João Pedro Ferreira „Jota“ Silva ("Portugrealish")

[Listen 'ere young man]

5 GA over 840 mins equates to 20 over 38 matches. I would definitely give him another chance.

 

[robboisagenius]

5 GA over 840 mins equates to 20 over 38 matches. I would definitely give him another chance.

He couldn’t get regular game time at Besiktas

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

He couldn’t get regular game time at Besiktas

I don't care what he did elsewhere, I am basing my opinion on what he did in our league.

 

[JonnoSnr]

Or is it a case of the grass isn’t always greener, and maybe a note for those that apparently think we need a massive overhaul…

Jota was okay for us, he impacted a lot of games from the bench, plenty of times that should be deemed good enough.

'Okay for us' isn't enough of a reason to bring him back really for me. A big area for improvement for us this summer is creativity in the final third, particularly from wide and I just don't think Jota's blood and thunder approach (when he's not rolling around the floor) is the way to go.

Perhaps as a squad member, maybe. But I'd like to think we could do better.

 

[Rzar]

'Okay for us' isn't enough of a reason to bring him back really for me. A big area for improvement for us this summer is creativity in the final third, particularly from wide and I just don't think Jota's blood and thunder approach (when he's not rolling around the floor) is the way to go.

Perhaps as a squad member, maybe. But I'd like to think we could do better.

I’m not saying we should bring him back, I don’t think we should

I am just making a point that it’s easy to discard squad players that play a small part in our season & think we can do better. The reality sometimes is a supporting role is an important role to play - Jota did that very well here when called upon.

I look at Morato, Yates & T this season doing similar things, we may think we can get better all the time but the roles are important ones to the overall squad.

 

[Strummer]

Might as well have bought Isak.

He has a Wicked Game.

 

[Bing Crosby's Head]

He has a Wicked Game.

Chelsea want him for his Blue Hotel

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

I think we're beyond Jota Silva now.

He was a good backup in our decent season under Nuno, he should have been retained as 4th choice last season rather than us spending all the money we did on players who have contributed even less. Even if he only played in Europe and the domestic cups that would have been fine as the quality of opposition we faced was largely poor.

But this season, without Europe, we need to trim the squad and focus on quality rather than quantity. I'm not dead set against him being 4th choice, but for that to happen I'd want us to shift all three of the wingers we signed last year and bring in two new ones who would walk straight into the starting eleven, leaving CHO as the immediate backup and Silva then as the emergency backup.

If we can't shift all three of our recent wingers then there's no space for Silva.

 

[GaryCrosbysStepOver]

I’d keep him. Good off the bench. Quite disruptive and quite a good finisher.

 

[Bing Crosby's Head]

I'd have thought it's odds on he goes back to Portugal. It was only a paperwork mix up that prevented it last summer.

 

[JonnoSnr]

I think we're beyond Jota Silva now.

He was a good backup in our decent season under Nuno, he should have been retained as 4th choice last season rather than us spending all the money we did on players who have contributed even less. Even if he only played in Europe and the domestic cups that would have been fine as the quality of opposition we faced was largely poor.

But this season, without Europe, we need to trim the squad and focus on quality rather than quantity. I'm not dead set against him being 4th choice, but for that to happen I'd want us to shift all three of the wingers we signed last year and bring in two new ones who would walk straight into the starting eleven, leaving CHO as the immediate backup and Silva then as the emergency backup.

If we can't shift all three of our recent wingers then there's no space for Silva.

Absolutely, I think I'll go mad if I see us linked to players followed by 'good squad option' and 'good back up for X' posts.

We're up to our ears in 'squad players' now. Time to start recruiting to improve the team.

 

[Notcher]

I do wonder whether we'll even go with wingers next season. VP might be looking at switching the system around this year. 4 wingers is a lot to carry and we've got some that aren't performing and some that are constantly injured.

Pre-season will be intriguing to see what VP is potentially looking at.

 

[DizzyBala]

Give him pre-season. If he comes back and looks up for it, might be worth a look. He's capable of adding a bit of extra bite in the second half of games.

 

[kenred64]

I remember seeing him v Newcastle in the League cup two years ago. He nearly broke the net in the TE with our equaliser and I was impressed with his energy and all round game. He’s worth looking at again in pre-season I think.

 

[Rzar]

Absolutely, I think I'll go mad if I see us linked to players followed by 'good squad option' and 'good back up for X' posts.

We're up to our ears in 'squad players' now. Time to start recruiting to improve the team.

That’s the natural progression, it’s not easy to sign players to start immediately when they are trying to replace an incredibly strong first XI. You’ll be going mad this summer I presume.

 

[sammy the snake]

Most including me love playing football manager lol, point is that we don’t know impact re FFP do we? Jota Silva has proven very useful as a squad player, and capable of not game changing. Regardless, his attitude is spot on and gives everything on the pitch which is exactly the right character for the squad

 

[JonnoSnr]

That’s the natural progression, it’s not easy to sign players to start immediately when they are trying to replace an incredibly strong first XI. You’ll be going mad this summer I presume.

Well if we want to show some progression then we need to sign better players at some point. It's not an easy thing to do, it's not a cheap thing to do but it's necessary if we want to move forward. We'll have plenty of money to throw at it when Anderson goes and I'd rather drop the Anderson money on 2 quality players than 6 more 'squad players' making up the numbers. We're not in Europe next season so we don't need all the extra mediocrity.

If/when Anderson goes then that's one first teamer. Then arguably two wingers, a full back and maybe even a striker and keeper. All of those positions in our 'first team' are up for grabs in my opinion.

Assuming they're still here the only absolutely nailed on players for next season should be Williams, Milenkovic, Murillo, Sangare and Gibbs-White. The rest are either unproven, aging or unreliable with fitness.

Quality over quantity has to be the way this summer.

 

[Ripple]

Well if we want to show some progression then we need to sign better players at some point. It's not an easy thing to do, it's not a cheap thing to do but it's necessary if we want to move forward. We'll have plenty of money to throw at it when Anderson goes and I'd rather drop the Anderson money on 2 quality players than 6 more 'squad players' making up the numbers. We're not in Europe next season so we don't need all the extra mediocrity.

If/when Anderson goes then that's one first teamer. Then arguably two wingers, a full back and maybe even a striker and keeper. All of those positions in our 'first team' are up for grabs in my opinion.

Assuming they're still here the only absolutely nailed on players for next season should be Williams, Milenkovic, Murillo, Sangare and Gibbs-White. The rest are either unproven, aging or unreliable with fitness.

Quality over quantity has to be the way this summer.

You have said we don't need 6 more fringe players and then gone on to ask for 6 more players?

I honestly don't think all these extra players are really needed. We have a large squad already that is perfectly good enough to challenge for Europe. Just replace outgoings if necessary and keep the squad the same as it has been when we have been playing brilliantly and getting tremendous results. It ain't broke. Don't fix it.

I wonder if it is the Football Manager type games that create this kind of thinking?

 

[Monkman]

But this season, without Europe, we need to trim the squad and focus on quality rather than quantity. I'm not dead set against him being 4th choice, but for that to happen I'd want us to shift all three of the wingers we signed last year and bring in two new ones who would walk straight into the starting eleven, leaving CHO as the immediate backup and Silva then as the emergency backup.

Can't quite make sense of this logic, think you might be overcomplicating it. I'd be ok with Jota replacing Ndoye as our 4th choice winger and keeping the rest, as that would for sure mean a net profit. CHO will contribute again and Bakwa and Hutchinson have potential. No guarantee that a flashy new expensive winger would contribute more in their first season.

 

[Monkman]

Well if we want to show some progression then we need to sign better players at some point. It's not an easy thing to do, it's not a cheap thing to do but it's necessary if we want to move forward. We'll have plenty of money to throw at it when Anderson goes and I'd rather drop the Anderson money on 2 quality players than 6 more 'squad players' making up the numbers. We're not in Europe next season so we don't need all the extra mediocrity.

If/when Anderson goes then that's one first teamer. Then arguably two wingers, a full back and maybe even a striker and keeper. All of those positions in our 'first team' are up for grabs in my opinion.

Assuming they're still here the only absolutely nailed on players for next season should be Williams, Milenkovic, Murillo, Sangare and Gibbs-White. The rest are either unproven, aging or unreliable with fitness.

Quality over quantity has to be the way this summer.

All this assumes that footballers are fixed entities with a set of statistics that are set in stone forever. I would expect at least one or two of last season's new signings to improve in their second season.

 

[JonnoSnr]

All this assumes that footballers are fixed entities with a set of statistics that are set in stone forever. I would expect at least one or two of last season's new signings to improve in their second season.

I'd like to think so but it's no guarantee. With the Anderson money we should be targeting proven quality or as close to it as possible. Not development players like Bakwa or McAtee.

 

[JonnoSnr]

You have said we don't need 6 more fringe players and then gone on to ask for 6 more players?

I honestly don't think all these extra players are really needed. We have a large squad already that is perfectly good enough to challenge for Europe. Just replace outgoings if necessary and keep the squad the same as it has been when we have been playing brilliantly and getting tremendous results. It ain't broke. Don't fix it.

I wonder if it is the Football Manager type games that create this kind of thinking?

I think the team is good enough, assuming (big assumption) they all stay fit. But the squad isn't.

By bringing in some proven quality in some of our less guaranteed positions, we make the squad stronger by definition as those players currently in become the squad players. Rather than actively looking to recruit players we know will be sub at best no matter what.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Can't quite make sense of this logic, think you might be overcomplicating it. I'd be ok with Jota replacing Ndoye as our 4th choice winger and keeping the rest, as that would for sure mean a net profit. CHO will contribute again and Bakwa and Hutchinson have potential. No guarantee that a flashy new expensive winger would contribute more in their first season.

You have made sense of it you just didn't want to believe I don't rate our wingers .

Ideally I would bounce all three of the summer signings but I admit that's not realistic. If we can't bounce all three then one of our £30m wingers is going to end up competing for 4th spot with Jota and we've just got to try and make the £30m player work in that scenario.

 

[Rzar]

Well if we want to show some progression then we need to sign better players at some point. It's not an easy thing to do, it's not a cheap thing to do but it's necessary if we want to move forward. We'll have plenty of money to throw at it when Anderson goes and I'd rather drop the Anderson money on 2 quality players than 6 more 'squad players' making up the numbers. We're not in Europe next season so we don't need all the extra mediocrity.

If/when Anderson goes then that's one first teamer. Then arguably two wingers, a full back and maybe even a striker and keeper. All of those positions in our 'first team' are up for grabs in my opinion.

Assuming they're still here the only absolutely nailed on players for next season should be Williams, Milenkovic, Murillo, Sangare and Gibbs-White. The rest are either unproven, aging or unreliable with fitness.

Quality over quantity has to be the way this summer.

The progression comes from signing players that will challenge long term & gradually become in our best XI. You are not signing squad players for them to be permanently second fiddle, half the names you mentioned were signed in those circumstances.

 

[JonnoSnr]

The progression comes from signing players that will challenge long term & gradually become in our best XI. You are not signing squad players for them to be permanently second fiddle, half the names you mentioned were signed in those circumstances.

Why can't they challenge now? Why are our first team so untouchable?

It's not about money either as we'll have a big pot of City money to spend this summer. With our finances and lack of Thursday night games there's absolutely no reason why we need to once again pay top money for purely potential only.

Do that again and we're running the risk of being a couple of injuries away from being in another relegation battle.