at some point over someone hurried out of the reserves.
dbarraclough
Viv Anderson
I remember a few weeks ago there was a long thread debating how shite the moose is. I didnt want to comment because I hadn't seen enough of him. Heard good reports following his debut. Then he was injured and seemed to have a few bad comeback appearances. There is no question the guy can get stuck in and play the simple stuff. For about 20 minutes he reminded me of a more physical Viera...Now that would be something
mr happy said:
Not Perch , thanks. Moussi worked well with McKenna yesterday because he has the ability to make space for himself and is intelligent in his forward play - something Perch cannot do. Perch is a headless chicken who can't pass to save his life.
You can see Moussi's potential - he got good balance , quick feet , the ability to make space (though he got caught out once or twice in possession) and is actually rather intelligent in his play. He doesn't always showed it though and have a bit of positoning naviety at times but when he's good , he's really good and when he's bad , he's a mess , all hands and legs and looked clusmy.
Jonathan
Resident foodie!
I really liked yesterday's formation and felt that it gave Majewski, Tyson and Anderson, who are all very attack-minded players, the ability to roam and do what they wanted to do while still remaining tight in order to crowd out Newcastle's Premiership quality players.
If we can use it to our benefit against a team like Newcastle, then it's definitely a winning formula.
If we can use it to our benefit against a team like Newcastle, then it's definitely a winning formula.
It's Baggio
John Robertson
I'd rather put Perch at left back and move Cohen into midfield than play Perch in midfield again.
From what i have seen of Cohen in recent weeks , he is getting better and more comfortable at left back and he actually doesn't wander so much all over the place like he had done in the past , he stuck to his position well.
Wouldn't be surprised if he does retain the left back for the forseeable future while ND and his panel are not in a hurry to buy a left back (that no.3 shirt number is still waiting for someone to claim it).
Wouldn't be surprised if he does retain the left back for the forseeable future while ND and his panel are not in a hurry to buy a left back (that no.3 shirt number is still waiting for someone to claim it).
marshal99 said:
I think you underestimate Perch's contribution, he's more dynamic than Moussi and a better tackler. His passing can sometimes be a bit dodgy but so can Moussi's. Against Blackpool his ball retention was awfull (costing us a goal).
I agree with you about Moussi's potential being more exciting, but so far I have only seen it demonstrated in 2 games. One being last night, the other being his debut against reading. Perch on the other hand has been a usefull player for breaking up the oppositions play on many occaisions.
On yesterdays form you'd have to say Moussi gets the nod, seeing as Perch is some way off of fitness yet its a bit of a moot point. But there will be games this season when Perch will be a better candidate for the role.
I like this 4-5-1-that-can-become-4-3-3-when-it-needs-to-formation.
But I think Billy will pick a team - and a formation - for each game, to suit, or counter, whomever we're playing.
But I think Billy will pick a team - and a formation - for each game, to suit, or counter, whomever we're playing.
Perch is a good tackler , i don't deny that but he IS a headless chicken who doesn't really know how to hold his position that well since he always likes to drift back to hold hands with Morgan in the center of defence :wink: as demonstrated last season when he was almost like playing as a third defender while playing in midfield and left a big gap in the middle. It was just dreadful watching the way we conceed midfield posession from the get go.
Another thing , Perch ball retention is zeroooo , he doesn't know how to , Mckenna this season has shown how ball retention can be done even if it has to be a backpass or just making sideway passes to keep the ball. Clingan has that abilty to do so as well although some fans dislike him. Perch on the other hand , doesn't have a clue how to do that , he would treat the ball like a hot potatoe and just kick it anywhere if an opposition player comes within 5 feet of him.
Another thing , Perch ball retention is zeroooo , he doesn't know how to , Mckenna this season has shown how ball retention can be done even if it has to be a backpass or just making sideway passes to keep the ball. Clingan has that abilty to do so as well although some fans dislike him. Perch on the other hand , doesn't have a clue how to do that , he would treat the ball like a hot potatoe and just kick it anywhere if an opposition player comes within 5 feet of him.
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Bridgfordred79
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another well thought out and constructed argument sir.sedgred said:
Tommy1drop
First Team Squad
Jonathan said:
Totally agree :tophat:
Jelly Bean
Youth Team
Perch shouldn't even be considered, he's not in the same league as the other midfielders
IMHO - neither Majewski nor the Moose can last the 90 minutes. Both went off the boil against a difficult Newcastle side. To be fair, McKenna also ran out of steam - shows what a huge effort our team made on Saturday. Proud of them. To answer the question ...... rotate according to opposition (although that wouldn't help Majewski or Moussi's match fitness).
adam09
Bob McKinlay
I agree, it depends who we're playing. Against Nolan and Smith, Moussi was perfect for that physical battle.
Against someone shite like Robbie Savage, let the likes of Majewski and McGugan outclass them.
Against someone shite like Robbie Savage, let the likes of Majewski and McGugan outclass them.
fsor12
First Team Squad
mr happy said:
Sorry mate but your either a good friend of Perch or around his age group, there is know way in a million years should he ever be aloud back in this forest side especially in midfield. I know it's my personal opinion but in my eyes he is without doubt one of the worst players i have seen who for what ever reason conmands a place in this side, how he does it i'll never no but i pray to god he never gets backs in.
Rant over
fsor12 said:
Thats your view and you are of course entitled to it, for the record I don't know the guy but i'm about his age.
My personal oppinion is that Perch offers us something different to our other midfielders, and thats someone who will get up in the oppositions face, is full of running, is strong in the tackle, and can chip in with the odd goal. His passing isn't the best, but is no where near as bad as some on here make out.
I'm not saying he should be a regular starter, or that he is one of our best midfielders. But he is a usefull player to have for a certain type of game, There will be times this season particuarly away from home where we will want to shut the opposition down and disrupt the flow of play. Perch is a good player for putting the pressure on teams and winning the ball back from teams trying to play possesion football against us.
As I've said in other threads the fact that 3 managers now have seen fit to make him a key part of the team tells me that the people who know how to win games of football know just how valuable his contribution is.
No disrespect to your oppinion, at the end of the day neither of us are football managers and our oppinions are amateurish to say the least. I just think that he does a good job, less glamourous, but just as important in certain matches. I recon BD sees his value to the team but i suppose the acid test will be when he gets back to full fitness
adam09
Bob McKinlay
If Perch is one of the worst players you've ever seen you can't have watched much football. I could name a tonne of worser players just going through Forest teams from recent years...