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Matz Willy Els Sels

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Timothy Pope

I know that Nuno that I know that Nuno that I know
Don’t get the clamour for Kelleher. He’s no better than Sels and also has mistakes in him
 
Red Ray's Redlist

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Viv Anderson
Raymondo Ponte' said:
Shudda bin a yard further to his left so he had vision of the ball (he saves then imo), If the player dips it over the wall into the other corner (very skilful and immensely more difficult to achieve)) then ya tek ya hat off to him.

I cudda scored that free kick, it was yawning.
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The issue was definitely the line of sight to the ball. People moaning that he didn't dive need to relook at what happens. Just as Welbeck shoots he leans to his right to look through the gap between wall and and the two Brighton players and one of ours I think. Means he can't transfer his weight back across to the left which is why he doesn't move. That's unfortunate timing because there's no way Welbeck knew this.

But Sels should have been screaming at his defense to open up the gap so he could have a better view. He just seemed to accept it which was disappointing.
 
Monkman

Monkman

Jack Burkitt
He'd be their number 3 if Courtois hadn't withdrawn himself.

He's a good keeper but no more. He's just not that agile - there will be shots that he physically can't reach that a more agile keeper like Kelleher or Ramsdale would. Of course that's just one aspect of goalkeeping (though probably the most important). I'd say he's less erratic for example than say Ramsdale.
 
Monkman

Monkman

Jack Burkitt
Red Ray's Redlist said:
The issue was definitely the line of sight to the ball. People moaning that he didn't dive need to relook at what happens. Just as Welbeck shoots he leans to his right to look through the gap between wall and and the two Brighton players and one of ours I think. Means he can't transfer his weight back across to the left which is why he doesn't move. That's unfortunate timing because there's no way Welbeck knew this.

But Sels should have been screaming at his defense to open up the gap so he could have a better view. He just seemed to accept it which was disappointing.
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He just needs to stand a yard to his left so he has a clear view of the ball, and less distance to the far post to cover. He has to rely on his wall stopping the ball going in at the near post (to his right) - Welbeck isn't exactly a FK specialist, highly unlikely he gets it up and down into that corner. No bad luck involved imo.
 
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Viv Anderson
I agree he needed to improve his line of sight and stepping to the left might have helped, though there is a reason he leans right and not left to see. But he needs to get his defenders fighting to open up a gap for him to see the ball, not put himself in a position where he can't react.

It is unlucky that Welbeck shoots at exactly the moment he leans right, but if you make your own luck that probably applies to good and bad.
 
Bonalair

Bonalair

John Robertson
It’s a split wall. I think MGW should be covering where the shot goes but he’s nowhere near far enough over. Not sure if he moves because of the 2 Brighton players bouncing around or if he’s positioned wrongly originally. Still Sels fault probably but it’s training ground stuff. Easily sorted.
 
Monkman

Monkman

Jack Burkitt
Red Ray's Redlist said:
I agree he needed to improve his line of sight and stepping to the left might have helped, though there is a reason he leans right and not left to see. But he needs to get his defenders fighting to open up a gap for him to see the ball, not put himself in a position where he can't react.

It is unlucky that Welbeck shoots at exactly the moment he leans right, but if you make your own luck that probably applies to good and bad.
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But there's no luck involved or needed if he's standing in the correct position, covering the left half of the goal and relying on the wall to cover the right half.
 
valspoodle

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
I thought the analysis on MOTD2 was quite clear. The way the wall was set up, the half of the goal to the right of Sels had the wall protection and the other half was the goalies responsibility. So the keeper was simply in the wrong place when the kick was taken.
 
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Monkman said:
But there's no luck involved or needed if he's standing in the correct position, covering the left half of the goal and relying on the wall to cover the right half.
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I think you're missing the point I'm trying to make.
I agree Sels was at fault, but it wasn't because he was worried about covering the right half of the goal. If you look at the footage he leans to the right to look through a gap between wall and nearest player to the wall just at the moment Welbeck shoots. If he'd done this a split second earlier he could've shifted his weight back.
The fault is not giving himself a clear line of sight to the ball so he could remain balanced. Maybe not a wall issue but he should've been directing his defence to open a gap for him to see.
 
valspoodle

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
I would have thought that if Sels is covering the left part of the goal (his left) he would lean to the left to see the ball, not the right, which, as stated, appears to unbalance him.
 
MASE

MASE

Up-Front
I dont get his propensity to kick long unconditionally when we havent won a single second ball for 5 games.
 
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Viv Anderson
valspoodle said:
I would have thought that if Sels is covering the left part of the goal (his left) he would lean to the left to see the ball, not the right, which, as stated, appears to unbalance him.
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Brighton very cleverly created their own wall to block that option off. There was a small window to the left of the wall that he could see through but he had to lean to his right to use it from where he was stood covering the left side of the goal.
 
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Larry Lansbury

Viv Anderson
MASE said:
I dont get his propensity to kick long unconditionally when we havent won a single second ball for 5 games.
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This must be tactical-it’s something that to me makes us look a bit league 1-especially at home. I am not saying play from the back like Russell Martin teams which at a times is suicide in this league but surely we have the players and coach to be able to pass and get beyond a press at times. Even if it’s movement where a winger drops a little deeper so keeper can ping ball out wide. Fully appreciate that at times it has to go long, but we need a bit variation. At home when we are trying build momentum to get a goal, a long boot up field kills it and plays into hands of opposing centre backs.
 
Strummer

Strummer

I Fought The Law
LTLF Minion
This fella.

Sensational today. Four - at least - superb saves to keep the cockney wankers out.
 
Alf-engelos Mindminackers

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Hero today. Made a huge difference for us.

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