I don't understand what Billy's problem is

[zigga-zagga]

with the transfer acquisition panel.

I doubt very much that Alex Ferguson or Carlo Ancelotti can just go out and buy a player without reference to the board or the owner, so what's the difference.

We all have bosses and football managers have always had to ask the club board for finance so what's the difference in Billy's case. According to the Club, in January we went after every one of Billy's proposed signings at some time and were unable to sign any of them.

It's easy to sit here and say that we should have got Shorey, Bouma or the like at any cost but the simple fact is that either the players didn't want to come, were not available (as in Bouma's case) or were out of reach financially.

Billy is very fond of saying that everyone can see what kind of team we were before January and what kind of team we were after January but the simple fact is that after the West Brom defeat (Shorey's last game) he played Perch at left back 6 times away from home. In the same period he only picked his stongest pairing up front (Earnshaw and Blackstock) twice away from home. We were travelling to away matches with no idea what team he would be putting out - was he trying to prove a point?

Billy must accept that ND will never trust him with the purse strings, just the same as every other manager has had to accept it, he must make reasonable requests for players that we have a chance of getting and acknowledge that it is Nigel's money and he has a right to have someone look after it whom he trusts.

 

[Darth Pierre]

hes a cnut

 

[incapable hulk]

Whats billy said now?

 

[Hoax]

Yawn.

 

[Special Agent Dale Cooper]

 

[earthworm]

Lets hope the balls gets rolling on summer signings soon so we can stop caring about January 2010.

 

[TrickyTart]

He keeps demanding to know what donald has done with his trousers

 

[winnits]

I don't think he does have a problem at all, aside from the January frustrations which were annoying. He just takes pressure from his players, that's part of his job.

 

[TrickyTart]

By the by, the signings have started...Nobody notice raddy joining us? Seems like a decent starting place to me

 

[the mask of zorro]

I don't think he does have a problem at all, aside from the January frustrations which were annoying. He just takes pressure from his players, that's part of his job.

He was whingeing in the article on the back of the post again yesterday (of course that could be weeks old)

 

[incapable hulk]

He was whingeing in the article on the back of the post again yesterday (of course that could be weeks old)

Is that the same one thats on the website? If so it didnt sound like whingeing at all.

 

[gladiator]

Apart from the time scale involved in trying to recognize and sign players which always seem to take an age at Forest, our biggest problem is Billy himself; looking back on the season and moving forward from January it was almost as if his team selections especially away from home were his cripe, annoyance with the panel almost has if to say, f*** you! If you can’t back me then I’ll do everything in my power to stifle the team and its progress, a little over the top maybe, but you get the picture. I think Billy Davies is a very stubborn man who thinks very highly of himself an almost cock sure attitude, but his actions can and will have devastating effects on the team and its morel as has already been proved, I was left feeling very frustrated by his actions at times , not so much his comments, but his selections because at the end of the day I don’t really care what he says as long as the team are motivated and performing to their ability in the hope that tactically he has got it right.

Billy Davies is a good manager and I am glad he choose to stay with Nottingham forest, having said that it also wouldn’t of bothered me if he left either, I will fully back him and give him and the team my support through out the forthcoming season. :cheers:

 

[carlnw1975]

i think billys being made to pay for the major screw ups like platt and co have done, they were given money and blew it on a load of crap players.
billys got a good track record very experienced and knows what he`s on with in the game.
give him a budget to spend on players and not treating him like a kid and having to ask can i have this and that player

 

[the mask of zorro]

Is that the same one thats on the website? If so it didnt sound like whingeing at all.

"My job is only to advise and recommend"

"I have not discussed with the panel how many we require. That is not my decision"

"I don't do negotiations or the signings of players"

"I have not specifically advised that we need a left back, that is up to the committee"

"I merely reported to the committee with my recommendations and we will see"



Sounds like someone having a sulk to me, but that's my interpretation.

 

[incapable hulk]

See I dont get whingeing from that, just him answering the questions as asked

 

[earthworm]

Indeed, never underestimate the journo's ability to set up their interviewee for a soundbyte. I've seen Sky Sports interview somebody, with every question rigged towards getting a soundbyte. 10 minutes later, its "Up next, so and so tells us exclusively <insert rigged sound byte here>". They keep pressing the point and putting words in their mouth.

 

[Caveman Ninja]

hes a cnut

Says the guy named after Pierre Van Hooijdonk...

 

[the mask of zorro]

Indeed, never underestimate the journo's ability to set up their interviewee for a soundbyte. I've seen Sky Sports interview somebody, with every question rigged towards getting a soundbyte. 10 minutes later, its "Up next, so and so tells us exclusively <insert rigged sound byte here>". They keep pressing the point and putting words in their mouth.

I don't think Billy needs any help in that department.

 

[RRRREDUN]

The comments atributed to Billy, if true, are plain daft. If Billy hasn't stressed the need for a left back, who will? Also, if Billy doesn't say how many players he needs and in what positions, how will the so-called Transfer Acquisitions Committee do their job. What are their priorities? I'm thoroughly p**sed off with this whole saga. If we fail to sign players because they don't want to come, or their clubs don't want them to come, or we are quoted stupid money etc........ are we going to have to put up with the same c**p from Billy we've had since January. Just a word in your shell-like, Billy ....... 'Shut up'.

 

[Daniel]

Billy like Brian clough want total control over the club, for that I don't blame him and I would expect it. Nigel Doughty does not want this, it is his money and at present we are not in a position to accept this. I would imagine Mr Doughty has said along the lines of, Billy you get us promoted and I will give you x amount together with the full backing and control. You need to get us there first. Whilst we are outside the prem, you have to abide by my rules and deal with it!!!

 

[ForestRCohenUp]

I don't understand what Billy's problem is

- He's short
- He's Scottish
- He has no dress sense
- He has a stupid hair cut
- He talks in a stupid accent
- He's a Hun
- He used to manage the sheep
- His wife ain't a looker
- He talks about himself in the third person

I love the guy though. Lets face it Clough had his problems but you could forgive him everything! Calderwood was a very nice guy but lets face it he couldn't cut it as a manager.

 

[Rich]

with the transfer acquisition panel.

I doubt very much that Alex Ferguson or Carlo Ancelotti can just go out and buy a player without reference to the board or the owner, so what's the difference.

We all have bosses and football managers have always had to ask the club board for finance so what's the difference in Billy's case. According to the Club, in January we went after every one of Billy's proposed signings at some time and were unable to sign any of them.

It's easy to sit here and say that we should have got Shorey, Bouma or the like at any cost but the simple fact is that either the players didn't want to come, were not available (as in Bouma's case) or were out of reach financially.

Billy is very fond of saying that everyone can see what kind of team we were before January and what kind of team we were after January but the simple fact is that after the West Brom defeat (Shorey's last game) he played Perch at left back 6 times away from home. In the same period he only picked his stongest pairing up front (Earnshaw and Blackstock) twice away from home. We were travelling to away matches with no idea what team he would be putting out - was he trying to prove a point?

Billy must accept that ND will never trust him with the purse strings, just the same as every other manager has had to accept it, he must make reasonable requests for players that we have a chance of getting and acknowledge that it is Nigel's money and he has a right to have someone look after it whom he trusts.

Shorey's last game was Reading at home, wasn't it? Plus, he didn't play what you deem to be his strongest pairing up front at West Brom, he played Blackstock on his own.

 

[Castus]

He`s just not happy unless he`s got something to whine about. Most small people are like that

 

[zigga-zagga]

Shorey's last game was Reading at home, wasn't it? Plus, he didn't play what you deem to be his strongest pairing up front at West Brom, he played Blackstock on his own.

True his last game was at home to Reading but our home form wasn't the problem, everyone accepts that our away form cost us automatic promotion, so I was consequently only referring to away matches - sorry if this was not clear.

I never suggested that our strongest strikeforce did play at WBA, merely that they didn't play very much when our away form was dire, and logic would suggest that ALL possibilities should have been pursued rather than persisting with the likes of McGoldrick, Adebola and Garner.

 

[incapable hulk]

I never suggested that our strongest strikeforce did play at WBA, merely that they didn't play very much when our away form was dire, and logic would suggest that ALL possibilities should have been pursued rather than persisting with the likes of McGoldrick, Adebola and Garner.

Did they not start away at derby, which is where our away form turned to dire?
They also started in the away defeat at leicester, and in quite a few games both played at different times or together when one came on as a sub.
They made very little impact in those 2 games in particular, which was a complete contrast to how they were playing at home.

If you actually look back at our line ups for that poor away run, both blackstock and earnshaw featured far more than garner, and as much and if not more than dele and mcgoldrick.