Igor Jesus

Marco Pascolo

Viv Anderson
Looks like Edu bagged him


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Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
No secret Edu previously had a deal arranged for Arsenal that for whatever reason someone else didn't fancy. Got him all over this one - will be a good one to judge his eye for a player on too...
 

Notcher

Steve Chettle
Positive that Edu is making an impact already, working behind the scenes, when he’s not been officially announced as working for Forest yet.
He's so well respected yet it's mad he only played about 160 games in his entire career and scored less than 10 goals for an attacking midfielder

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Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
He's so well respected yet it's mad he only played about 160 games in his entire career and scored less than 10 goals for an attacking midfielder

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He's had a longer career in the strategic side than as a footballer which I guess is interesting too.
 

Don Pablo

First Team Squad
I'd actually be interested to see how we'd look with him playing as a 10 with MGW dropping into the midfield. I hope it's something Nuno takes a look at in preseason.

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Im struggling to understand how that works IF we play with limited posession as we have done all season, MGW spends most of his time in our final 3rd anyway, and comes to life when we break up play.

My wish is that we look to mix it up and have more of the ball, be a bit more proactive instead of sitting back so much. Our options are endless if we do in my opinion.

Does Nuno do that that though?
 

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
It takes a special kind of talent to come from another continent and make an impact in your first season in the Premier League.

I don't know anything about him to be honest so whilst I hope he is that, I would not be surprised if he (and his two colleagues) need some time to acclimatise so I'm not really expecting a huge amount this year.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
He's so well respected yet it's mad he only played about 160 games in his entire career and scored less than 10 goals for an attacking midfielder

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Yes, I was surprised to see how little he'd actually played as well, though I did like the look of him at Arsenal.

He clearly knows his stuff though as he was decent at Arsenal behind the scenes - they were starting to lose their way a bit in the end of the Wenger tenure (similar to Utd really) and didn't do quite as well with Emery even though he was decent (like Moyes) and Arteta has had them challenging for titles even if they haven't won any yet.
It takes a special kind of talent to come from another continent and make an impact in your first season in the Premier League.

I don't know anything about him to be honest so whilst I hope he is that, I would not be surprised if he (and his two colleagues) need some time to acclimatise so I'm not really expecting a huge amount this year.
That is true, but we have had Lodi and Felipe (who admittedly came from Spain) and then Murillo and Danilo settled in quickly, although the jury is still out on Miguel, it's only Scarpa we have had from there who wasn't successful, though we don't know how much of that was down to the crypto scam and how much of that he would normally have otherwise settled, as he seemed to be chill in the area with his skateboard and stuff before that all started.
 

Don Pablo

First Team Squad
It takes a special kind of talent to come from another continent and make an impact in your first season in the Premier League.

I don't know anything about him to be honest so whilst I hope he is that, I would not be surprised if he (and his two colleagues) need some time to acclimatise so I'm not really expecting a huge amount this year.
Great point.

Adding too many unkown quantities often fails, they need backing up with proven players at that level....which in fairness we do now have.....But theres a balance.

Often promoted teams buy 2 or 3 of the better championship players, when they would be better adding 2 or 3 players with actual experience at this level. See it every year.

I think we have enough experience now to swallow some of that, Id also like to see some top level experience in this window.
 
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Notcher

Steve Chettle
Im struggling to understand how that works IF we play with limited posession as we have done all season, MGW spends most of his time in our final 3rd anyway, and comes to life when we break up play.

My wish is that we look to mix it up and have more of the ball, be a bit more proactive instead of sitting back so much. Our options are endless if we do in my opinion.

Does Nuno do that that though?
This is where I think bringing in a top quality No6 (Douglas Luiz) is critical. Once we do that we can start to look at controlling the midfield possession better and in certain scenarios we could potentially see the setup I suggested.

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Don Pablo

First Team Squad
This is where I think bringing in a top quality No6 (Douglas Luiz) is critical. Once we do that we can start to look at controlling the midfield possession better and in certain scenarios we could potentially see the setup I suggested.

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Do you think thats the plan mate?

I genuinley hope so, Im not sure Nuno has that in mind, i know he went ultra defensive last season and the chemistry was there to counter....and lets be honest, it worked.

I just wonder how adaptable he is, or wether the formula worked so well last season that he went 'all in'.

What do you think?
 

jamferg

First Team Squad
This is where I think bringing in a top quality No6 (Douglas Luiz) is critical. Once we do that we can start to look at controlling the midfield possession better and in certain scenarios we could potentially see the setup I suggested.

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Agreed , our lack of possession ( stats wise ) was because we gave the ball away on transition so many times . We’d have hammered teams if we had kept the ball better . Mind you , I’d like someone lurking on the half way line on oppo corners etc . We often cleared successful and the ball was back in the box moments later .
 

YouReds43

Viv Anderson
The Igor Jesus deal seems separate to the other deals. As the contracts are signed. No talk of Jair signing contracts yet
 

CammoRed

A. Trialist
I think I’ll just wait and see what pans out, as second guessing is incredibly tedious. Forest have been brilliant at keeping the details of deals under wraps for ages now so there’s pretty much no point in trying to play at being Twitter detectives.
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
The Igor Jesus one is the only one I'm particularly bothered about, and he's a obviously gamble.

Cuibano looks to be a punt and Jair one for the future. I'm not saying I don't want the other two but do wonder about whether they are for here and/or now.
 

Colh

Steve Chettle
This is where I think bringing in a top quality No6 (Douglas Luiz) is critical. Once we do that we can start to look at controlling the midfield possession better and in certain scenarios we could potentially see the setup I suggested.

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Luiz or similar would transform us into a real threat


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Don Pablo

First Team Squad
Agreed , our lack of possession ( stats wise ) was because we gave the ball away on transition so many times . We’d have hammered teams if we had kept the ball better . Mind you , I’d like someone lurking on the half way line on oppo corners etc . We often cleared successful and the ball was back in the box moments later .
Thats quite simply not remotely true.

We had less posission because thats how Nuno set us up to play. Losing the ball contributed to around an absolute minimal amount of our posession stats.....As annoying as it was.
 

Notcher

Steve Chettle
Do you think thats the plan mate?

I genuinley hope so, Im not sure Nuno has that in mind, i know he went ultra defensive last season and the chemistry was there to counter....and lets be honest, it worked.

I just wonder how adaptable he is, or wether the formula worked so well last season that he went 'all in'.

What do you think?

I think so yes (admittedly some of that is me trying to manifest it) but Nuno is smart, he'll know it's not sustainable long term to play the way we have and that we need other ways to change things up.

Tbh I'd be extremely disappointed in him if he doesn't address this and load some alternative bullets into his chamber.

There's nothing wrong with having the same approach next year but I really want to see us adding quality and totally different alternatives if we need them.

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jamferg

First Team Squad
Thats quite simply not remotely true.

We had less posission because thats how Nuno set us up to play. Losing the ball contributed to around an absolute minimal amount of our posession stats.....As annoying as it was.
I know , which is why I stated stats wise .. we had ample opportunities to transition as per the Nuno plan and undoubtedly 100s of training hrs towards this .. but we only successfully achieved a few of these because of poor execution
 

Don Pablo

First Team Squad
I think so yes (admittedly some of that is me trying to manifest it) but Nuno is smart, he'll know it's not sustainable long term to play the way we have and that we need other ways to change things up.

Tbh I'd be extremely disappointed in him if he doesn't address this and load some alternative bullets into his chamber.

There's nothing wrong with having the same approach next year but I really want to see us adding quality and totally different alternatives if we need them.

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Agree on that 100% 👍
 

Don Pablo

First Team Squad
I know , which is why I stated stats wise .. we had ample opportunities to transition as per the Nuno plan and undoubtedly 100s of training hrs towards this .. but we only successfully achieved a few of these because of poor execution
I agree......we were terrible at times in transition, it boiled my piss weekly.......BUT

We set up to play with a very smash and grab attititude, sit deep and go, it worked.....but its not sustainable in my opinion.

If you set a team up to do that then it needs to be PERFECT, every time. Relying on a pefect pass whilst under pressure will always result in the sane mistakes.

Just my opinion dude.
 

Larry Lansbury

Geoff Thomas
Listened to Forest Forest focus earlier and Mark Sutherns who I enjoy. Saying Jesus movement, particularly when going deeper and/or wider could shift defences allowing MGW more space through middle creating more chances for him. Not criticism of Wood but he purposely stays central so CB are also rigidly behind him limited space for MGW. A commanding number 6 who bosses that middle ground s the key, as it will free up Anderson and MGW more.
 

Bog roll

Youth Team
I think so yes (admittedly some of that is me trying to manifest it) but Nuno is smart, he'll know it's not sustainable long term to play the way we have and that we need other ways to change things up.

Tbh I'd be extremely disappointed in him if he doesn't address this and load some alternative bullets into his chamber.

There's nothing wrong with having the same approach next year but I really want to see us adding quality and totally different alternatives if we need them.

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agreed, there were matches where we needed something different to score and couldn't find it. There was also matches that were there to be put to the sword, but we didn't do that either.
 
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