Jair Paula da Cunha Filho OF BRASIL!
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Ah, forget it, @tomasj has won the thread there.
In other news, I have two colleagues from São Paulo in Germany this week (one of whom, is a season ticket holder at Corinthians) and they were raving about young Jair.
Promising signs indeed, and don't you love it when a Forest man makes a big splash on international duty?
Bing Crosby's Head
Grenville Morris
Not too sure that whatever they do any player can make a big splash playing against the top international force that is Australia
Ever met any Brasilians Bing?Not too sure that whatever they do any player can make a big splash playing against the top international force that is Australia
I am constantly astonished by their support for the Selecao, regardless of who they are playing. Hell, a Brasil team could line up agains the Dog & Duck and win Four-Nil, and Brasilians would hail it as the second coming of Jesus (no, not that one).
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
I’ve always wondered how Brasil continues to have this conveyor belt of fabulous talent.
I appreciate they have a deep rooted devotion to football, and a massive population of incredibly poor young people growing up with dreams of escaping the favellas, but they must also have an impressive coaching resource from grass roots up.
However, the decades of producing stellar talent is unparalleled.
Carlton Cosmo
First Team Squad
Brazil’s football dominance isn't built in academy classrooms; it's forged on the streets.
At a young age, you don't need a rigid coach. You just need a ball and a few friends. While kids in England are often a bit more pampered and distracted by TVs, video games, and the internet, poorer kids in Brazil are spending all day playing barefoot on streets and beaches. That environment naturally builds insane touch, improvisation, and grit. By the time they get actual coaching, it’s usually from former players who know exactly how to guide that raw street instinct into professional excellence.
GregorRobertson
John Robertson
About time they won a World Cup then isn’t it? Or even got to a semifinal where they weren’t annihilated 7-1 at home. Brazil’s magnificence has been over-mythologised for at least twenty years now. They have some good players sure.
GregorRobertson
John Robertson
Would Jair Cunha get in the England squad, even if your dream manager was in charge? Doubtful. Murillo probably would though 
Carlton Cosmo
First Team Squad
The international setup failing doesn't mean the quality isn't there. Look at top European clubs right now, they're absolutely packed with Brazilian talent, probably more than ever. The drop-off with the national team is entirely down to managers, awful tactics, and poor player attitudes.
Keeping Neymar around on pure stardom rather than fitness or actual performance completely blocks younger, hungrier players who are desperate to prove themselves.
We'd probably all agree that Murillo hasn't been given a proper run for Brazil. We’ve seen exactly what Murillo can do at the absolute highest level for seasons now, and he's easily the better, more proven player than Jair Cunha. The talent pool is massive, but some international management decisions can seem odd , much like Thomas Tuchel seemingly overlooking Morgan Gibbs-White at every opportunity.
Berkshire Red
John Robertson
Brazil's stupid manager didn't even select their best striker (Joao Pedro) for the World Cup.
I can confidently say that as a team they would have done better with me in charge and Joao Pedro leading the line, than with the Italian twat.
I can confidently say that as a team they would have done better with me in charge and Joao Pedro leading the line, than with the Italian twat.
GregorRobertson
John Robertson
I agree there’s a lot of talent and a lot of depth. I just don’t think that the Brazilian players are any better, or have any more flair, than their European counterparts any more.
Master Yates
Stuart Pearce
Agreed - the days of Garrincha, Ronaldinho or even a younger Neymar doing something that nobody else could are long gone.
I mean, they still pick Douglas Luiz ffs. They will always produce good players because they are probably (Nigeria maybe?) the biggest population where football is the dominant sport. Lots of poverty too which undoubtedly produces good footballers (always has).
But a quick look at their squad lets you know they are nothing to write home about. The WC squad in particular was bizarre - taking a clutch of players who were long past their best. Their 'star' nowadays in Vinicius Jr, who is a pale shadow of previous names like Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Romario, Kaka etc
Having said that, Murillo would walk into every England squad going.
GregorRobertson
John Robertson
… except Tuchel’s probably
God, I used to love watching Ronaldinho. An absolute magician of a player.
He’s recently joined a Serie-C side as well, at the age of 46!
He’s recently joined a Serie-C side as well, at the age of 46!
Yoghurt Slice
Viv Anderson
Probably one of my 5 favourites. Hard to pick 5 tho innit.
Iniesta
Messi
Ronaldinho
Xavi
Maybe Cantona but I also loved watching Eden Hazard and Pirlo
Not allowing any Forest players of course
Wayde van Kneejerk
First Team Squad
Rivaldo - Ronaldo - Ronaldinho was an incredible front three. Has there ever been a better one? All Ballon d'Or winners.
Think Brazil 2002 are the only side to win every game at a World Cup without needing a shootout since Brazil 1970 (when there were fewer matches).
Think Brazil 2002 are the only side to win every game at a World Cup without needing a shootout since Brazil 1970 (when there were fewer matches).
shovelheadred
First Team Squad
Yeah, it's not really "just like watching Brazil" any more..... a week or two ago they were 10seconds away from being beaten 1-0 by the Socceroos in the emotion-charged legendary arena that is Queensland Country Bank Stadium, Townsville.
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Danga
Formerly JLingz
That is some question isn't it? If we are talking purely players I loved watching
R9
Ronaldinho
Riquelme
Are my top 3, after that you can probably list a good 20 or 30 players
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Yoghurt Slice
Viv Anderson
Yeah we had another thread earlier this year where that conversation started and I found it hard to name less than 25 players. So I just stuck with my absolute favourites in this thread. Need to shout out a few more now. Roy Keane, Thierry Henry, Del Piero, R9 (obvious ones), Nesta, Riquelme (good shout), Thuram (what a player)That is some question isn't it? If we are talking purely players I loved watching
R9
Ronaldinho
Riquelme
Are my top 3, after that you can probably list a good 20 or 30 players
....And a whole load of players who were never world class but I thought were quality and good to watch: Osman, Dembele, Rosicky, Damien Duff, Claudio Lopez, list could go on
tomasj
Geoff Thomas
I don't brag, but my amazing girlfriend said last year "Why Nottingham Forest no sign Rayan?".
I would say, from what little I know, Brazilians love football. My girlfriend says going for football, if you have a talent, is a way out of the poverty that a lot of Brazilians who are not pure whites experience. So, they play football. I also found that she is much better than me at getting a ball on target.
I would say, from what little I know, Brazilians love football. My girlfriend says going for football, if you have a talent, is a way out of the poverty that a lot of Brazilians who are not pure whites experience. So, they play football. I also found that she is much better than me at getting a ball on target.
tomasj
Geoff Thomas
My second favourite player ever. Even a little better than Nigel and Bohinen, technically. Watching a YouTube vid of him playing is pure joy. He does things no-one else ever did. I think every technically good player these players has watched Ronaldinho.
Zico is, however, my first love in football. One of the perks of having a Brazilian girlfriend is getting to meet him.
Frank Clark’s Tash
John Robertson
On the bench again today against... India!
Can someone remind me again why Murillo seemingly got 1 game to impres and then was immediately binned off, or am I just dreaming that?
Can someone remind me again why Murillo seemingly got 1 game to impres and then was immediately binned off, or am I just dreaming that?
No,, you are not dreaming.