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John McGodvern

John McGovern was often disparaged as a journeyman, but man did he go on a journey with Brian Clough. He is sometimes described as a water-carrier, but somebody had to carry the water so that Clough could walk on it. Clough bought McGovern at three of his five clubs, inherited him at a fourth (Hartlepools) and tried to buy him for the other (Brighton). McGovern was Clough's idea of what a young man should be like: polite, neat-looking (although only after Clough ordered a terrified 15-year-old McGovern to get his flowing locks cut at their first meeting and, crucially, vice-free.


Clough became a father figure, albeit with a twist. "My dad died when I was 11," said McGovern, "and in some ways he was the only male person I could get advice from - although I didn't ask advice, it was kind of thrown at me." Clough made McGovern the youngest man to play in all four divisions at just 19, and he would captain Nottingham Forest to the title and two European Cups. Yet on the pitch, as he shambled around the centre of midfield, McGovern could look terribly awkward and cherubic; when he arrived for his first day at Derby on a pushbike, the great Dave Mackay said he thought McGovern was a "bold adolescent autograph-hunter". But Clough (or rather Peter Taylor, who persuaded an originally sceptical Clough) spotted that McGovern had something so few people in the English game now, never mind then, are aware of the importance of: moral courage, and in industrial quantities.


"He couldn't run and often looked ungainly," said Clough. "But he would always stand up straight, he always strived to get and to pass the ball, and he would do that whether the team was losing 3-0 on a filthy night at Walsall or winning 4-0 on a sunny afternoon at Wembley." McGovern became Clough's consigliere, the on-field manager who calmly dealt with trouble and kept his nerve when others were flagging. He was a playbreaker and a playmaker, the sort of unobtrusive type whose value has only become truly apparent in modern times. Scotland had some very good midfielders around that time, yet it is still a travesty that McGovern did not play even one game. And when he says "I would have walked to Scotland for a single cap", it is not just an inane platitude.


He wasn't helped by a farcical incident involving the Scotland manager Ally MacLeod in 1977-78. When Forest stuffed Manchester United 4-0 at Old Trafford in their Championship season, MacLeod announced excitably that all Forest's Scottish players would be in his squad for the following summer's World Cup. A photographer, sensing an opportunity for some coin, got the four - McGovern, John Robertson, Archie Gemmill and Kenny Burns - to dress up in kilts. When the squad was announced there was no McGovern; it transpired MacLeod had no idea he was Scottish. "Takes some believing, eh?" says McGovern. Then again, so does the story of the quiet lad who formed such a bond with Brian Clough. In the good times and bad, McGovern's was unbelievable tale.


...from History's Greatest Uncapped Playaz.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/sep/24/joy-of-six-uncapped-players
 
John McGovern was the most under-rated player in the "great" European Cup winning sides.

He was one of those that you only really noticed how much he did when he wasn't there. And he's a genuinely nice bloke too!
 
John McGovern is a genuinely likeable and modest bloke. He introduced himself to me and a couple of friends in the Munich suite or whatever. I had to tell him that it wasn't necessary 'cos I'd watched him lift the European Cup twice. He then sat with us for about 45 mins answering every damn fool question we threw at him. BTW - he rated Shilts as the best 'trainer' he's ever known and said he spent ages after training with youth team players practicing one on ones (which explained why Shilts was so formidable when our defence went AWOL.
 
I'm disappointed that the spelling police hasn't arrested the thread starter for crimes against John McGovern. :D
 
I did consider that, but he's hardly godlike! John McGoodbloke would've been better. lol
 
Well it's unlikely to hit the D key accidently when hitting either O or V so clearly the author feels he is :)
 
With that in mind, I'm looking forward to seeing John Robertsgod again in November. :D
 
McGovern is part of the Clough/Taylor enigma. What did they see that nobody else could?
 
But surely, the thread should be titled "Theformerredscaptain John McGodvern"?
 
Five foot eight , under weight,
John McGovern's simply great
la la la la la lalaaa

Covered for kenny and Larry many times when they went up field and feared no one!
 
I never saw him play, but the fact that Clough signed him at so many clubs and the amount of games and trophies Forest won with him skippering the side tells you all you need to know about how good he was.

He's not bad on t'radio too.
 
John McGovern was the most under-rated player in the "great" European Cup winning sides.

He was one of those that you only really noticed how much he did when he wasn't there. And he's a genuinely nice bloke too!


Well spoken, McGovern is one of my all time favourite Forest players.
 
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