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Majewski should be getting into double figures for goals

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matt1982

Jack Burkitt
At this level in the championship, an attacking International midfielder like Raddy should be getting into double figures at least for goals, this season ( a la Sigurdsson for Reading, although he has now left). We have needed a midfielder to get into double figures for a while now, well I think Majewski himself, and Billy, should be setting him this attainable (not unrealistic) target, for a player of his ability and stature.

It was his first season last year, he produced some great performances and chipped in with 3/4 goals, but I think he in particular needs to be looking to get more among the goals this year.
 
That would depend very much on where he plays though.

Sigurdsson played as a False 9, so had enough space and time to scored plenty of goals.

Majewski has - recently at least - been deplyed in a 4-4-2, leaving him far deeper.

I think he needs to show a little more calmness with his shooting, as he seems keener to smash the skin off the ball rather than place it.
 
I agree. I can't see him ever being a prolific goal machine but last season and glimpses this season he's been the man to produce the killer pass to put Earnie through in the box. I still think our best prospect for a goal scoring midfielder was Boyd. Yes he was slow. But with the pace of Bertrand overlapping could have caused havoc.
 
Tutts said:
That would depend very much on where he plays though.

Sigurdsson played as a False 9, so had enough space and time to scored plenty of goals.

Majewski has - recently at least - been deplyed in a 4-4-2, leaving him far deeper.

I think he needs to show a little more calmness with his shooting, as he seems keener to smash the skin off the ball rather than place it.
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I'm not quite sure what a false 9 is, but as far as I ever saw for Reading he either played in a 4-3-3 with him being the attacking player of the central 3 or in a 4-4-2.

In either formation Raddy should be able to get goals (another example being Dorrans at West Brom or Ambrose, and they normally played 4-4-2 or 4-5-1.

I actually think increasingly 4-3-3 is the way forward in football, it is the formation most international and top premier league teams now operate, and of course the one Blackpool adopted that dumped us out last season. It allows you to dominate more of the possession and hence more of the game in midfield, and gives you a great goal threat going forward from all areas, as well as stability at the back. Playing this formation I believe would allow a player like Majewski to flourish, as he often gets a bit over-run in just a central two, but having two other players in there with him, like Moussi, McKenna or Cohen, would allow him to get forward more and score more. I think you need to build a team around him.

Of course our best performance last year came with this formation last year away at WB, when we had a natural left back. We now have another one, so this may be a way forward, as it would also help McKenna's aging legs, having two others in there with him. Front three of Blackstock, Earnshaw and Anderson interchanging.
 
that goal against west brom is one of the best goals i have ever seen.

I reckon majewski should get more than he does, but hes practically the only player in the midfield who goes forward with any kind of quality. If you watch earnie and dex, they continuously come very deep to try and get the ball which is where majewski already is as theres no real quality on either flank to go forward sadly.
 
Cohen's goal was very good but Raddys goal was something you don't see every week
 
The finish wasn't, but the move preceding was. Raddy's technique for his goal was unreal.
 
The build up to Cohen's goal said to me "Forest are back." That move could have graced any game in the world and would have had anyone watching creaming themselves. It was equal to anything Arsenal did last season.

Raddy's was technically superb yes, but you get wonder technique goals happening across the divisions. A knife through butter passing move leading to a goal is lovely to watch, proper football.
 
the lead up to Raddys goal was good as well, ahhh f**k it the whole f**king game from start to finish was f**king sublime!
 
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There doesn't seem to be any inbetween with Raddy's shooting. He either plants an absolute peach into the net or he spanners it awfully. With McKenna's lack of form he seems to be dropping further back, searching for the ball, making him far less effective. If McKenna (or whoever plays in the deeper role) can start getting a grip of games then Raddy can play further forward. Or we can line up in the 4-2-3-1 we played at times last year, where Raddy would naturally play much higher up the pitch but we don't have the wide men, IMO.


Tutts said:
Sigurdsson played as a False 9, so had enough space and time to scored plenty of goals.
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Not really, he's generally played as the second forward, in the hole behind Long or someone else. A 'false 9' would be the main forward but one that roams about and drops in. In Wilson talk, Sigurdsson would've been a '10'.
 
forestman said:
your sure right about that.

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Yes, I'm right. As that little video shows, in open play he tends to hit the ball as hard as possible.

From free kicks he takes his time a bit more and tends to try and place it.

Obviously, there's not too many youtube complilations of Raddy's shots being hammered into the upper Bridgford end.

It's Baggio said:
There doesn't seem to be any inbetween with Raddy's shooting. He either plants an absolute peach into the net or he spanners it awfully. With McKenna's lack of form he seems to be dropping further back, searching for the ball, making him far less effective. If McKenna (or whoever plays in the deeper role) can start getting a grip of games then Raddy can play further forward. Or we can line up in the 4-2-3-1 we played at times last year, where Raddy would naturally play much higher up the pitch but we don't have the wide men, IMO.




Not really, he's generally played as the second forward, in the hole behind Long or someone else. A 'false 9' would be the main forward but one that roams about and drops in. In Wilson talk, Sigurdsson would've been a '10'.
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Certainly in the last game I saw him, when they hammered Peterborough, he started as alongside Sean Long in attack, with licence to then drop back as he felt.

I normally associate a Wilson '10' being a playmaker behind a front 2 or 3 but it's open to discussion.
 
Doesn't forestman say "your sure right about that"? Ie. Agreeing with you :p

Spanner.
 
Winnits said:
Doesn't forestman say "your sure right about that"? Ie. Agreeing with you :p

Spanner.
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lol I thought that, as the goals Raddy has scored have all been where he smashes the ball.

I'd rather have 8 goals off Raddy than only 4, even if all 4 of those were put on our highlight reel for the season.
 
I scored over ten in my 5 a side today, so Raddy should be able too...no problem.
 
All the attacking midfielders need to score more... I think Ando, Raddy and Cohen got about 10 between them last season! Which is pretty poor considering e amount of games they played, and when compared to the midfield of teams around us.
 
Doesn't matter who scores them, as long as someone does. Our problem at the moment is we don't look like scoring but we do look like shipping three a game.
 
It would be nice to score more than once in a game. Against Norwich, despite all my false optimism I just knew once we scored it would finish 1-0 or 1-1. This has to change..Sharpish
 
I take other posters points about there being 'no inbetween' but feel he needs to address this, and that other players also need to score, but normally there is one player that gets most of the goals from midfield at this level, and I feel it should be him, given the glowing reputation he has come with (once being courted by blackburn), and the money we paid for him in the end £1m (more than Charlie Adam for example at 500k and Dorrans I think), international player etc. Defences at this level are nothing like Premier League defences, and I think he can and should be our Adam/Dorrans/Nolan/Sigurdsson/Ambrose.
 
4-3-3 is the most demanding formation for any team to play. And I don't think we have the right players to make it work. Earnshaw is our best striker, but he needs someone like Dexter in the middle with him. 4-3-3 only works with natural wingers and a midfield that has the ability to work collectively over the pitch for 90 minutes. McKenna and Cohen would work, but another midfielder would be required... Raddy wouldn't fit into that formation... And we have no one, other than Ando that could do that job out wide, so Forest has a squad built for 4-4-2, 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1...
 
JtheNorwegianRed said:
4-3-3 is the most demanding formation for any team to play. And I don't think we have the right players to make it work. Earnshaw is our best striker, but he needs someone like Dexter in the middle with him. 4-3-3 only works with natural wingers and a midfield that has the ability to work collectively over the pitch for 90 minutes. McKenna and Cohen would work, but another midfielder would be required... Raddy wouldn't fit into that formation... And we have no one, other than Ando that could do that job out wide, so Forest has a squad built for 4-4-2, 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1...
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This isn't backed up by the evidence. Blackpool, for example, played and play with 3 up front, and normally a combination of Ormerod and Taylor-Fletcher out wide (at least last season), with someone like DJ Campbell or Harewood in the middle. No-one would say Ormerod and Taylor-Fletcher are wide men (a la Anderson), in fact more like old-fashioned centre forwards,Ormerod at least, but the point is they interchange and there are no real fixed positions with 4-3-3, that's why it's a great formation and they made it work. 4-4-2 becomes too predictable and stilted. Germany at the world cup also played with Muller and Podolski in the wider positions of the front 3, and they again are what you would call natural central strikers, but interchange with each other in that formation. It's a far more dangerous, deadly formation than 4-4-2, and gives you great control and power in the centre of the park too. It is the way forward and there's no reason Forest don't have the players to make it work, especially if they could add another quality forward/wide player
 
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