Jean-Phillipe Mateta

He`s a big time charlie and obviously a trouble maker, even if we were to go in for him, I honestly cannot see him wanting to come to us, he`ll want someone bigger and preferably someone playing in europe, stay away from him
 
Tommy1drop said:
He`s a big time charlie and obviously a trouble maker, even if we were to go in for him, I honestly cannot see him wanting to come to us, he`ll want someone bigger and preferably someone playing in europe, stay away from him
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Find that a bit amusing.

If there's doubt about what he actually signed then why shouldn't he get that clarified? It's not exactly like he's gone back to France to train with his old club and refused to play for them... He's actually doing it properly by taking it through the channels he needs to.

He played for them at the weekend so not sure he's downed tools because of it either.

What will be interesting to see is if they do find him to be ineligible, and he should be a free agent and all along he's been playing for them, whether that will result in other outcomes (e.g. fines, docked points etc).
 
Statto said:
Find that a bit amusing.

If there's doubt about what he actually signed then why shouldn't he get that clarified? It's not exactly like he's gone back to France to train with his old club and refused to play for them... He's actually doing it properly by taking it through the channels he needs to.

He played for them at the weekend so not sure he's downed tools because of it either.

What will be interesting to see is if they do find him to be ineligible, and he should be a free agent and all along he's been playing for them, whether that will result in other outcomes (e.g. fines, docked points etc).
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Reported that his representatives are working hard to find him a new club, and can reveal that Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur are among those approached about a potential move.
 
I haver read a few articles on this and nobody seems to be able to point out what Mateta's case is here? It just says he disputes the extension being enacted by Palace, but club-only extensions are pretty common in football contracts so what's the deal? I don't know if he is questioning something specific in this case or just the whole validity of extension options in clubs favour in general. If he wins on the latter (unlikely) it would be chaos akin to the Bosman ruling.

As far as I can remember, the only rules around extensions is they can't be longer than the original contract.
 
Master Yates said:
I haver read a few articles on this and nobody seems to be able to point out what Mateta's case is here? It just says he disputes the extension being enacted by Palace, but club-only extensions are pretty common in football contracts so what's the deal? I don't know if he is questioning something specific in this case or just the whole validity of extension options in clubs favour in general. If he wins on the latter (unlikely) it would be chaos akin to the Bosman ruling.

As far as I can remember, the only rules around extensions is they can't be longer than the original contract.
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BBC are saying:
The striker signed a four-and-half year contract when joining permanently in January 2022, in a deal that also included the option of a 12-month extension.

Palace activated that option in 2024, meaning Mateta's current deal is due to expire at the end of the season.

But the 29-year-old is claiming the final year of his contract - the optional extra year - should be void and it is understood Mateta's case was heard by an independent tribunal under the Premier League's rules.
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So whilst that doesn't say anywhere near what the exact legal issue is, it does look like he signed a deal which included an option of a 12 month extension which the club took up, meaning now he is under contract when without the extension it shouldn't be.

I would guess that it is probably one of two things:
- that the actual existence of the extension in the deal is being questioned
- that the terms of the extension are under dispute and that maybe the club felt they were eligible to trigger it and the player doesn't

I'm sure we will find out what happens with it...
 
Statto said:
BBC are saying:

So whilst that doesn't say anywhere near what the exact legal issue is, it does look like he signed a deal which included an option of a 12 month extension which the club took up, meaning now he is under contract when without the extension it shouldn't be.

I would guess that it is probably one of two things:
- that the actual existence of the extension in the deal is being questioned
- that the terms of the extension are under dispute and that maybe the club felt they were eligible to trigger it and the player doesn't

I'm sure we will find out what happens with it...
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The devil will be in the detail. They must feel he's got a case to take it this far. As with numerous agreements and rules in the past, people think they're watertight until they find out they aren't.
 
He wanted out last season, thought he’d be gone this summer and now is going to sulk to force a move. Palace should have seen this coming and sold him, they’ll now get even less of a transfer fee for him.

Very well run club that one.
 
Do we really want someone like this at the club?

Clearly in it for himself and prepared to screw all of us over to get what he wants?

It's different to those in it for themselves but happy to bring us along on the journey with them.
 
It's a very strange situation with JP. Everything that has come out in the media in the last few days, actually happened back in January, when he was trying to get his move to Milan. No idea why or how it's all of a sudden in the press.

Based on a few comments from Palace ITK's, he and Sarr are staying (It's too late in the window to sell Sarr and the offer from Galatasary is nowhere near our valuation). Mateta is apparently committed to see out his contract and leave on a free next summer, unless a similar offer to what we got in Jan (£25million) comes in from someone.

I doubt we will get an offer for him, unless Villa sell Watkins and get desperate towards the end of the window. He's 30 at the end of the season, has a dodgy knee and missed 20 big chances last season, some of which my Nan could have scored. He missed another sitter on Saturday when the game was 0-0 and we were on top. He seems to be very poorly advised by his agent, which means he is going to get a bumpy ride from the fans for the next few months, like he did in Jan when he went on strike to force the move to Milan.

The only positive for us if he does stay is that he will be doing all he can to impress, as being a free agent next summer he will be hoping for one big final contract.

Delap is the much better deal long term.

Edit - Moments after I posted this Villa made a bid according to Ornstein.
 
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